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Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 23, 2020, 02:29:55 PM
No one said you should be impressed with him.  Perhaps more sympathetic as you don't know the whole story, what his frustrations may be stemming from, or how unhappy he may have been.


I agree with this, and hold no ill will toward Ed. That said, it isn't inconceivable that he might come to regret his decision. Maybe Jayce or Theo get hurt, and he regrets the chance to finish his career on an up note. Or maybe we make a nice run, and he regrets not being part of a team that plays well into March. Or maybe as he matures, he regrets not being there for his teammates just in case.

None of us can know, and maybe the above scenarios are what JJJJJ was talking about.

Or maybe he is good with his decision for good, and that's fine too.

In any event, good luck to Ed.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 23, 2020, 04:14:32 PM
Fighting an addiction and quitting on a group of a guys you've committed to play with and for midseason as a senior are vastly different situations.

Again, wish Ed well.  Hope he's able to make some money playing a game.

Was just joking around
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ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 23, 2020, 12:42:20 PM
He wasn't happy with his role and he left.  It's not much of a secret.  If he truly was unhappy, I doubt he will have much regret.  He will undoubtedly play somewhere overseas if he wants, and how he ended his career at MU will have no bearing on that.

Wrong.



real chili 83

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 23, 2020, 02:27:06 PM
I thought it was pretty fair.  I wished him well.  I said I hoped he had stayed.

The dude quit on his teammates, which is the real unfortunate bit here.  Per the basketball program, he's staying in school, so its not like he's leaving because he has to move to deal with a family matter, or some other terrible circumstance.  He quit because he was butthurt about his playing time. 

I wish Ed well, but you'll never see me be impressed with quitter.

#facepalm

Scoop Snoop

I'm not going to second guess the guy.

Good luck Ed.
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ZiggysFryBoy

The first MU release said it all.   Personal reasons, leave it at that.

Cheeks

I hate seeing someone quit mid season. Shame.  Graduating, the alumni networking, etc...I don't get it.  Wishing him the best in his future endeavors
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MU82

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Quote from: MU82 on January 24, 2020, 05:40:34 AM
The sun'll come out to Morrow ...

Morrow was someone you could go to Combat with.

rocket surgeon

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Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 24, 2020, 07:26:13 AM
Morrow was someone you could go to Combat with.


Ohhh boy, now you're aging us doc....would that be morrows named Vic for $500 Alex
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JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

CountryRoads

If MU continues to win and play better, should/would the Selection Committee give them a better seed than they otherwise would have had Ed stayed? It seems to work the other way around when guys come back from injuries, suspensions, etc. Ed's poor play in the Providence game was a major reason for that loss.

Heisenberg

FWIW, this is from someone connected to the program ....

Ed quit the team knowing full well he was ending his basketball career.  Not only at the college level, he is a fifth-year senior and could not transfer, but also any chance to play professionally after MU.

He is staying at MU to finish his degree.

Ed burned out of the game and lost passion/interest in playing.  That was the driver of his decision. This is why he was losing playing time.  He was losing his motivation to work hard enough to earn it back.

So instead of pouting on the bench, he made a mature decision to move on to the next stage of his life.  He felt this spring his time was better spent on academics so he can graduate.


I understand this will not sit well here because the answer always has to be it is Wojo's fault, and the answer must be it means the program is a disaster.

#UnleashSean

Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on January 27, 2020, 07:09:55 AM
FWIW, this is from someone connected to the program ....

Ed quit the team knowing full well he was ending his basketball career.  Not only at the college level, he is a fifth-year senior and could not transfer, but also any chance to play professionally after MU.

He is staying at MU to finish his degree.

Ed burned out of the game and lost passion/interest in playing.  That was the driver of his decision. This is why he was losing playing time.  He was losing his motivation to work hard enough to earn it back.

So instead of pouting on the bench, he made a mature decision to move on to the next stage of his life.  He felt this spring his time was better spent on academics so he can graduate.


I understand this will not sit well here because the answer always has to be it is Wojo's fault, and the answer must be it means the program is a disaster.

Hey look scoop didn't know the full story and went on a rampage of the guy. What a surprise

rocket surgeon

That is precisely why I try to wait for THE REST OF THE STORY...and there is probably more.  Ed was an upstanding guy and represents MU well.  Additionally,  is true, it will show Ed to be a very bright and pragmatic guy. Good luck to him
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

The Sultan

Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on January 27, 2020, 07:09:55 AM
FWIW, this is from someone connected to the program ....

Ed quit the team knowing full well he was ending his basketball career.  Not only at the college level, he is a fifth-year senior and could not transfer, but also any chance to play professionally after MU.

He is staying at MU to finish his degree.

Ed burned out of the game and lost passion/interest in playing.  That was the driver of his decision. This is why he was losing playing time.  He was losing his motivation to work hard enough to earn it back.

So instead of pouting on the bench, he made a mature decision to move on to the next stage of his life.  He felt this spring his time was better spent on academics so he can graduate.


I understand this will not sit well here because the answer always has to be it is Wojo's fault, and the answer must be it means the program is a disaster.


Nothing is black and white.  Lots of shades of gray. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on January 27, 2020, 07:09:55 AM
FWIW, this is from someone connected to the program ....

Ed quit the team knowing full well he was ending his basketball career.  Not only at the college level, he is a fifth-year senior and could not transfer, but also any chance to play professionally after MU.

He is staying at MU to finish his degree.

Ed burned out of the game and lost passion/interest in playing.  That was the driver of his decision. This is why he was losing playing time.  He was losing his motivation to work hard enough to earn it back.

So instead of pouting on the bench, he made a mature decision to move on to the next stage of his life.  He felt this spring his time was better spent on academics so he can graduate.


I understand this will not sit well here because the answer always has to be it is Wojo's fault, and the answer must be it means the program is a disaster.

If true, I wouldn't be surprised by this. Over the years, many many many cases of athletes burning out, for whatever reason. This narrative makes a lot of sense, too.

We lose to Madison without Ed in 2018, and he was an important contributor in many other games. Seemed like a decent guy who also was well-liked by teammates. I wish him well in whatever he chooses to do with his life.

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Nukem2

Quote from: MU82 on January 27, 2020, 09:06:01 AM
If true, I wouldn't be surprised by this. Over the years, many many many cases of athletes burning out, for whatever reason. This narrative makes a lot of sense, too.

We lose to Madison without Ed in 2018, and he was an important contributor in many other games. Seemed like a decent guy who also was well-liked by teammates. I wish him well in whatever he chooses to do with his life.

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Loose Cannon

Quote from: #UnleashJayce on January 27, 2020, 07:31:11 AM
Hey look scoop didn't know the full story and went on a rampage of the guy. What a surprise

Yep Like those reporters Racing to the phones in the Black and White movies. 
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Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on January 27, 2020, 07:09:55 AM
Ed quit the team knowing full well he was ending his basketball career.  Not only at the college level, he is a fifth-year senior and could not transfer, but also any chance to play professionally after MU.


Wait, he's choosing to not pursue a professional career, or his decision to leave the program mid-season will make it impossible for him to play professionally after he graduates?

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