COVID-19 (f/k/a "the Coronavirus")

[Galway Eagle]

More than 100 protesters rallied in downtown Raleigh to reopen North Carolina on Tuesday, describing Gov. Roy Cooper's stay-home order as an unconstitutional overreach that will kill the state's small businesses.

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article241999131.html?

Would be sort of ironic if they all got it from gathering in such a large group

[tower912]

In Michigan, the plan is to stay in their cars and drive around downtown Lansing honking their horns.

[Galway Eagle]

In Michigan, the plan is to stay in their cars and drive around downtown Lansing honking their horns.

I'd be torn between saving my eggs to eat and throwing them at the cars 🤔

[injuryBug]

The original goal was to close until end of April, while we got the infrastructure and resources in place to be able to do widespread testing and contact tracing.

We've been chasing that latter aspect forever, largely because of top down failures. We are still failing that test.

The 45 days more, should allow us to get there, unless we continue to have gross incompetence and malfeasance.

If we have all that in place, I believe #1 precludes #2.

In all honesty, much of the nation could have safely reopened now if we didn't have horrendous failures in establishing a robust testing and contact tracing platform. If we open, possibly even before May 1, which was announced as a goal in the press conference yesterday, then #2 almost assuredly happens.

I believe 2 is worse than 1.

I agree with this 100% but i think we will see it in stages and different depending on where you live

[GooooMarquette]

The original goal was to close until end of April, while we got the infrastructure and resources in place to be able to do widespread testing and contact tracing.

We've been chasing that latter aspect forever, largely because of top down failures. We are still failing that test.

The 45 days more, should allow us to get there, unless we continue to have gross incompetence and malfeasance.

If we have all that in place, I believe #1 precludes #2.

In all honesty, much of the nation could have safely reopened now if we didn't have horrendous failures in establishing a robust testing and contact tracing platform. If we open, possibly even before May 1, which was announced as a goal in the press conference yesterday, then #2 almost assuredly happens.

I believe 2 is worse than 1.

Agree completely. And it depends on CDC being allowed to do its thing.

If CDC has been allowed to do its thing  - taking the lead on both testing and contact tracing - from the start, we might already be reopened. Maybe we wouldn't even had to have closed. This despite the initial failure of one CDC test.

If CDC is pushed into overdrive NOW, we could very well reopen in a few weeks without having to worry about closing back down. Like you said #1 could preclude #2.

But if CDC is left on the back burner as merely a backstop to state and local public health officials, we might be opening and closing over and over until we have a vaccine.

[GooooMarquette]

In Michigan, the plan is to stay in their cars and drive around downtown Lansing honking their horns.

How is that different from any other day in Michigan?

[tower912]

Well played.   

[WarriorDad]

Yep. Too close to be just a coincidence....

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You will see it is an expression used by me often since I started here and has been part of my vernacular for as long as my memory goes back years and years.  It is how my worldly view is.

[GooooMarquette]

New York City's death toll soars past 10,000 in a revised virus count.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/us/coronavirus-updates.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage#link-7edf39e3

IMHO - with the lack of testing, we may still be undercounting the COVID deaths. Given the initial failures, we will never know for sure.

[GooooMarquette]

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You will see it is an expression used by me often since I started here and has been part of my vernacular for as long as my memory goes back years and years.  It is how my worldly view is.

Trump's quote was on August 15, 2017. Your profile indicates you registered here shortly thereafter - on November 25, 2017. So yeah - I believe you have used the phrase since you registered here.

Thanks for the roadmap.

[jficke13]

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Type in "both sides" and then warriordad as the user

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lol, serious man is serious.

[GooooMarquette]

lol, serious man is serious.

Bigly.

[forgetful]

New York City's death toll soars past 10,000 in a revised virus count.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/us/coronavirus-updates.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage#link-7edf39e3

IMHO - with the lack of testing, we may still be undercounting the COVID deaths. Given the initial failures, we will never know for sure.

China had a big one day jump for the same reason, a shift from requiring rt-PCR verification, to clinical diagnoses in illness and death counts.

[Hards Alumni]

https://theathletic.com/1746724/2020/04/14/mlb-team-employees-will-be-the-subjects-of-the-u-s-s-largest-covid-19-antibody-study/

[🏀]

If Putin is publically stating those problems, you gotta know they are much, much worse in actuality.

Could just be cover for those uncontrollable  fires dangerously close to the Chernobyl waste storage.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Could just be cover for those uncontrollable  fires dangerously close to the Chernobyl waste storage.

Wouldn't that be Ukraine's problem to sweep under the rug?

[jesmu84]

https://theathletic.com/1746724/2020/04/14/mlb-team-employees-will-be-the-subjects-of-the-u-s-s-largest-covid-19-antibody-study/

Ya. Just saw that.

Again, from what I know personally - from only 1 team - these tests are being used in ways slightly different. Though I suppose if the participants/results are from anonymous patients, it won't matter who actually uses them.

[jesmu84]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1220818115354923009?s=19

[GooooMarquette]

Covid-19: Mayo Clinic now has the capacity to process 10K antibody tests a day

https://www.medcitybeat.com/news-blog/2020/mayo-clinic-laboratories-capacity-10000-serologic-tests

Great for testing purposes, and also a nice step towards more widespread treatment with convalescent plasma.

[forgetful]

Agree completely. And it depends on CDC being allowed to do its thing.

If CDC has been allowed to do its thing  - taking the lead on both testing and contact tracing - from the start, we might already be reopened. Maybe we wouldn't even had to have closed. This despite the initial failure of one CDC test.

If CDC is pushed into overdrive NOW, we could very well reopen in a few weeks without having to worry about closing back down. Like you said #1 could preclude #2.

But if CDC is left on the back burner as merely a backstop to state and local public health officials, we might be opening and closing over and over until we have a vaccine.

Sadly, in today's press conference, we learned that will not be the case. We were told that testing is the State's responsibility, and any failures in testing are the fault of the governors and local entities.

[jesmu84]

Sadly, in today's press conference, we learned that will not be the case. We were told that testing is the State's responsibility, and any failures in testing are the fault of the governors and local entities.

Starve the beast

[wadesworld]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/administration/492813-trump-to-halt-who-funding-amid-review%3Famp

Lolllllllll. Look in the effing mirror dude. What an idiot.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/administration/492813-trump-to-halt-who-funding-amid-review%3Famp

Lolllllllll. Look in the effing mirror dude. What an idiot.

Just item #126 in his attempt to shift blame elsewhere, item #125 being pretending that states should be responsible for all testing.

"I take no responsibility at all."

[GB Warrior]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/administration/492813-trump-to-halt-who-funding-amid-review%3Famp

Lolllllllll. Look in the effing mirror dude. What an idiot.

Couldn't find any minorities to blame.

[Pakuni]

Sadly, in today's press conference, we learned that will not be the case. We were told that testing is the State's responsibility, and any failures in testing are the fault of the governors and local entities.

I have all the power!
Also, I have no power.