Upsets! / Surprise results.

[MuMark]

Vandy is 0-8 in the Sec.....LSU is 8-0

Vandy leading 97-90 with 37 seconds left......

[muguru]

Not really a "surprise" per se, but the badgers are getting smacked by 20 late in the game @ Minnesota.

It really pisses me off that they have totally lucked out some games this year, or their season would look a whole lot different right now. As it is, people have them safely in the NCAA's. I'm not so sure that's the case. They are only 3 games over .500. What might work in their favor is they have like 4 of their final 6 at home, where...they have gotten some awfully lucky wins this year. Maryland comes right to mind, MSU last week as well. Hopefully Ohio State takes them behind the woodshed on Sunday.

[MU82]

Vandy is 0-8 in the Sec.....LSU is 8-0

Vandy leading 97-90 with 37 seconds left......

Vanderbilt had set an SEC record with 26 straight conference losses ... until tonight.

Might not be quite as big an upset as Evansville over Kentucky at Lexington ... but a pretty freakin' huge upset!!

[rocky_warrior]

Vandy is 0-8 in the Sec.....LSU is 8-0

Vandy leading 97-90 with 37 seconds left......

And Vandy is a sub .500 team, and had lost 26 (?) straight SEC games.

[We R Final Four]

It really pisses me off that they have totally lucked out some games this year, or their season would look a whole lot different right now. As it is, people have them safely in the NCAA's. I'm not so sure that's the case. They are only 3 games over .500. What might work in their favor is they have like 4 of their final 6 at home, where...they have gotten some awfully lucky wins this year. Maryland comes right to mind, MSU last week as well. Hopefully Ohi syate takes them behind the woodshed on Sunday.

? Wisconsin has like 6 Q1 wins.
The reason people are saying they are safely in the tourney is because they are.

[WhoaJoe2020]

? Wisconsin has like 6 Q1 wins.
The reason people are saying they are safely in the tourney is because they are.

If the Baggers go 3-5 to end the season, they would have a 16-15 record. That would be the lowest number of wins, the highest number of losses, and the worst overall record to get an at large bid under the most recent RPI formula from 2005.

4-4 gets them to 17-14 and ties for the lowest number of wins, the highest number of losses, and would also be the worst overall record to get an at large bid since the 2005 changes.

Would their Q1 wins carry enough weight to get them in under those scenarios??

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

If the Baggers go 3-5 to end the season, they would have a 16-15 record. That would be the lowest number of wins, the highest number of losses, and the worst overall record to get an at large bid under the most recent RPI formula from 2005.

4-4 gets them to 17-14 and ties for the lowest number of wins, the highest number of losses, and would also be the worst overall record to get an at large bid since the 2005 changes.

Would their Q1 wins carry enough weight to get them in under those scenarios??

2nd scenario, I would say yes. First scenario? It would definitely be breaking new ground but I think it is possible. 11 Big Ten teams are currently projected to make the tournament in the Bracketmatrix with a 12th in the first four out. If KenPom picked the field, 12 Big 10 would get at large bids. They are going to beat each other up and it's going to result in a few teams with really ugly records but really sexy computer numbers. It will be interesting to see how the committee deals with the B1G this season.

[We R Final Four]

If the Baggers go 3-5 to end the season, they would have a 16-15 record. That would be the lowest number of wins, the highest number of losses, and the worst overall record to get an at large bid under the most recent RPI formula from 2005.

4-4 gets them to 17-14 and ties for the lowest number of wins, the highest number of losses, and would also be the worst overall record to get an at large bid since the 2005 changes.

Would their Q1 wins carry enough weight to get them in under those scenarios??

Unfortunately, yes.

[MU82]

2nd scenario, I would say yes. First scenario? It would definitely be breaking new ground but I think it is possible. 11 Big Ten teams are currently projected to make the tournament in the Bracketmatrix with a 12th in the first four out. If KenPom picked the field, 12 Big 10 would get at large bids. They are going to beat each other up and it's going to result in a few teams with really ugly records but really sexy computer numbers. It will be interesting to see how the committee deals with the B1G this season.

Agree. It would be unchartered territory, and the results -- and any explanations given on Selection Sunday -- will be fascinating. We will get a look at how much committee members accept NET and such as gospel.

[StillAWarrior]

104 points and 19 made 3s for Purdue.......lol

Even Tommy Luce (i.e., their Rob Frozena) had a couple three pointers.  Like most schools, they love their "human victory cigar." You could hear them chanting for him with about 5-6 minutes left in the game.

