COVID-19 (f/k/a "the Coronavirus")

[shoothoops]

Umm well...that decision by Jerry Falwell Jr. to re-open Liberty University and have the kids on campus...well...uh...er...uh...it isn't going so swell.

Over a dozen kids already sick.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/29/us/politics/coronavirus-liberty-university-falwell.html#click=https://t.co/sglQgqzqo8

[wadesworld]

How anybody could ever ask for the leader of their country to handle this any differently is beyond me. Dumb libs. 

"He effed up our response so badly that there's really nothing left for him to do, so now the libs are just crying about what he says no matter what."

I know I'm just glad April's right around the corner. This thing is just going to disappear with that warmer weather, like a miracle.

[shoothoops]

How anybody could ever ask for the leader of their country to handle this any differently is beyond me. Dumb libs. 

"He effed up our response so badly that there's really nothing left for him to do, so now the libs are just crying about what he says no matter what."

I know I'm just glad April's right around the corner. This thing is just going to disappear with that warmer weather, like a miracle.

https://twitter.com/AustinKarp/status/1244420488711090184?s=19

[GooooMarquette]

I truthfully am too busy to spend time on here tonight, but sounds like everyone wishes he had a different style. Almost every criticism stems from his style, not the work being done. I will try and respond to the request of what I like about the job he is doing, but no time at the moment.

Then you might want to get back to us when you have more time to actually read and think about our comments, because they are about much more than just "style."

[pbiflyer]

Today's numbers show some hope. Cases were less than yesterday and deaths were way down.
A blip or part of a trend? Hopefully we start to see a flattening.

[wadesworld]

https://twitter.com/AustinKarp/status/1244420488711090184?s=19

Lol. That's hilarious.

I "tuned in" to his briefing tonight because I was watching the Duke/Butler National Title game and it cut into it right at the ending. I then tried to switch over to the Falcons/Patriots game, but it was on there too, so then I tried to switch to 30 for 30 on ABC but it had cut into that too. So I watched the first couple minutes and then switched to reruns of Shark Tank.

[forgetful]

Does anyone know where all the testing facilities in our neighborhood Walmart's, Walgreens, CVS, Target, and Rite-Aid's are?

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

I have heard from several non political friends that they religiously watch our governor daily briefings but can't stand to watch the president's because they can't rely on anything he says.

DJT got caught by surprise with this pandemic. Same would have happened to a Dem president. However those early reckless comments downplaying the severity of the threat cannot be walked back now without him admitting that they did not take this seriously enough to start. He's incapable of that. If he wants to impress the country he'd do that. We're a forgiving nation and I believe that would be a step toward rallying the country (along with stop the insults, step aside and let the experts dictate our response, etc.).

[Hards Alumni]

https://www.aei.org/research-products/report/national-coronavirus-response-a-road-map-to-reopening/

Great read.

[🏀]

https://www.aei.org/research-products/report/national-coronavirus-response-a-road-map-to-reopening/

Great read.

Excellent read, we're a long ways from phase 2 being triggered.

[BM1090]

Excellent read, we're a long ways from phase 2 being triggered.

Gottlieb also said he thinks that at the end of April some states will be able to start re-opening, meaning those states will hit their peak and start declining in two weeks.

Hoping that's accurate but mentally preparing otherwise.

[GooooMarquette]

https://www.aei.org/research-products/report/national-coronavirus-response-a-road-map-to-reopening/

Great read.

Great find. I was especially struck by this observation:

Trigger to Move to Phase II. To guard against the risk that large outbreaks or epidemic spread could reignite once we lift our initial efforts to "slow the spread," the trigger for a move to Phase II should be when a state reports a sustained reduction in cases for at least 14 days (i.e., one incubation period); and local hospitals are safely able to treat all patients requiring hospitalization without resorting to crisis standards of care; and the capacity exists in the state to test all people with COVID-19 symptoms, along with state capacity to conduct active monitoring of all confirmed cases and their contacts.

That's pretty significant - for any single state to begin to reopen schools, businesses and the like, at a minimum it should have at least 2 weeks of sustained decreases in new cases AND it needs to have the capacity to test everyone with symptoms AND it needs to have the capacity to conduct active monitoring of all confirmed cases and their contacts AND local hospitals have to have the capacity to safely treat all cases.

By those measures, we might be months away from the first states beginning to reopen.

[🏀]

Great find. I was especially struck by this observation:

Trigger to Move to Phase II. To guard against the risk that large outbreaks or epidemic spread could reignite once we lift our initial efforts to "slow the spread," the trigger for a move to Phase II should be when a state reports a sustained reduction in cases for at least 14 days (i.e., one incubation period); and local hospitals are safely able to treat all patients requiring hospitalization without resorting to crisis standards of care; and the capacity exists in the state to test all people with COVID-19 symptoms, along with state capacity to conduct active monitoring of all confirmed cases and their contacts.

That's pretty significant - for any single state to begin to reopen schools, businesses and the like, at a minimum it should have at least 2 weeks of sustained decreases in new cases AND it needs to have the capacity to test everyone with symptoms AND it needs to have the capacity to conduct active monitoring of all confirmed cases and their contacts AND local hospitals have to have the capacity to safely treat all cases.

By those measures, we might be months away from the first states beginning to reopen.

See Florida is smart, why shut down to jump through those hoops to open back up?

