Kevin Willard...views of him from Scoop Intelligentsia Past

[Golden Avalanche]

MU beat Villanova 10 days ago, so not sure on the bad days' comments....am I too dense to get it?  I think 10 days ago was a very good day for Wojo, I suspect 9 days ago was, too.

I don't believe I purposely ignored anything, but by all means, explain your comments if you wish.

End of the day, fans are emotional and love the 2nd string QB...love the coach they don't have...love the date they aren't with.  We have been epic here of burying coaches who turned out just fine, or anointing coaches that crashed and burned.  We are really good at having a list of criteria for another coach that looks eerily the same for the coach we cannot wait to throw into the ocean.   

At the end of the day, simply changing for the sake of change without identifying who is going to be the replacement is a fool's errand that I'm quite sure the accomplished folks in the athletic department know.

Thank you for admitting you purposely ignored my point to misrepresent what was written about Willard.

[We R Final Four]

dude is seriously unstable.

Chico's?  I would say more fragile than unstable.

[WhoaJoe2020]

So MU's AD has a list of unrealistic coaches? I guess you don't think very highly of MU's AD.

I believe MU's AD and athletic department are very good and true professionals that know what they are doing. Sorry you disagree.

I'm sure they have a list of potential targets. Whoever they are, they all need to meet several criteria to be realistic.
Availability, a quality individual,, a good fit for the MU system, the prospect of long term stability and success , and a pedigree from a program with high level success.

Damn...... I just described Wojo

[Cheeks]

Thank you for admitting you purposely ignored my point to misrepresent what was written about Willard.

I didn't then and I am admitting no such thing.   "I don't believe I purposely ignored anything, but by all means, explain your comments if you wish."   If you wish to explain yourself further I am all ears, but rest assured I am admitting so such thing. 

[WhiteTrash]

I'm sure they have a list of potential targets. Whoever they are, they all need to meet several criteria to be realistic.
Availability, a quality individual,, a good fit for the MU system, the prospect of long term stability and success , and a pedigree from a program with high level success.

Damn...... I just described Wojo

LOL! This is what my kids call a 'bad dad joke'.

As a dad who tells bad jokes, I liked it. Well played sir.

[WhoaJoe2020]

LOL! This is what my kids call a 'bad dad joke'.

As a dad who tells bad jokes, I liked it. Well played sir.

I try.....

[Cheeks]

As a reminder, Kevin Willard went to the following his first five seasons at Seton Hall

ZERO NCAA Tournaments
ONE NIT Tournament


They currently have a three game lead in the Big East conference

[dajudge]

This. Huggins is a good coach too - much better than Willard - but I would not want him at MU.

Amen

[Dr. Blackheart]

As a reminder, Kevin Willard went to the following his first five seasons at Seton Hall

ZERO NCAA Tournaments
ONE NIT Tournament


They currently have a three game lead in the Big East conference

Preceeded by BoGo, Louis Orr, Tommy Ammacker and George Blaney. Keep trying.

Wojo is 1-21 versus Pomeroy Top 25 teams. In the next three games, he is likely to play three more. Let’s talk then. I expect 2-1. Win tomorrow, and MU is tied for 2nd.   

Go Warriors!

[cheebs09]

Willard has 1 NCAA win in 9 years. He’s having a great year but it’s not like beyond those years he’s been killing it. His resume reads like Crean without the Final Four.

[Cheeks]

Willard has 1 NCAA win in 9 years. He’s having a great year but it’s not like beyond those years he’s been killing it. His resume reads like Crean without the Final Four.

My point is that the knuckleheads wanted him fired, just as the knuckleheads wanted Wright fired, and on and on.

[Cheeks]

Preceeded by BoGo, Louis Orr, Tommy Ammacker and George Blaney. Keep trying.

Wojo is 1-21 versus Pomeroy Top 25 teams. In the next three games, he is likely to play three more. Let’s talk then. I expect 2-1. Win tomorrow, and MU is tied for 2nd.   

Go Warriors!

That stat....source please. 

