Holding (Fi) serv at home, with a big Koby beef steak.

[Jockey]

Great team win. I was very surprised, but definitely enjoying the victory. They should poise and played nice D today. In addition, my feeling on Theo are well noted, but have to say he played very well today.

Goose,

I think we agree on Theo so it was nice to see him play well today. We saw what happened when Morrow was on the floor, so we're gonna need to take the bad with the good from Theo.

[WhoaJoe2020]

I think you just mentioned the largest number of excuses for NOT succeeding in Scoop history.

Actually,  I just listed all the variables and challenges that Wojo has already successfully overcome. No excuses needed. You obviously chose to overlook all the successes I pointed out.

[MU82]

Goose,

I think we agree on Theo so it was nice to see him play well today. We saw what happened when Morrow was on the floor, so we're gonna need to take the bad with the good from Theo.

Morrow had a great block and a couple of nice hustle plays in his limited minutes. Neither he nor Theo nor Jayce are scorers (understatement of the year).

One of Wojo's strengths is his allocation of playing time at the 5. Has an excellent feel for it, and did again today.

Theo was outstanding today. He got nearly all the minutes, as he should have. All the more impressive in that he apparently is playing hurt.

[WhoaJoe2020]

Forgot about this, I don't know who here was at the game...but I can tell you during introductions, Wojo was boo'd. It was pretty audible inside the arena. I was actually quite shocked when I heard that.

Well there's a good poll subject.
How many scoopers at the game boo'd
Wojo.

[Shooter McGavin]

Mentioned here:
https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=59625.msg1188522#msg1188522

And if you read through - apparently The Lens was one of them (Or okay with it).

That is really a shame.  Really poor decision by our fans to boo if true. 

[Shooter McGavin]

Great team win. I was very surprised, but definitely enjoying the victory. They should poise and played nice D today. In addition, my feeling on Theo are well noted, but have to say he played very well today.

Glad you're enjoying the victory and appreciating the hard work the coaches and these young men put in on a daily basis.  It's a much better look than tearing the players down as not being talented enough for the Big East or ripping the coaches for being incapable of getting the players to perform.

[f/k/a humanlung]

Actually,  I just listed all the variables and challenges that Wojo has already successfully overcome. No excuses needed. You obviously chose to overlook all the successes I pointed out.

No he faces the same challenges as most coaches not at a blue blood program. 

[skianth16]

2.  No, seriously, some of you guys are idiots and cheapen the Marquette diploma.     Teams lose conference road games.   Wojo isn't getting fired.   Grow the F up. 

If basketball isn't a roller coaster for you, then you may not be a normal fan. If your first reaction after a big win is more of an "I told you so" to internet strangers, then you may care more about your online persona than about MU basketball. If you're more excited to gloat here, and that results in more posts than the average game, then you're more interested in getting attention for yourself than you are in MU basketball. If that's your thought process, you need to grow up too. That's not just for the guys who get upset after losses.

All that said, this was an awesome game. It's maddening to see this team exhibit the kinds of highs and lows we saw this week, but if that's what this team is, then we'll all just need to buckle up and prepare for a crazy conference season. In the long run, I assume we'll have more highs than lows, and I look forward to that. But if the frustrations can be offset by the wins, then sign me up. I'm ready for the ride.

[withoutbias]

If basketball isn't a roller coaster for you, then you may not be a normal fan. If your first reaction after a big win is more of an "I told you so" to internet strangers, then you may care more about your online persona than about MU basketball. If you're more excited to gloat here, and that results in more posts than the average game, then you're more interested in getting attention for yourself than you are in MU basketball. If that's your thought process, you need to grow up too. That's not just for the guys who get upset after losses.

All that said, this was an awesome game. It's maddening to see this team exhibit the kinds of highs and lows we saw this week, but if that's what this team is, then we'll all just need to buckle up and prepare for a crazy conference season. In the long run, I assume we'll have more highs than lows, and I look forward to that. But if the frustrations can be offset by the wins, then sign me up. I'm ready for the ride.

You don't seem ready for the ride.

[skianth16]

You don't seem ready for the ride.

