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Cheeks

"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Shooter McGavin

Nice to hear.   Now let's win on Wednesday and get on a roll.  Go MU!

WhoaJoe2020


Cheeks

Quote from: WhoaJoe2020 on January 25, 2020, 10:49:21 PM
(See my comment in your other post).

Tournament is weeks away, this is what we have at the moment....and despite the bitching from the same group...we improved over the last few days.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

The Lens

On pace for a 7 seed, this is what Chris Otule died for!
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

🏀

Quote from: The Lens on January 26, 2020, 12:47:43 AM
On pace for a 7 seed, this is what Chris Otule died for!

But is it what Buzz ran away from?

lawdog77

Quote from: The Lens on January 26, 2020, 12:47:43 AM
On pace for a 7 seed, this is what Chris Otule died for!
I would bet once we found out the SPASHholes were quitting, most thought a 7 seed was a pipe dream.

Goose


The Lens

Quote from: lawdog77 on January 26, 2020, 09:18:21 AM
I would bet once we found out the SPASHholes were quitting, most thought a 7 seed was a pipe dream.

We have a first team All American, I was still expecting a bid. There's no miracle work being done. 
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

NickelDimer

Are you thinking what I'm thinking??! BANNER TIME!!!
No Finish Line

Cheeks

"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

fjm

25th.

25th out of 347.

After losing two solid contributors last year. After all the Scoopers saying "season is over!" "Hausers are gone! We are gonna suck!"  "This coach sucks".

We are 25th. Out of 347.

Y'all can keep whining. And keep posting in your negative threads. But I'm proud of the guys giving their all. 25th. Out of 347. And well in the NCAA tourney if season ended today.

Cheeks

#12
Quote from: fjm on January 26, 2020, 11:24:19 AM
25th.

25th out of 347.

After losing two solid contributors last year. After all the Scoopers saying "season is over!" "Hausers are gone! We are gonna suck!"  "This coach sucks".

We are 25th. Out of 347.

Y'all can keep whining. And keep posting in your negative threads. But I'm proud of the guys giving their all. 25th. Out of 347. And well in the NCAA tourney if season ended today.

25th out of 353  ;)
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: fjm on January 26, 2020, 11:24:19 AM
25th.

25th out of 347.

After losing two solid contributors last year. After all the Scoopers saying "season is over!" "Hausers are gone! We are gonna suck!"  "This coach sucks".

We are 25th. Out of 347.

Y'all can keep whining. And keep posting in your negative threads. But I'm proud of the guys giving their all. 25th. Out of 347. And well in the NCAA tourney if season ended today.

25th out of around 70, that's what we should be comparing ourselves to. The Power 5 plus the BE and Gonzaga. Over 250 or more of those teams we should always be ranked above(and some of those power 5 schools like NW, Rutgers, Washington State, etc.). I don't care that we're ahead of Drake, South Dakota and Grand Canyon.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

mileskishnish72

Is there a way to know where we would have been if we hadn't kicked that win away?

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 26, 2020, 01:10:26 PM
25th out of around 70, that's what we should be comparing ourselves to. The Power 5 plus the BE and Gonzaga. Over 250 or more of those teams we should always be ranked above(and some of those power 5 schools like NW, Rutgers, Washington State, etc.). I don't care that we're ahead of Drake, South Dakota and Grand Canyon.

Do you care that Dayton, SD State, Houston and BYU are ahead of MU?

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 26, 2020, 01:10:26 PM
25th out of around 70, that's what we should be comparing ourselves to. The Power 5 plus the BE and Gonzaga. Over 250 or more of those teams we should always be ranked above(and some of those power 5 schools like NW, Rutgers, Washington State, etc.). I don't care that we're ahead of Drake, South Dakota and Grand Canyon.

Though exactly the same.  I'd maybe say around 100, but I won't quibble at your 70 number.

Cheeks

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 26, 2020, 01:10:26 PM
25th out of around 70, that's what we should be comparing ourselves to. The Power 5 plus the BE and Gonzaga. Over 250 or more of those teams we should always be ranked above(and some of those power 5 schools like NW, Rutgers, Washington State, etc.). I don't care that we're ahead of Drake, South Dakota and Grand Canyon.

I don't care about those either....But we are ahead of Virginia, Michigan, Stanford, Wisconsin, Auburn, LSU, Florida, Indiana, Cincinnati, UCLA, USC, Syracuse, Washington,  Oklahoma, Mississippi State (remember we should hire Ben Howland), Texas (we should hire Shaka Smart), UConn (we should hire Hurley), Arizona State (we should hire that Hurley) Oklahoma State, Tennessee, ....I could go on and on.

Do people realize we are 3 spots behind Kentucky right now? Two spots behind Chris Beard and Texas Tech? 
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: mileskishnish72 on January 26, 2020, 01:11:01 PM
Is there a way to know where we would have been if we hadn't kicked that win away?

Unfortunately no. NCAA is keeping the NET formula deep in the Indianapolis vault. To my knowledge, no one has reverse engineered it yet. Which is surprising to me.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Cheeks

#19
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 26, 2020, 01:13:58 PM
Do you care that Dayton, SD State, Houston and BYU are ahead of MU?

Do you care that Michigan, Virginia, Auburn, Tennessee, Florida, UCLA, etc are behind us?

Goes both ways.

MU is ahead of BYU, Houston in the Net Rankings
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 26, 2020, 01:13:58 PM
Do you care that Dayton, SD State, Houston and BYU are ahead of MU?

Yes. We should be a better program every year.  This board consistently denigrates Dayton and the idea they could join the BE, so should they be better than us?

BYU lost to San Francisco last night and is 4-3 in the WCC.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

Cheeks

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 26, 2020, 01:21:03 PM
Yes. We should be a better program every year.  This board consistently denigrates Dayton and the idea they could join the BE, so should they be better than us?

BYU lost to San Francisco last night and is 4-3 in the WCC.


EVERY YEAR.  Please.  Not how college sports works and you should know that better than 99.9% here. 
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 26, 2020, 01:21:03 PM
Yes. We should be a better program every year.  This board consistently denigrates Dayton and the idea they could join the BE, so should they be better than us?

BYU lost to San Francisco last night and is 4-3 in the WCC.

I know...but Pomeroy still has BYU ahead of MU today.

I asked because you included the Power 6 plus the Zags. I think that the best thing about CBB versus other major leagues is that these non-Power 6 schools can and do get to a Final 4. Loyola, George Mason, VCU, Indiana State, Memphis, UNLV, etc.  The Nevadas, San Diego States, St. Mary's, Dayton, Memphis have also been competing at a high level a long time.

Cheeks

MU 25th in NCAA rankings
BYU 29th
Houston 34th


Ken Pom is great, he isn't the end all be all.  Lots of other systems.  For example, I agree with Billy that Purdue isn't 20th...but you can't cherry-pick USC and use Ken Pom to say it's ok here, but not ok there.   NCAA Net has Purdue at 36th, which is probably a better ranking.  They have USC 40th, probably also a better ranking.

No system is full proof, off course.


"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

WhoaJoe2020

Quote from: Cheeks on January 26, 2020, 03:16:28 PM
MU 25th in NCAA rankings
BYU 29th
Houston 34th


Ken Pom is great, he isn't the end all be all.  Lots of other systems.  For example, I agree with Billy that Purdue isn't 20th...but you can't cherry-pick USC and use Ken Pom to say it's ok here, but not ok there.   NCAA Net has Purdue at 36th, which is probably a better ranking.  They have USC 40th, probably also a better ranking.

No system is full proof, off course.

He isn't the be all end all.

No system is fool proof.

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