COVID-19 (f/k/a "the Coronavirus")

[Jockey]

So now he's a murderer and a moron who only got a little of what he deserves.

No, he is not a murderer, but his inaction and denial caused people to die.

Yes, he is a moron.

You didn't answer my question, though. What do you think of a guy who showed no concern over giving the virus to his pregnant girlfriend?

[Lennys Tap]

No, two different things.  Had it coming implies that he deserved it and that Mike desire for it to happen.

Desire and intent are important.  As a lawyer.

Potato, potahto.

When this threads sticks to the virus it's informative. Brings out the best in some very bright people.

When it devolves into politics, it turns ugly and hateful. Brings out the worst in all of us.

[Lennys Tap]

No, he is not a murderer, but his inaction and denial caused people to die.

Yes, he is a moron.

You didn't answer my question, though. What do you think of a guy who showed no concern over giving the virus to his pregnant girlfriend?

It's not a fair question as you don't know your accusation to be true.

Here's a question for you. What do You think of a guy who is so full of hatred he can't see straight? Who leads with his biases and gerrymanders the facts to fit them?

I'll leave this thread now. The political hijacking is just so over the top it's disgusting.

[The Sultan]

It's not a fair question as you don't know your accusation to be true.

Here's a question for you. What do You think of a guy who is so full of hatred he can't see straight? Who leads with his biases and gerrymanders the facts to fit them?

I'll leave this thread now. The political hijacking is just so over the top it's disgusting.

You realize you're stoking the fires right?

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

In my opinion this article shows the benefit of better testing and contact tracing.  It can be what saves rural counties. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/06/where-clusters-highest-density-coronavirus-cases-deaths-are-located

Mass taking action on contact tracing

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/491269-health-experts-call-for-roosevelt-style-programs-to-kill-virus-revive

[TSmith34, Inc.]

In my opinion this article shows the benefit of better testing and contact tracing.  It can be what saves rural counties. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/06/where-clusters-highest-density-coronavirus-cases-deaths-are-located

Mass taking action on contact tracing

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/491269-health-experts-call-for-roosevelt-style-programs-to-kill-virus-revive

Good stuff Frenns.

And appreciate your ability to stick to the topic.

[Jay Bee]

The way we get through this is testing.  I've been saying it for months now.  You test people and find out who has it and who doesn't, and who has already had it.  Those who have it stay the eff home.  Those who don't have it, self quarantine.  Those who have had it and recovered can go the eff back to work.  We continue on this path until we have a vaccine or another treatment arises.

What if a bunch of people get it again and again?

[#UnleashSean]

What if a bunch of people get it again and again?

So far we believe you become immune once you get it and survive. Unlike the flu this doesn't mutate nearly as much

[Eldon]

It's not a fair question as you don't know your accusation to be true.

Here's a question for you. What do You think of a guy who is so full of hatred he can't see straight? Who leads with his biases and gerrymanders the facts to fit them?

I'll leave this thread now. The political hijacking is just so over the top it's disgusting.

That's a great phrase.  I'm going to steal it.

[Elonsmusk]

Chatting with an army veteran about the anti malaria drug.  He said he was given it before shipping out to Afghanistan.   He, and many of his brethren experienced night terrors.   He said he would take his chances with the Covid rather than take that medicine again.

Side effects are a thing.

There are significant difference between chloroquine and hydroxycholorquine as it relates to side effects.  Both are anti-malarial drugs.  Hydroxy is virtually side-effect free, and there is evidence that it is helping stem the symptoms and reverse Corona effects.  Meds are written off-label all of the time.  The safety/efficacy profile of hydroxy is stellar.  There is virtually NO risk in taking it.

End of the day, if Trump didn't tout hydroxycholorquine as a potential game changer, EVERYONE would be hopeful that it can help. But because he did, many are actually HOPING that it doesn't help.  Illustrates how deep the disdain and hatred for Trump is among some.

There is hypocrisy from those ripping the President "He didn't act soon enough,"  to those same people making statements of "Issuing a travel ban from China is racist and xenophobic."  As for why we've had so many cases?  Duh.  Travel to the U.S. from around the globe exceeds that of any other country.  Of course we were going to be most impacted.

The politicizing of this tragedy is tragic and embarrassing.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

There are significant difference between chloroquine and hydroxycholorquine as it relates to side effects.  Both are anti-malarial drugs.  Hydroxy is virtually side-effect free, and there is evidence that it is helping stem the symptoms and reverse Corona effects.  Meds are written off-label all of the time.  The safety/efficacy profile of hydroxy is stellar.  There is virtually NO risk in taking it.

End of the day, if Trump didn't tout hydroxycholorquine as a potential game changer, EVERYONE would be hopeful that it can help. But because he did, many are actually HOPING that it doesn't help.  Illustrates how deep the disdain and hatred for Trump is among some.