I'm more excited for the basketball than the internet. I'd say that's a good thing.

[withoutbias]

I'm more excited for the basketball than the internet. I'd say that's a good thing.

I'd say those who are excited to get on Scoop after a win are excited because...well, because MU won and presumably played well, and they like MU being successful. Those who are excited to get on Scoop after a loss seem to be the ones who are more excited about being right than anything, unless they're lying and are just trolls and not actually MU fans.

Your anger seems misplaced.

[Shooter McGavin]

All that said, this was an awesome game. It's maddening to see this team exhibit the kinds of highs and lows we saw this week, but if that's what this team is, then we'll all just need to buckle up and prepare for a crazy conference season. In the long run, I assume we'll have more highs than lows, and I look forward to that. But if the frustrations can be offset by the wins, then sign me up. I'm ready for the ride.

This paragraph is what the majority of people were saying before the season and during the non conference season ("this conference season is going to be a "war" or "blood bath" to name a couple descriptions).  So all the teeth gnashing over the first road loss is mystifying.  We are not good enough to be a final four team but we are good enough to go to the NCAA and we should refrain from excessively ripping players (always) and coaches on a game by game basis.  At least not make sweeping generalizations about how bad or good they are based on one or two games. 

[Cheeks]

EVERY thread I look at, chico is arguing with one or more posters.

For the love of God, quit feeding this creep. He does not want to discuss - he just wants to argue. And you guys give him the fuel he cries for.

Ignore him until he goes back on his meds. This board is becoming almost unreadable. It doesn't have to be this way!!!!!!

EVERY?  Good Lord you are such a priss

[Eldon]

EVERY thread I look at, chico is arguing with one or more posters.

For the love of God, quit feeding this creep. He does not want to discuss - he just wants to argue. And you guys give him the fuel he cries for.

Ignore him until he goes back on his meds. This board is becoming almost unreadable. It doesn't have to be this way!!!!!!

Bro, you have got to be the angriest Canadian ever. 

[WhoaJoe2020]

This paragraph is what the majority of people were saying before the season and during the non conference season ("this conference season is going to be a "war" or "blood bath" to name a couple descriptions).  So all the teeth bashing over the first road loss is mystifying.  We are not good enough to be a final four team but we are good enough to go to the NCAA and we should refrain from excessively ripping players (always) and coaches on a game by game basis.  At least not make sweeping generalizations about how bad or good they are based on one or two games.

Think you meant teeth gnashing but yeah, most pragmatic fans realize what conference Marquette plays in and that Marquette needs to bring its A game against every opponent. Most also realize that on some nights even their A game won't be enough. Some nights their B game will be enough and some nights it won't. Each game of the season is like a round in a boxing match and you hope that the team wins enough rounds to make it to the tournament. The key for fans is to be in the teams corner encouraging them to fight. After a good round caution them not to get too cocky. After a bad round tell them to keep their chins up. Hopefully they make it to the final bell.

[HutchwasClutch]

7.   He is much improved, but I still flinch every time Cain does anything other than shoot the open 3, or take two dribbles with a pull up.    Every time he dribbles in space, every time he tries to feed the post.....  eewwww.   

Agree completely except your opening remark for this point. His decision making is terrible generally. A guy now in second semester of his junior season should not look so befuddled out there and making so many bad decisions when he has to improvise.  He looked like a deer in headlights on that two on one bust out in second half.  His first possession entering the game, he throws an inexplicably bad cross court pass that was easy pickings

He's talented and athletic, but still not showing a good feel for the game and I'm concerned he'll never get there. He should be way beyond a lot of these mistakes by now

[MU82]

Agree completely except your opening remark for this point. His decision making is terrible generally. A guy now in second semester of his junior season should not look so befuddled out there and making so many bad decisions when he has to improvise.  He looked like a deer in headlights on that two on one bust out in second half.  His first possession entering the game, he throws an inexplicably bad cross court pass that was easy pickings

He's talented and athletic, but still not showing a good feel for the game and I'm concerned he'll never get there. He should be way beyond a lot of these mistakes by now

I actually think his energy and generally improved play has helped us to numerous wins this season. He didn't play well yesterday, and that was reflected in his playing time. Hopefully, he will be more effective in most future games.

