MU Coaching Candidates

[MU82]

I didn't watch one second of today's Loyola-Drake rematch because I was busy watching our fine game. I did just read a couple of articles about the game, a 51-50 OT victory for Drake.

So ... Moser's team lost to a team that was inferior (according to most Scoopers who had commented during the first one), managed only 50 points even though it went into OT, blew a double-digit lead, and lost to a team that was missing its best player? And afterward, there was nearly a brawl, with Moser blaming Drake's coaches and players?

Fun!

[CountryRoads]

Moser recently turned down a 2+ million offer from St. John's. We would have to pay out the ass to get him here. I have no knowledge on how deep MU's pockets are, but are we able to get into the $3 million range for a coach? Anything less and I feel we are really rolling the dice anyway.

[4everwarriors]

I have no interest in Moser. Given Nads comments, the Drake dude is intriguing, hey?

[brewcity77]

Moser recently turned down a 2+ million offer from St. John's. We would have to pay out the ass to get him here. I have no knowledge on how deep MU's pockets are, but are we able to get into the $3 million range for a coach? Anything less and I feel we are really rolling the dice anyway.

I think there was more to Moser turning down St John's than the salary.

[GoldenWarrior11]

FWIW, the Coaching Changes Twitter account (run by a number of anonymous assistant D1 coaches over the years, and has been very accurate in predicting hirings/firings) is not only predicting Wojo gone in a few weeks but that TC is definitely in play as a new hire.

I would not be shocked at all by a homecoming.

[ATL MU Warrior]

FWIW, the Coaching Changes Twitter account (run by a number of anonymous assistant D1 coaches over the years, and has been very accurate in predicting hirings/firings) is not only predicting Wojo gone in a few weeks but that TC is definitely in play as a new hire.

I would not be shocked at all by a homecoming.

This would be very entertaining.

[brewcity77]

FWIW, the Coaching Changes Twitter account (run by a number of anonymous assistant D1 coaches over the years, and has been very accurate in predicting hirings/firings) is not only predicting Wojo gone in a few weeks but that TC is definitely in play as a new hire.

I would not be shocked at all by a homecoming.

Boy, I wonder who gave them that hot scoop... 

[Viper]

Possibly MU would be interested in TC part II, but has there been any sentiment of interest FROM TC?

[cheebs09]

FWIW, the Coaching Changes Twitter account (run by a number of anonymous assistant D1 coaches over the years, and has been very accurate in predicting hirings/firings) is not only predicting Wojo gone in a few weeks but that TC is definitely in play as a new hire.

I would not be shocked at all by a homecoming.

I would not be a fan of that. Crean's Indiana record is definitely better than I remember it, but I'd rather take a chance on a mid-major up and comer.

Weren't there some rumors of Cords wanting to hire O'Neill again last time around?

[brewcity77]

Possibly MU would be interested in TC part II, but has there been any sentiment of interest FROM TC?

Who do you think fed them that rumor?

[GoldenWarrior11]

I would not be a fan of that. Crean's Indiana record is definitely better than I remember it, but I'd rather take a chance on a mid-major up and comer.

Weren't there some rumors of Cords wanting to hire O'Neill again last time around?

The problem is that the school, with where MUBB is at right now, cannot afford investing in another uncertainty.  Wojo, at present, has led to an MU setback that has not been seen in decades.  MU needs a proven experienced coach that will have them competing for tournament bids annually.  With regards to TC, he still has great fondness for MU and his time here.  IMO, the IU experience greatly humbled him.  TC is also bringing in elite level recruits to UGA, something unheard of in Athens, especially since it is not a basketball-first program.

Again, not saying it will definitely happen, but I would definitely envision mutual interest there.  And Crean would bring immediate visibility and marketability for fans and alums after this disaster Wojo has overseen.

[4everwarriors]

Crean sucks

[cheebs09]

The problem is that the school, with where MUBB is at right now, cannot afford investing in another uncertainty.  Wojo, at present, has led to an MU setback that has not been seen in decades.  MU needs a proven experienced coach that will have them competing for tournament bids annually.  With regards to TC, he still has great fondness for MU and his time here.  IMO, the IU experience greatly humbled him.  TC is also bringing in elite level recruits to UGA, something unheard of in Athens, especially since it is not a basketball-first program.

Again, not saying it will definitely happen, but I would definitely envision mutual interest there.  And Crean would bring immediate visibility and marketability for fans and alums after this disaster Wojo has overseen.

I definitely get that. But I don't know that bringing Crean back exactly puts us on a safer track. I was new to Scoop when Crean left, but I seem to remember a lot of people weren't exactly bummed that he left. Look at the jokes made when DePaul rehired an old coach. I don't think Crean excites the casual fan.