[MU82]

I'm not the least bit surprised you would use the NY Times as a source for anything.

I'm not the least bit surprised you would criticize something without reading it, would ignore that right-leaning media have said many of the same things, and would be upset that many folks prefer actual factual facts to alternative facts.

[MU82]

This just in:

Trump is conceding that there could be more than 100,000 deaths in the USA -- and that if that's all there are it will have been a job well done.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/29/politics/trump-deaths-coronavirus/index.html

It was only a month ago that he was insisting that the number of US cases "within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero" because "everything is really under control."

Now maybe he's finally listening, finally acknowledging reality? Maybe even he gets sick of lying?

Or maybe, as guru surely must think, he's simply "accepting mediocrity."

[Johnny B]

Umm well...that decision by Jerry Falwell Jr. to re-open Liberty University and have the kids on campus...well...uh...er...uh...it isn't going so swell.

Over a dozen kids already sick.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/29/us/politics/coronavirus-liberty-university-falwell.html#click=https://t.co/sglQgqzqo8

Absolute lunatic with blood on his hands

[Jockey]

Does anyone know where all the testing facilities in our neighborhood Walmart's, Walgreens, CVS, Target, and Rite-Aid's are?

You must not "want" to be tested.

[Jockey]

I truthfully am too busy to spend time on here tonight, but sounds like everyone wishes he had a different style. Almost every criticism stems from his style, not the work being done. I will try and respond to the request of what I like about the job he is doing, but no time at the moment.

Is there an alternate reality in which you reside?

[rocket surgeon]

In the span of a week, he's said we are "at war," open everything up by Easter because the cure can't be worse than the disease, and today he suggests social distancing last until April 30.

I mean, don't you see a problem here?

Yes. He should listen to experts. (No idea why you put that in quotes. Apparently you're a medical professional who doesn't believe in medical science. Which is weird.) And he should be a leader who puts aside the pettiness and leads.

You're a "smart" guy sully, that also qualifies you as an "expert" get it? 

I don't believe in medical science??  Who the *#*#@ are you to judge me on anything?  You know me but a very small microcosm of what appears here.  Some of my stuff more serious than others.  btw, Your dry psychological b.s doesn't fly with most here. 

   If you didn't understand my post, you are either being purposefully ignorant or doing your usual troll in order to get into some kind of sophisticated argument.  My post was my post; nothing more, nothing less

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

https://www.aei.org/research-products/report/national-coronavirus-response-a-road-map-to-reopening/

Great read.

This is one of the main studies discussed in the WaPo article I posted a few pages back.

[LON]

Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. Where is our president?  Oh, he needs to get out of the way...he needs to listen to the "experts", blah blah

There are many things he didn't say that they say he did say.  He's trying to be upbeat. Everyone needs to use a little critical thinking instead of laying on his every word. How many times do we need to hear, wash your hands, keep safe distances, stay at home if you can...?? 

The people here who do not like this admin, there is nothing, let me repeat, NOTHING he can say or do to change their minds about him.  So if you are in this category, get a squeeze ball, try yoga, meditate, and take care of yourselves cuz the president obviously is doing nothing more for you than p!ssing ya off anyway.

   Don't watch anymore news, ya know what to do-wash your hands, practice....when this all starts subsiding(hopefully soon) ya'll will know.

There is video proof of him saying things that there is later video proof of him denying saying those things. Stop being dumb.

[Bo Ryan's Massage Therapist]

This is something that amazes me.  There is proof after proof of his lies.  Yet his supporters turn a blind eye to it.  He lies so much I don't think he even remembers what he said.  This is a global crisis and the American people need leadership.   He claimed this was a hoax a month ago.  Last week he claimed Easter was the target date to reopen despite the experts all disagreeing.

As a health care worker who is a conservative, I am done.  Medical workers across the country have had inadequate PPE and tonight in his press conference he accused NYC health care workers of stealing masks.  Get us the damn PPE!  Stop worrying about governors not being appreciative enough.  We should have a coronavirus czar like we did with Ebola, but he cut funding thus eliminating that position

[The Sultan]

You're a "smart" guy sully, that also qualifies you as an "expert" get it? 

I don't believe in medical science??  Who the *#*#@ are you to judge me on anything?  You know me but a very small microcosm of what appears here.  Some of my stuff more serious than others.  btw, Your dry psychological b.s doesn't fly with most here. 

   If you didn't understand my post, you are either being purposefully ignorant or doing your usual troll in order to get into some kind of sophisticated argument.  My post was my post; nothing more, nothing less

Lol. The truth hurts huh?  Enough to actually cause you to use proper punctuation.

If you don't want me to judge you, don't say ignorant stuff.

[GB Warrior]

This just in:

Trump is conceding that there could be more than 100,000 deaths in the USA -- and that if that's all there are it will have been a job well done.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/29/politics/trump-deaths-coronavirus/index.html

It was only a month ago that he was insisting that the number of US cases "within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero" because "everything is really under control."

Now maybe he's finally listening, finally acknowledging reality? Maybe even he gets sick of lying?

Or maybe, as guru surely must think, he's simply "accepting mediocrity."

Nah, just some good ol' fashion

[injuryBug]

https://www.aei.org/research-products/report/national-coronavirus-response-a-road-map-to-reopening/

Great read.

Great read gives some hope with the planned/phased approach and answers my question as to how do we not just fall back to shut down once the curve is flattened