There is hypocrisy from those ripping the President "He didn't act soon enough,"  to those same people making statements of "Issuing a travel ban from China is racist and xenophobic."  As for why we've had so many cases?  Duh.  Travel to the U.S. from around the globe exceeds that of any other country.  Of course we were going to be most impacted.

The politicizing of this tragedy is tragic and embarrassing.

Can everyone keep their political opinions to somewhere else.  The second half of this post is case in point. 

[ZiggysFryBoy]

So far we believe you become immune once you get it and survive. Unlike the flu this doesn't mutate nearly as much

Look into South Korea.

[tower912]

I hope it works.   I think you are a little optimistic that there are 'no side effects'.   It would be wonderful if it were a panacea, but the data so far (not anecdotes) says it may help some people.   
I am confident that a consistent treatment regimen will be worked out and that an effective vaccine will be fast tracked.   

Be safe.   Trust the process.

[The Sultan]

End of the day, if Trump didn't tout hydroxycholorquine as a potential game changer, EVERYONE would be hopeful that it can help. But because he did, many are actually HOPING that it doesn't help.  Illustrates how deep the disdain and hatred for Trump is among some.

Yeah that's not happening. Everyone hopes somethng that simple works, but the evidence suggests it doesn't.

There is hypocrisy from those ripping the President "He didn't act soon enough,"  to those same people making statements of "Issuing a travel ban from China is racist and xenophobic."  As for why we've had so many cases?  Duh.  Travel to the U.S. from around the globe exceeds that of any other country.  Of course we were going to be most impacted.

You are ignoring objective evidence. Yes, Trump did some good things and continues to do some good things, but his administration ignored this for too long despite being given warnings to the contrary.  Those delays were incredibly harmful.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Look into South Korea.

Do you have an article or study that points to reinfection?  I haven't seen anything in that regard since Japan I'm the early days. 

[Jay Bee]

So far we believe you become immune once you get it and survive. Unlike the flu this doesn't mutate nearly as much

Who is we? Mfrs can't even figure out if wearing a mask is wise.

There have been reports of people getting the virus a second time. Is it true? Is it rare? Don't know. But to dismiss the possibility and not consider how we'd deal with that variable is foolish.

#LastDays

[Jay Bee]

Do you have an article or study that points to reinfection?  I haven't seen anything in that regard since Japan I'm the early days.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8192015/amp/Fifty-one-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-positive-South-Korea.html

[Lighthouse 84]

I hope it works.   I think you are a little optimistic that there are 'no side effects'.   It would be wonderful if it were a panacea, but the data so far (not anecdotes) says it may help some people.   
I am confident that a consistent treatment regimen will be worked out and that an effective vaccine will be fast tracked.   

Be safe.   Trust Respect the process.

FIFY.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8192015/amp/Fifty-one-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-positive-South-Korea.html

Thanks.  This seemed similar to the Japan story.  Inconclusive but potentially worrisome. I hope there is a period of immunity with this.  Otherwise look out. 

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Heart damage as well as lung damage
https://khn.org/news/mysterious-heart-damage-not-just-lung-troubles-befalling-covid-19-patients/

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Thanks.  This seemed similar to the Japan story.  Inconclusive but potentially worrisome. I hope there is a period of immunity with this.  Otherwise look out.

I just read something that "the reinfection" is not reinfection just testing error.
I'd have to re-find the article.

[GooooMarquette]

I just read something that "the reinfection" is not reinfection just testing error.
I'd have to re-find the article.

How about this?

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-03-13/china-japan-korea-coronavirus-reinfection-test-positive

Scientists in and outside China agree that reinfection is a highly unlikely explanation for the patients who retest positive. They say testing errors are more likely to blame — either false negatives that resulted in patients being discharged too early, or false positives when they retested and were taken back into hospital.

[The Sultan]

If this is the MLB's best option, live sports in front of crowds are months away.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29004498/mlb-union-focused-plan-allow-season-start-early-arizona

[WarriorDad]

Let me start by saying that I obviously don't wish sickness on him or anybody else, and I hope he can beat this and have a full recovery.

Having said that ...

He is a science denier who just a couple weeks ago was bragging about shaking hands with COVID-19 patients and vowing to continue to do so.

It simply underscores how dangerous these leaders can be -- to themselves and to others -- when they devalue science and downplay deadly illnesses.

He is not a science denier.  This is a smear that the left uses in the same way the right smears us as anti capitalist.  You can do better than this.

Johnson, the science denier, hailed by academics and industry for science funding he pushed for. That isn't the mark of a man who denies science. https://www.ft.com/content/a9f55188-28d1-11ea-9305-4234e74b0ef3

[Hards Alumni]

Potato, potahto.

When this threads sticks to the virus it's informative. Brings out the best in some very bright people.

When it devolves into politics, it turns ugly and hateful. Brings out the worst in all of us.

Potato, apple.

But you can read into it how you'd like.

Also, we agree.