Also, I think it was pretty established that Crean hit a ceiling at MU. Maybe he's grown and I know he's recruiting at a fairy high level at Georgia.

I also think he'd walk on his hands and knees from Athens for the job.

[Silent Verbal]

MU hiring Crean back would literally be the same scenario as DePaul rehiring Leaito.  It would be a freaking joke.

[GoldenWarrior11]

I definitely get that. But I don't know that bringing Crean back exactly puts us on a safer track. I was new to Scoop when Crean left, but I seem to remember a lot of people weren't exactly bummed that he left. Look at the jokes made when DePaul rehired an old coach. I don't think Crean excites the casual fan.

Also, I think it was pretty established that Crean hit a ceiling at MU. Maybe he's grown and I know he's recruiting at a fairy high level at Georgia.

I also think he'd walk on his hands and knees from Athens for the job.

No doubt MU was spurned when Crean left for IU.  Crean also did not handle his exit with the players well either.  Crean, for several years, was booed in the opening video montage as well.  However, Crean made the NCAAT five of eight years, and never finished lower than fifth in a loaded 16-team Big East.  Crean arguably hit his ceiling at MU the first go-around, but it is also arguable that he might very well be a better coach since he left.  He did still manage to get IU to a #1 ranking, two B1G Championships and three S16s (while failing to meet expectations at IU).  MU needs someone, and who know if it is TC, to right this ship, provide stability and get us back on track towards competing for NCAAT appearances annually, with an occasional second weekend (or beyond) showing.  Wojo has failed to deliver that expectation, and a coach like TC has that on his resume.

Regarding Dave Leitao: DL left DePaul after three years for Virginia, and got fired within four seasons.  He six years between head coaching gigs, and - if not for DePaul - Leitao likely is not a head coach anywhere else (instead being a lead assistant).  Crean was at MU for nearly a decade and was very much rooted in our school and community, much like he was at IU.  In addition, DL was hired at DePaul because of certain parameters and expectations the (now former) AD gave all candidates (DL was more than willing to do that).  I would argue that the cases are not at all similar.  Their resumes are vastly different.

[Mr. Nielsen]

MU hiring Crean back would literally be the same scenario as DePaul rehiring Leaito.  It would be a freaking joke.

I would take a joke of a Final Four.

[WhiteTrash]

MU hiring Crean back would literally be the same scenario as DePaul rehiring Leaito.  It would be a freaking joke.

"literally the same"? Did I miss Leatio's rebuild and Final Four his first time around.

I'm not in favor of Crean but his resume is "literally" 10x better than Leatio's.

[Warrior of Law]

Time heals all wounds.  Crean came to the reunion event, was humble and appreciative, and well-received by the audience.  He's not coming back, but I personally would be excited about it.

[The Sultan]

If I were convinced that we would be getting the "same" Crean back, I would be fine with it.  Is he still as hungry?  Can he still recruit?  Will he drive 4ever crazy?  Yes to all three and I'd go for it.

[panda]

If I were convinced that we would be getting the "same" Crean back, I would be fine with it.  Is he still as hungry?  Can he still recruit?  Will he drive 4ever crazy?  Yes to all three and I'd go for it.

Does he sleep in his office ;-)

[franklinjerry]

I've thought TC for some time now. He seems to speak fondly of his days at MU. Often seen at the TBT games cheering for his guys. Showed up for the MU anniversary a couple years back. I always wondered if he regretted the "It's Indiana" move, knowing that at the time, it was a blue blood job and he would have regretted turning it down.

Having said all that, while I think he's a good recruiter, I thought his in game coaching was suspect. Run around the perimeter for 20 seconds then force a shot. Very little after a timeout. Also watched Bo pound him twice a year with inferior talent.

I do recall a significant portion of the contributing alumni base didn't seem to mind when he left.

I wouldn't be shocked.

[Galway Eagle]

Maybe he'd actually pay his promised donation to the soccer stadium

[Herman Cain]

This article details the terms of Creans 6 year $20 million contract at Georgia. He is making some good coin there and there is still a large buyout in place.

Crean is also loading up on Jucos.

https://247sports.com/college/georgia/Article/Georgia-Bulldogs-Details-of-Tom-Creans-first-UGA-contract-119951637/

https://247sports.com/college/georgia/Season/2020-Basketball/Commits/

[wadesworld]

5$ is getting his wish.

[1SE]

TC - ugh, no.  It's like being with the uglier of the ugly step sisters (Wojo) and thinking the other one is a step up.

I was a student during the TC era. Going to the FF was awesome. But he was never a good coach. With a good coach we would have won the NC in '04.