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"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

Coleman

Quote from: Pakuni on March 20, 2020, 12:20:28 PM
Military?
What's the army's role here?

Supply doctors
Construct field hospitals for overcrowding
Operate testing sites

Pakuni

Quote from: Coleman on March 20, 2020, 12:57:32 PM
Supply doctors
Construct field hospitals for overcrowding
Operate testing sites

Some of this already is occurring, and some is barred by law.
Not sure about constructing field hospitals.  Why would troops do that more effectively and efficiently than private sector firms?

Chili

Quote from: Pakuni on March 20, 2020, 01:13:18 PM
Some of this already is occurring, and some is barred by law.
Not sure about constructing field hospitals.  Why would troops do that more effectively and efficiently than private sector firms?

This is what the national guard does.
But I like to throw handfuls...

Jockey

Corp of Engineers

Army hospital ships

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Coleman on March 20, 2020, 12:57:32 PM
Supply doctors
Construct field hospitals for overcrowding
Operate testing sites

Empty dorms make great makeshift hospitals

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 20, 2020, 01:40:19 PM
Empty dorms make great makeshift hospitals
Except, right or wrong, I would imagine that would make many families extremely anxious about returning their children to the dorms afterwards.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: TSmith34 on March 20, 2020, 01:41:53 PM
Except, right or wrong, I would imagine that would make many families extremely anxious about returning their children to the dorms afterwards.

I mean, they'll be hospitals so when they're done, the cleaning will be better than anything a cleaning service does in the summer.

Plus even if nothing is done, the virus can't live long enough to be problematic.  Hope we don't have to use them for more than a week or two.

Pakuni

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 20, 2020, 01:40:19 PM
Empty dorms make great makeshift hospitals

I'd be surprised if a typical dorm room has the technological infrastructure to handle necessary medical equipment or the physical structure needed to safely quarantine patients.

The Sultan

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 20, 2020, 01:40:19 PM
Empty dorms make great makeshift hospitals

Lack of your own bathroom makes that a non starter for most of them.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

reinko

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 20, 2020, 01:47:47 PM
Lack of your own bathroom makes that a non starter for most of them.

Imagine some hotels could be looking for some business

The Sultan

Quote from: reinko on March 20, 2020, 01:59:22 PM
Imagine some hotels could be looking for some business

That has been brought up in New York.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Coleman

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 20, 2020, 01:47:47 PM
Lack of your own bathroom makes that a non starter for most of them.

A fair number of them have that though. Just at MU....Straz, Mashuda, Carpenter, Abbottsford

forgetful

Italy with almost 6k new cases today. Either they have increased testing, or people aren't following orders.

Possibly worst case, it is spreading through ventilation, so the quarantine isn't helping.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: forgetful on March 20, 2020, 02:11:44 PM
Italy with almost 6k new cases today. Either they have increased testing, or people aren't following orders.

Possibly worst case, it is spreading through ventilation, so the quarantine isn't helping.
The numbers in the pinned chart haven't changed for France, where based on the public's poo-pooing of the virus and refusing to self-quarantine, I would expect to follow a similar pattern to Italy.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: forgetful on March 20, 2020, 02:11:44 PM

Italy with almost 6k new cases today. Either they have increased testing, or people aren't following orders.

Possibly worst case, it is spreading through ventilation, so the quarantine isn't helping.



An American living in Rome was on CNN last night. She said that, despite orders to stay at home except for emergencies, it looks nearly like business as usual there. She even said the subway was still running. Sounds like Italians don't take kindly to people telling them what to do.

IMHO - one of the reasons for more successful containment in Asia than Europe is that Asians respect (or perhaps fear) authority, while Europeans don't. The US seems to be somewhere in the middle, with a lean toward the European attitude.

forgetful

Quote from: TSmith34 on March 20, 2020, 02:16:09 PM
The numbers in the pinned chart haven't changed for France, where based on the public's poo-pooing of the virus and refusing to self-quarantine, I would expect to follow a similar pattern to Italy.

About 1600 new cases in France today. Who knows about testing though. Based on the number of deaths, and serious/critical patients though, it would appear they have a ton of missed cases.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 20, 2020, 01:47:47 PM
Lack of your own bathroom makes that a non starter for most of them.

When people on quarantine and under observation, they can use communal bathrooms.  If everyone is sick, no one is sick!

Also, when the people start piling up in hallways hospitals will look for open places... even better if they are publicly owned.

GooooMarquette

I thought this might be of interest, given the persistent lack of testing capabilities for covid-19.

Here in Rochester, Mayo Clinic has ramped up its testing capabilities to about 4,000 specimens/day, and currently operated two drive-through collection sites. To move a step further, it is partnering with our local public health office and a smaller medical facility in town (Olmsted Medical Center) to pilot a "large-scale" collection facility at our county fairgrounds. The article below doesn't specify what they mean by "large-scale," but hopefully supply will finally begin to catch up with demand...at least around here.

https://www.medcitybeat.com/news-blog/2020/county-omc-mayo-clinic-joint-testing-site

Hards Alumni

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Game over, man!

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Jockey

Quote from: GooooMarquette on March 20, 2020, 03:25:38 PM
I thought this might be of interest, given the persistent lack of testing capabilities for covid-19.

Here in Rochester, Mayo Clinic has ramped up its testing capabilities to about 4,000 specimens/day, and currently operated two drive-through collection sites. To move a step further, it is partnering with our local public health office and a smaller medical facility in town (Olmsted Medical Center) to pilot a "large-scale" collection facility at our county fairgrounds. The article below doesn't specify what they mean by "large-scale," but hopefully supply will finally begin to catch up with demand...at least around here.

https://www.medcitybeat.com/news-blog/2020/county-omc-mayo-clinic-joint-testing-site

Great that they are testing that many. Do they also have enough labs to process that many tests?

Frenns Liquor Depot

Quote from: Jockey on March 20, 2020, 05:10:35 PM
Great that they are testing that many. Do they also have enough labs to process that many tests?

The answer is in the link.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: Jockey on March 20, 2020, 05:10:35 PM
Great that they are testing that many. Do they also have enough labs to process that many tests?


They can currently test 4,000/day, and are working on increasing capacity further.

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