He's actually a pretty funny guy who has taken a page out of Mark Titus's book and really embraced the role. His Gettin' Loose with Tommy Luce videos are crowd favorites.

Gettin' Loose with Tommy Luce

[muguru]

? Wisconsin has like 6 Q1 wins.
The reason people are saying they are safely in the tourney is because they are.

You sure?? What if their overall record is .500?? OUT Or even a game or two over. Only one team in the history of the NCAA's has made the tourney 2 games or less above .500 and that was a Georgia team that played an unprecedented non conf schedule.

[We R Final Four]

As it is, people have them safely in the NCAA's. I'm not so sure that's the case. They are only 3 games over .500.

...as it is

[shoothoops]

And Vandy is a sub .500 team, and had lost 26 (?) straight SEC games.

Bryce Drew inherited an NCAA team and made NCAA's, 10 league wins first year, then 6, then 0. Then fired. His two 5 star recruits suffered major injuries (Darius Garland, Simi Shittu) and they never recovered. New AD Malcolm Turner fires Drew w/o meeting w/him. Some thought Drew should be given more time, others thought team quit on him.

Turner hires Jerry Stackhouse, NBA assistant, G league head coach, with a rep for player development. First season, Aaron Nesmith, country's leading 3 point shooter and one of the country's best scorers, injured and out for season prior to league play. Much improved and Vandy's front court player Clevon Brown, also got injured during this season and is out for the year. If you watch them play, Stack can coach. He's learning some other things but he understands player development and x's and o's well.

Will Wade had some interesting comments after the game saying some teams in their league are dying on the vine on offense but VU isn't one of them. They run a lot of good sets, good spacing. Just need more depth, experience, bodies, shooters. Stack is showing he can coach. He will need to show he can recruit at a high level. They did land Myles Stute,
someone MU recruited. But they will need to close for 2021, 2022 players.  Nesmith, a Drew recruit had been top 20 mock drafts and is not likely to return. (He does enthusiastically sit on bench for games) David Grace had a good recruiting rep. Needs one more
recruiter on staff.

Oh and by the way, that AD Malcolm Turner, was fired this week. Candice Storey Lee is interim AD. She is popular former VU hooper and 20 year member of their Athletic Dept. First African American female AD in SEC. It's all quite interesting.

LSU? They can score, have length......but they are well into the 100's in several defensive categories. They are not a good defensive team.

[Oldgym]

Even Tommy Luce (i.e., their Rob Frozena) had a couple three pointers.  Like most schools, they love their "human victory cigar." You could hear them chanting for him with about 5-6 minutes left in the game.

He's actually a pretty funny guy who has taken a page out of Mark Titus's book and really embraced the role. His Gettin' Loose with Tommy Luce videos are crowd favorites.

Gettin' Loose with Tommy Luce

Thanks.  This made my morning.

[Warrior Code]

Even Tommy Luce (i.e., their Rob Frozena) had a couple three pointers.  Like most schools, they love their "human victory cigar." You could hear them chanting for him with about 5-6 minutes left in the game.

He's actually a pretty funny guy who has taken a page out of Mark Titus's book and really embraced the role. His Gettin' Loose with Tommy Luce videos are crowd favorites.

This is great

[MU82]

During USC-AZ game, Bill Walton just said about USC's defense:  "Trojans are all about protection."

[Dr. Blackheart]

During USC-AZ game, Bill Walton just said about USC's defense:  "Trojans are all about protection."

It sounds like he was ribbing them.

[Cheeks]

It sounds like he was ribbing them.

He does have a reservoir of good stories.

[Johnny B]

It sounds like he was ribbing them.

Does this actually make any semblance of sense as a joke? I get what you're saying but like it doesnt even fit. It's like me saying"hes advocating the team wears rain jackets after the game".

[Lennys Tap]

Does this actually make any semblance of sense as a joke? I get what you're saying but like it doesnt even fit. It's like me saying"hes advocating the team wears rain jackets after the game".

??

[tower912]

Of all the things we complain about, when the rubber hits the road, do we really need to stand in condomnation of this?

[MU82]

Arizona saw, they conquered, they came. I just hope the Trojans put up enough of a barrier.

[Jay Bee]

Many teams would have simply pulled out. The Trojans stayed in the battle til the end

[Galway Eagle]

The Trojans can really penetrate on offense

[Mods, Delete me please. 8/26/2020]

I was expecting Arizona would cream the Trojans