Louis Orr took the Pirates to the NCAA tournament 2 of his last three years...including his final year.  Willard took over for Gonzalez who went to the NIT his final year.

I know you keep wanting to compare Wojo to Crean and Buzz, but those two got to recruit different players than Wojo is allowed to...so why do you and others keep making the false comparisons?

[Its DJOver]

CBB is cyclical.  SH has a likely AA this year, so they are going to be good.  They will drop off next year when he leaves.  The thing I would question about Willard (which I think you can say about every Beast coach not named Wright) is their consistency.  He pulled Whitehead, Delgado, Carrington, Rodriguez, and Powell in a very good 3 year stretch.  Their current Freshman class is a pair of 3*s, their incoming class is a pair of 3*s.  You need to be able to consistently recruit well to stay on top.  They'll still have Cale, Mamu, Reynolds and Rhoden next year, so they won't drop of a cliff, but that recruiting needs an uptick in order to keep this current level of success.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

That stat....source please. 

I posted this earlier but cannot find it.  During Wojo's career, he has gone something like 2-23 against teams who ended the year KenPom top 25.  Villanova when they were #1 and Wisconsin when we had Henry.

[Dr. Blackheart]

That stat....source please. 

Louis Orr took the Pirates to the NCAA tournament 2 of his last three years...including his final year.  Willard took over for Gonzalez who went to the NIT his final year.

I know you keep wanting to compare Wojo to Crean and Buzz, but those two got to recruit different players than Wojo is allowed to...so why do you and others keep making the false comparisons?

Paint Touches is the source. Let’s reverse this the next three games. Hall with a tough win today but their first half schedule was weak.  Let’s win this conference.

And, please tell me you aren’t favorably comparing Wojo to BoGo and Louie Orr? 

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=59840.msg1199707#msg1199707

[wadesworld]

I posted this earlier but cannot find it.  During Wojo's career, he has gone something like 2-23 against teams who ended the year KenPom top 25.  Villanova when they were #1 and Wisconsin when we had Henry.

I didn’t go through all of it, but we beat Wisconsin at home last year and they finished 16th in Kenpom, Buffalo at home last year and they finished 22nd in KenPom, and Louisville on a neutral and they finished 23rd in Kenpom. So maybe all years prior to that is accurate but I don’t think that record is correct.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

OK, then that must have been the Wisconsin victory.  Thanks for the correction.

Put it this way, it wasn't very good and paled to Buzz's record in comparison.

[MU82]

So all the great wins against ranked teams don't count because the opponents didn't end the year as KenPom top-25 teams?

Ridiculous.

[wadesworld]

OK, then that must have been the Wisconsin victory.  Thanks for the correction.

Put it this way, it wasn't very good and paled to Buzz's record in comparison.

Just edited it. Also beat Buffalo and Louisville who finished top 25 in Kenpom last year. So had more than 2 top 25 KenPom wins...just last year.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Just edited it. Also beat Buffalo and Louisville who finished top 25 in Kenpom last year. So had more than 2 top 25 KenPom wins...just last year.

Sorry.  Paint Touches story with 1-21 were away from home games vs. Top 25.  Buffalo and Whiskey were home games.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Just edited it. Also beat Buffalo and Louisville who finished top 25 in Kenpom last year. So had more than 2 top 25 KenPom wins...just last year.

Cool. If I care enough to find the post I will. Clearly my memory is wrong about the details.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

So all the great wins against ranked teams don't count because the opponents didn't end the year as KenPom top-25 teams?

Ridiculous.

It was a metric applied consistently and was easy to research.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Here it is. 2-24 against teams that finished the year Kenpom top 20.

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=59610.msg1187706#msg1187706

[BM1090]

Here it is. 2-24 against teams that finished the year Kenpom top 20.

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=59610.msg1187706#msg1187706

Stat is still inaccurate. 2 last year (UW/KSU) and Nova 2017. Those might be the only 3 but I didn't look further than 2019

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Stat is still inaccurate. 2 last year (UW/KSU) and Nova 2017. Those might be the only 3 but I didn't look further than 2019

Thanks for the correction.