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Started by MuMark, November 08, 2019, 04:50:57 PM

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lawdog77

So, precedence is set? Boosters can pay for "moving expenses" for the family to be close, and the player has to sit out non conference season?

Just want tom make sure before I do this.

Cheeks

Quote from: lawdog77 on November 20, 2019, 07:34:59 PM
So, precedence is set? Boosters can pay for "moving expenses" for the family to be close, and the player has to sit out non conference season?

Just want tom make sure before I do this.

It's funny, I would have sat him for the year for exactly the reason you just stated.  Meanwhile, there are millions of people screaming that even one game was too much.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

brewcity77

I'm shocked the NCAA went with 12. That's far more than I expected.
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Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: lawdog77 on November 20, 2019, 07:34:59 PM
So, precedence is set? Boosters can pay for "moving expenses" for the family to be close, and the player has to sit out non conference season?

Just want tom make sure before I do this.

Haha yep, open season baby! Back up the Brinks truck!

rocket surgeon

  let's see...approximately 18-20 games for $10,500=$525-883.3333333 per game

that's a pretty good deal and keeps them under the salary cap
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

Cheeks

Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 20, 2019, 04:58:33 PM
Once again, the NCAA proves its stupidity


Agree.

Should have been the entire year.

"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Nah. A bunch of mitigating factors here. A whole year would be a brainless "rules are rules"!mindset.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 21, 2019, 07:17:12 AM
Nah. A bunch of mitigating factors here. A whole year would be a brainless "rules are rules"!mindset.

I'm puzzled as to the NCAA making him donate $11,000 to charity.  Hope he has a job
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

Cheeks

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 21, 2019, 07:17:12 AM
Nah. A bunch of mitigating factors here. A whole year would be a brainless "rules are rules"!mindset.

What are those factors?  True factors, not the bleeding heart life is unfair ones.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

The biggest was that his family wasn't given the money on a condition that he attend the University of Memphis. 

I would also then argue that since the payment would have been fine under any other circumstance, that the fact that Penny is a "booster" should be mitigated.

BTW, the fine is silly.  Just another stupid NCAA amateurism mindset.  He borrows the money with his future NBA contract as collateral.  Waste of time and effort.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 21, 2019, 08:32:58 AM
The biggest was that his family wasn't given the money on a condition that he attend the University of Memphis. 

I would also then argue that since the payment would have been fine under any other circumstance, that the fact that Penny is a "booster" should be mitigated.

BTW, the fine is silly.  Just another stupid NCAA amateurism mindset.  He borrows the money with his future NBA contract as collateral.  Waste of time and effort.

LOL were you born yesterday?

I actually have no problems with payments of this kind. I think it should be open season. But come on man.

lawdog77

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 21, 2019, 08:32:58 AM
I would also then argue that since the payment would have been fine under any other circumstance,
what does this even mean?

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on November 21, 2019, 09:15:39 AM
LOL were you born yesterday?

I actually have no problems with payments of this kind. I think it should be open season. But come on man.


Penny wasn't the head coach of Memphis at the time.  He was paid to join his AAU and his high school team. 


Quote from: lawdog77 on November 21, 2019, 09:25:13 AM
what does this even mean?

That it was a legal payment.  Not under the table, etc.

BTW, I think Penny should be facing a similar suspension.  He is the one that eventually put the kid in this scenario.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

lawdog77

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 21, 2019, 09:33:34 AM

Penny wasn't the head coach of Memphis at the time.  He was paid to join his AAU and his high school team. 


That it was a legal payment.  Not under the table, etc.

BTW, I think Penny should be facing a similar suspension.  He is the one that eventually put the kid in this scenario.
Did each side claim it on their taxes?

Galway Eagle

Does the Tennessee high school athletic association not have rules against paying players?
Maigh Eo for Sam

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: lawdog77 on November 21, 2019, 09:37:58 AM
Did each side claim it on their taxes?

How the hell would I know?


Quote from: Galway Eagle on November 21, 2019, 10:05:44 AM
Does the Tennessee high school athletic association not have rules against paying players?

Yes.  It's a long story but he was declared ineligible, a court issued a stay, and I think the title he won in high school has been stripped.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 21, 2019, 10:08:43 AM
How the hell would I know?


Yes.  It's a long story but he was declared ineligible, a court issued a stay, and I think the title he won in high school has been stripped.

Thanks for the info
Maigh Eo for Sam

lawdog77

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 21, 2019, 10:08:43 AM
How the hell would I know?



you said the transaction was appropriate except for Penny being a booster

GoldenWarrior11

If you play with fire, you will get burned.  Memphis State knew the risks in hiring Penny.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: lawdog77 on November 21, 2019, 11:07:29 AM
you said the transaction was appropriate except for Penny being a booster


Transactions can be appropriate.  If the gifter or receiver does not adquately report them, that's another issue.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

lawdog77

That transaction was not, by tennessee high school,  NCAA, and most likely IRS regs.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: lawdog77 on November 21, 2019, 01:30:19 PM
That transaction was not, by tennessee high school,  NCAA, and most likely IRS regs.


1. Not relevant to the issue at hand
2. What we are debating
3. If reported correctly, it would be.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

lawdog77

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 21, 2019, 01:44:09 PM

1. Not relevant to the issue at hand
2. What we are debating
3. If reported correctly, it would be.
1. Yes it is, you stated under any other cirmustances the transaction was fine. 2. Your implication that 12 games is apt 3. I would assume if it was reported correctly, the details would have came out earlier

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: lawdog77 on November 21, 2019, 01:56:44 PM
1. Yes it is, you stated under any other cirmustances the transaction was fine.


I meant legally.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Cheeks

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 21, 2019, 09:33:34 AM

Penny wasn't the head coach of Memphis at the time.  He was paid to join his AAU and his high school team. 


That it was a legal payment.  Not under the table, etc.

BTW, I think Penny should be facing a similar suspension.  He is the one that eventually put the kid in this scenario.

He was a booster and already rumored to be Tubby's replacement in the media at that time...linked article last week.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire