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Re: Bracketology 2019-2020
« Reply #400 on: February 24, 2020, 01:20:11 PM »
Every time a Big East team wins a tournament game, it's big money to every conference team.  It elevates the entire conference.  It helps Marquette in so many ways.

Having said that, the thing that helps Marquette THE MOST is for Marquette to win tournament games.  The best possible outcome for Marquette would be for Marquette to win the NCAA tournament, with 3 other Big East teams making the Final Four.

I know, seems obvious.  But some of you are too spiteful and/or short-sighted to see it.
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« Reply #401 on: February 24, 2020, 01:21:03 PM »
I will always root for all 11 Big East schools!  (I include UConn.) There is a war from many that it's the Power 5 and everyone else doesn't matter. More teams and wins, equals more money. I'm sure why most don't buy into that.
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« Reply #402 on: February 24, 2020, 01:22:06 PM »
Yep. Anyone here think Gonzaga gives a sh!t about how many teams their conference gets in? They’re too busy trying to win games in the tournament themselves to worry about stuff like that.

You can do both. Gonzaga does care.
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« Reply #403 on: February 24, 2020, 01:28:47 PM »
I will always root for all 11 Big East schools!  (I include UConn.) There is a war from many that it's the Power 5 and everyone else doesn't matter. More teams and wins, equals more money. I'm sure why most don't buy into that.

What exactly does more money equate to for our program? A new head coach? New facility? We already have a top 10 program in terms of dollars spent on basketball. Not sure what more money is going to do for us.

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« Reply #404 on: February 24, 2020, 01:33:25 PM »
What exactly does more money equate to for our program? A new head coach? New facility? We already have a top 10 program in terms of dollars spent on basketball. Not sure what more money is going to do for us.

The Big East, AAC and other group of 5's are super behind the SEC, Big Ten and the rest of the Power 5 in the TV money. More money for Marquette keeps are other coaches here at Marquette. Upgrades and builds buildings, etc. Always getting more money is always a good thing.
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« Reply #405 on: February 24, 2020, 01:35:48 PM »
What exactly does more money equate to for our program? A new head coach? New facility? We already have a top 10 program in terms of dollars spent on basketball. Not sure what more money is going to do for us.

Those numbers are deceiving, though. Bear in mind that at any football school, the basketball program is going to use the same facilities in terms of weight and fitness training that the football team uses, but those dollars will more likely be earmarked to football. We spend well, but the idea that we are outspending the bulk of the high-major football programs isn't exactly accurate.

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« Reply #406 on: February 24, 2020, 01:52:11 PM »
What exactly does more money equate to for our program? A new head coach? New facility? We already have a top 10 program in terms of dollars spent on basketball. Not sure what more money is going to do for us.
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« Reply #407 on: February 24, 2020, 02:41:39 PM »
Also, more revenues from the tournament results in less pressure to raise ticket prices.    ;D
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« Reply #408 on: February 24, 2020, 02:47:21 PM »
Yep. Anyone here think Gonzaga gives a sh!t about how many teams their conference gets in? They’re too busy trying to win games in the tournament themselves to worry about stuff like that.
I don't worry about it, but I root for the other Big East teams once the tournament starts.  I'd rather see the conference my team is in do well.  Not much more to it than that.  When you're watching all these tournament games, you gotta have a reason to root for somebody, and conference affiliation is as good a reason as any.  Plus, other than the day we are playing them, in general I like the other teams in our conference.
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« Reply #409 on: February 24, 2020, 02:48:58 PM »
I don't worry about it, but I root for the other Big East teams once the tournament starts.  I'd rather see the conference my team is in do well.  Not much more to it than that.  When you're watching all these tournament games, you gotta have a reason to root for somebody, and conference affiliation is as good a reason as any.  Plus, other than the day we are playing them, in general I like the other teams in our conference.
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« Reply #410 on: February 24, 2020, 03:46:18 PM »
Those numbers are deceiving, though. Bear in mind that at any football school, the basketball program is going to use the same facilities in terms of weight and fitness training that the football team uses, but those dollars will more likely be earmarked to football. We spend well, but the idea that we are outspending the bulk of the high-major football programs isn't exactly accurate.

we're also paying rent at Fiserv to add to that expense.
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« Reply #411 on: February 24, 2020, 05:02:43 PM »
I will never understand this from our fanbase. Who cares if we get 70% in if Marquette doesn't get a win. The two years Nova won the championship there were members here acting like MU got a share of it or something. In the end the fans don't care about revenue sharing they care about wins and its been 7 years since we have had one in the NCAA. I could care less if Providence wins a game let alone if they get in the field.

I am not attacking the person I quoted either. I have seen at least 20 people on these boards say the same thing.


My first interest - by a longshot - is seeing MU win in March. It isn’t even close.

But still, the performance of rest of the conference does matter to MU. There is obviously the money factor that you mentioned - and that matters, because it helps pay the bills. Beyond that, the better conference performance means a better conference reputation. And that can translate into anything from a slightly better shot at getting into the dance if we’re on the bubble, to getting into better preseason tournaments, and even a foot in the door for better recruits.

Most of those are long-term intangible benefits...but they might explain why most of the blue-blood programs are in the most successful conferences.

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« Reply #412 on: February 24, 2020, 05:36:47 PM »
Lenny

I want MU to be in the camp of not giving a sh!t who gets in from the BE. I have never understood that thinking. Granted, when you are in the position MU is in, it helps to have highly competitive conference. Top teams are not hoping that their conference gets 6-7 teams in, they are more concerned about their fate.

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« Reply #413 on: February 24, 2020, 05:55:42 PM »
Lenny

I want MU to be in the camp of not giving a sh!t who gets in from the BE. I have never understood that thinking. Granted, when you are in the position MU is in, it helps to have highly competitive conference. Top teams are not hoping that their conference gets 6-7 teams in, they are more concerned about their fate.

Goose, I'll disagree slightly here.  It's important due to the payout. The gap between the Power Five and the rest of the conferences continues to grow thanks to TV and football revenue. To get a couple extra million thanks to 6-7 extra teams making the tourney is something we need to keep pace.
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« Reply #415 on: February 26, 2020, 11:58:15 AM »
Last 7 on Lunardi's seed list...right behind...Wisconsin.

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« Reply #416 on: February 26, 2020, 01:30:04 PM »
Yep. Anyone here think Gonzaga gives a sh!t about how many teams their conference gets in? They’re too busy trying to win games in the tournament themselves to worry about stuff like that.

They don't care since the distribution is heavily tilted in their favor, but other schools in the WCC do.
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« Reply #417 on: February 26, 2020, 01:34:27 PM »
Last 7 on Lunardi's seed list...right behind...Wisconsin.

https://twitter.com/ESPNLunardi/status/1232725525506019328/photo/1
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« Reply #418 on: March 01, 2020, 03:50:08 PM »
Getting slightly nervous, we're dropping seed lines quick
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« Reply #419 on: March 01, 2020, 04:00:04 PM »
Getting slightly nervous, we're dropping seed lines quick

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« Reply #420 on: March 01, 2020, 04:23:56 PM »
Getting slightly nervous, we're dropping seed lines quick
Yeah I keep reading we’re a stone cold lock and maybe we are. Many here know more than I do about bracket projections. But if we lose our next two  and our first BET game are we really a lock?
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« Reply #421 on: March 01, 2020, 04:44:55 PM »
Yeah I keep reading we’re a stone cold lock and maybe we are. Many here know more than I do about bracket projections. But if we lose our next two  and our first BET game are we really a lock?

To answer this question, I'm 98% certain we would get in even with an 0-3 finish. So yeah we're a borderline lock. Lock as in 100%? One more win and there's a 0% chance we get left out.

If we do lose 3 in a row and get left out it would still be a huge snub. But I really wouldn't complain too much.

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« Reply #422 on: March 01, 2020, 04:54:54 PM »
To answer this question, I'm 98% certain we would get in even with an 0-3 finish. So yeah we're a borderline lock. Lock as in 100%? One more win and there's a 0% chance we get left out.

If we do lose 3 in a row and get left out it would still be a huge snub. But I really wouldn't complain too much.
Thanks for the info. That’s how I feel. If we somehow lost the last 3 making it 7 of our last 8 I’d have a tough time arguing we deserve to be in.
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« Reply #423 on: March 01, 2020, 08:15:52 PM »
Thanks for the info. That’s how I feel. If we somehow lost the last 3 making it 7 of our last 8 I’d have a tough time arguing we deserve to be in.

If we go 0-3, we're still a stone cold lock.  And probably still a 10 seed, which is basically the same as a 7 seed. 

Getting slightly nervous, we're dropping seed lines quick

There is zero reason to be concerned about MU's chances of making the tournament.

Plenty of reasons to be concerned about losing 4/5, tho.
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« Reply #424 on: March 01, 2020, 08:37:22 PM »
If we go 0-3, we're still a stone cold lock.  And probably still a 10 seed, which is basically the same as a 7 seed. 

There is zero reason to be concerned about MU's chances of making the tournament.

Plenty of reasons to be concerned about losing 4/5, tho.
There's no way we are on the 4/5 lines without winning the BET at this point, unfortunately.

 

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