Yes, it would be nice if a second-semester junior were more mistake-free than he is, but he is who he is. Jamal is a role player with some fine attributes but also many flaws to his game; those who expected more from him haven't been paying attention.

[Its DJOver]

Might have missed it mentioned, but only 10 TOs is a very good number for this team.  I do, however, think there were a couple of times when someone (Markus in particular) would drive out of control, and get bailed out by a foul.  TO prevention should still be a point of emphasis moving forward.

[HutchwasClutch]

I actually think his energy and generally improved play has helped us to numerous wins this season. He didn't play well yesterday, and that was reflected in his playing time. Hopefully, he will be more effective in most future games.

Yes, it would be nice if a second-semester junior were more mistake-free than he is, but he is who he is. Jamal is a role player with some fine attributes but also many flaws to his game; those who expected more from him haven't been paying attention.

These should be correctable flaws to a large degree though. I don't know if it's on him, coaching, or some of both, but his raw ability suggests he should be more than just written off as a role player.  Most players grow beyond these mistakes.

[tower912]

If basketball isn't a roller coaster for you, then you may not be a normal fan. If your first reaction after a big win is more of an "I told you so" to internet strangers, then you may care more about your online persona than about MU basketball. If you're more excited to gloat here, and that results in more posts than the average game, then you're more interested in getting attention for yourself than you are in MU basketball. If that's your thought process, you need to grow up too. That's not just for the guys who get upset after losses.

All that said, this was an awesome game. It's maddening to see this team exhibit the kinds of highs and lows we saw this week, but if that's what this team is, then we'll all just need to buckle up and prepare for a crazy conference season. In the long run, I assume we'll have more highs than lows, and I look forward to that. But if the frustrations can be offset by the wins, then sign me up. I'm ready for the ride.

Basketball is always a rollercoaster for almost every program.   There are big wins and big losses every season for almost every team.   Losing one's mind over a conference road loss is stupid.  It is like losing one's mind over snow in January in the upper Midwest.  Both are inevitable.   Shovel it and move on.

[MU82]

We have played 3 road games this season against teams that are a combined 23-1 in their home arenas (Creighton 10-0; Wisconsin 7-0; Kansas State 6-1) -- and we were the team that put up that 1 (at K-State).

We are 2-1 on neutral courts, with our loss coming to the No. 5 team in the nation at time,.

We are 8-0 at home, with an average margin of victory of 10.5 points against the best two teams we have played at Fiserv -- an up-and-down Purdue team that was ranked going into the season, has crushed Virginia but has had a couple of bad losses; and a Villanova team that was ranked No. 10 in the nation when we played them.

But yes, we are drastically underperforming everybody's expectations.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Forgot about this, I don't know who here was at the game...but I can tell you during introductions, Wojo was boo'd. It was pretty audible inside the arena. I was actually quite shocked when I heard that.

I was there and absolutely did not hear this.

[MU82]

I was there and absolutely did not hear this.

I was there, sitting up in Sec 212, and did hear some boos, and I an a few other fans discussed it briefly. So it did happen.

But the idea that so many were booing that it reflected the feelings of a "majority" of MU fans, as some have claimed, is dopey.

[tower912]

We have played 3 road games this season against teams that are a combined 23-1 in their home arenas (Creighton 10-0; Wisconsin 7-0; Kansas State 6-1) -- and we were the team that put up that 1 (at K-State).

We are 2-1 on neutral courts, with our loss coming to the No. 5 team in the nation at time,.

We are 8-0 at home, with an average margin of victory of 10.5 points against the best two teams we have played at Fiserv -- an up-and-down Purdue team that was ranked going into the season, has crushed Virginia but has had a couple of bad losses; and a Villanova team that was ranked No. 10 in the nation when we played them.

But yes, we are drastically underperforming everybody's expectations.

Not much of a rollercoaster.   Yawn.

[The Sultan]

Finally saw the game.  When we were rolling, we played with pace and got the ball inside.  When we weren't, the ball was stagnant and we settled.  No Jayce, which was fine.  Effort and intensity was very high.