MLB Hot Stove 2019-20

[Mr. Nielsen]

The only thing those two things have in common is that they play baseball.

Yes, that looks to be the problem.

[GB Warrior]

The only thing those two things have in common is that they play are playing baseball, and the MLB is not.

FIFY

[cheebs09]

Maybe MLB needs to look at the Milwaukee Milkman. They are rolling along fine. Players are testing negative.

Didn't they have a positive test postpone their opening day? I think it was the Chicago Team that had the positive, but that league hasn't been immune.

[JWags85]

Wouldn't have happened if the Cards followed the unwritten rules

Also, bump:

Except that all other sports other than baseball are doing just fine...

[The Sultan]

Except that all other sports other than baseball are doing just fine...

When you say "all other sports" you mean MLS, NBA and WNBA....so far.  And they have bubbled their entire teams.  Hockey is basically the same, but they are also in Canada which is handling this way better than we are.

Baseball wasn't willing to do that.  The NFL doesn't look to be doing that either.

[BM1090]

I assume they'll keep powering through and add a week or two onto the end of the season to make up the games that are getting cancelled. They should probably stop now but no indications it's even on the table.

[Mr. Nielsen]

Didn't they have a positive test postpone their opening day? I think it was the Chicago Team that had the positive, but that league hasn't been immune.

I was at Opening Day. It was the 3rd game of the season. July 5th. No postpone games since.

[shoothoops]

The Cardinals have two positive tests (for now). Both are pitchers.

[JWags85]

When you say "all other sports" you mean MLS, NBA and WNBA....so far.  And they have bubbled their entire teams.  Hockey is basically the same, but they are also in Canada which is handling this way better than we are.

Baseball wasn't willing to do that.  The NFL doesn't look to be doing that either.

But that's not what he said. He originally posted that in the NBA thread, when a bubble was already in process and stated that it would be a disaster like all other sports.

I'm. It doubting that the MLB is different and handling it with some significant issues. But he's taking a victory lap over a prediction that wasn't even baseball related initially, and isn't true for the aforementioned leagues. Or the PGA or NASCAR.

If he said "all non-bubble sports" sure. But I specifically remember people asking how he anticipated the NBA bubble "failing spectacularly" after he made his original prediction.

[The Sultan]

But that's not what he said. He originally posted that in the NBA thread, when a bubble was already in process and stated that it would be a disaster like all other sports.

I'm. It doubting that the MLB is different and handling it with some significant issues. But he's taking a victory lap over a prediction that wasn't even baseball related initially, and isn't true for the aforementioned leagues. Or the PGA or NASCAR.

If he said "all non-bubble sports" sure. But I specifically remember people asking how he anticipated the NBA bubble "failing spectacularly" after he made his original prediction.

I was just responding to you without the proper context.  And you are right about the PGA and NASCAR, but those are very different type of sports where positive tests don't impact the event directly.

[Hards Alumni]

Fastest way to solve the covid problem the MLB is having is to make positive teams forfeit games and their paychecks for those games.

I'm the union would have problems with it, but self policing is best policing.

[MUBurrow]

Fastest way to solve the covid problem the MLB is having is to make positive teams forfeit games and their paychecks for those games.

I'm the union would have problems with it, but self policing is best policing.

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[Hards Alumni]

work stoppage work stoppage work stoppage work stoppage

But that's what they're already doing 

[The Sultan]

But that's what they're already doing 

Yeah but they're getting paid for it now!

[MUBurrow]

But then just have a bubble, call it what it is, and let players opt out.  If I were a player and had to run the risks of the locker room, travel, and playing the games, then return to my family each night, and on top of it be told that if I got sick through no fault of my own I wouldn't get paid - all in an attempt to catch the guys making stupid decisions, I'd just say screw it and stay home. 

And I understand the obvious parallels to non pro-athlete jobs, but I don't find the "this is how life is for grocery store workers so pro baseball players should just suck it up becuase they make millions" argument to be convincing.  The players parlayed their labor into a strong union with the resources to protect them from those dangers in this situation.  We should be finding ways to get grocery store workers closer to where baseball players are, not trying to cut the baseball players off at the knees becuse their union is too successful.

[Lennys Tap]

Is Cleveland the team to beat in the AL Central. If Carrasco stays healthy, they may have the best top 4 starters in baseball.

Amazing. They trade Bauer and Kluber and still are loaded with stud arms.

[Jockey]

Major League Baseball commissioner Rob Manfred told MLB Players Association executive director Tony Clark on Friday that if the sport doesn't do a better job of managing the coronavirus, it could shut down for the season, sources familiar with the conversation told ESPN.

Could happen as soon as Monday if there are more positives this weekend.

[The Sultan]

Major League Baseball commissioner Rob Manfred told MLB Players Association executive director Tony Clark on Friday that if the sport doesn't do a better job of managing the coronavirus, it could shut down for the season, sources familiar with the conversation told ESPN.

Could happen as soon as Monday if there are more positives this weekend.

Really too late for the players to do anything by Monday.

[#UnleashSean]

But then just have a bubble, call it what it is, and let players opt out.  If I were a player and had to run the risks of the locker room, travel, and playing the games, then return to my family each night, and on top of it be told that if I got sick through no fault of my own I wouldn't get paid - all in an attempt to catch the guys making stupid decisions, I'd just say screw it and stay home.

We call that normal life for 99.5% of Americans

[CreightonWarrior]

Who shot down the bubble idea? Players or owners? What a $hitshow

[MUBurrow]

We call that normal life for 99.5% of Americans

Lol literally the part of my post you didn't quote

[Dish]

The historical numbers on Kimbrel are becoming staggering. The Cubs can't put him out there any more.

[ChuckyChip]

Brewers and Cards postponed again for Saturday.

[cheebs09]

Some rumors of Cardinals at a casino. I know Poto is hard to turn down but come on.

I don't see any way sports work at the moment without a bubble. Manfred really screwed this up. Seems to be no enforcement other than a stern talking to. Also, to say if the players don't clean this up over the weekend so there aren't more positives this weekend and Monday shows a lack of understanding of how this virus works. We won't see the effect of changed behavior until later this upcoming week.

[CreightonWarrior]

Perhaps they're only do the "stern talking toos" because they already know the season is trashed and they're just building up evidence so they won't have to pay players when it does get cancelled.