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Started by MuMark, November 08, 2019, 04:50:57 PM

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The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: forgetful on November 09, 2019, 04:35:33 PM
Fixed it for you. And 100% disagree. There was zero reason to use discretion here.


If that's your opinion, I know mine is sound.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

forgetful

This wasn't even a close call. From all accounts this wasn't even a "loan" that was paid back. It was a large cash gift.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: forgetful on November 09, 2019, 04:41:28 PM
This wasn't even a close call. From all accounts this wasn't even a "loan" that was paid back. It was a large cash gift.

No one is disputing this.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Cheeks

Quote from: forgetful on November 09, 2019, 04:41:28 PM
This wasn't even a close call. From all accounts this wasn't even a "loan" that was paid back. It was a large cash gift.

There are folks here that are just fine with that...mercenary payments...justice and equality and something something
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

rocket surgeon

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 09, 2019, 03:52:47 PM
It's not really relevant since the NCAA knew about it and declared him eligible anyway.

forgot that cal left a few years earlier-just paying it forward?
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

lawdog77

Quote from: Cheeks on November 09, 2019, 04:57:52 PM
There are folks here that are just fine with that...mercenary payments...justice and equality and something something
not fine with that, but just saying.if the.NCAA knew and declared him eligble..not a good look

wadesworld

Can we open a Scoop fund to start paying the best high school sophomores in the country to move to Milwaukee for high school? Would help in recruiting them.

brewcity77

Quote from: GarciasWorld on November 09, 2019, 05:39:39 PM
Can we open a Scoop fund to start paying the best high school sophomores in the country to move to Milwaukee for high school? Would help in recruiting them.

Probably help more to hire Antonio Curro as an assistant.
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The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: GarciasWorld on November 09, 2019, 05:39:39 PM
Can we open a Scoop fund to start paying the best high school sophomores in the country to move to Milwaukee for high school? Would help in recruiting them.

Jalen Johnson moves without our help...and that didn't do us much good
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

wadesworld

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 09, 2019, 05:52:35 PM
Jalen Johnson moves without our help...and that didn't do us much good

Moved for like 6 months.

Cheeks

Quote from: lawdog77 on November 09, 2019, 05:36:51 PM
not fine with that, but just saying.if the.NCAA knew and declared him eligble..not a good look

Or additional info came to light...
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

lawdog77

Quote from: Cheeks on November 09, 2019, 06:39:56 PM
Or additional info came to light...
agree. But if the NCAA knew Hardaway paid for the move, and said he was eligible, what else is there?

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: lawdog77 on November 09, 2019, 06:57:09 PM
agree. But if the NCAA knew Hardaway paid for the move, and said he was eligible, what else is there?


That he made a gift...11 years ago.  ::)
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

wadesworld

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 09, 2019, 07:20:44 PM

That he made a gift...11 years ago.  ::)

And graduated from the school. He's a booster in every sense of the definition.

Billy Hoyle

#139
Quote from: lawdog77 on November 09, 2019, 03:20:25 PM
If the NCAA did really know all of the facts, then I have flipped on this issue.

They may have thought they knew all of the facts and then learned there were more.

Was the NCAA wrong when they invalidated the ACT score of Derrick Rose after they originally cleared him as eligible?  I mean, they did have all of the facts when they got the original score report.  Were they wrong for what they did in that case?
"You either smoke or you get smoked. And you got smoked."

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: GarciasWorld on November 09, 2019, 07:40:58 PM
And graduated from the school. He's a booster in every sense of the definition.

I guess. But the NCAA should exercise discretion because their ruling is ridiculous.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 09, 2019, 07:42:45 PM
They may have thought they knew all of the facts and then learned there were more.

Was the NCAA wrong when they invalidated the ACT score of Derrick Rose after they originally cleared him as eligible?  I mean, they did have all of the facts when they got the original score report.  Were they wrong for what they did in that case?

Yes. Because the NCAA has no business declaring who should be academically eligible to play.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 09, 2019, 07:49:05 PM
Yes. Because the NCAA has no business declaring who should be academically eligible to play.

"Officer, the government has no business declaring how fast I can go on these roads. Now be gone and stop impeding my fun."

So you want a return to the 70's and 80's: no academic standards, illiterate student athletes (Dexter Manley), under the table payments everywhere. It's so unfair athletes have to take certain courses and get at least a 2.3 gpa with a passable test score to play sports and get a scholarship. Such injustice there.

The members of the NCAA are the ones who established these rules. And now they get mad when their own rules are enforced against them. If they don't want to follow them they can forfeit the tens of millions they get from the NCAA annually and go elsewhere.
"You either smoke or you get smoked. And you got smoked."

Dr. Blackheart

#143
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 09, 2019, 12:39:37 PM
Each of those programs who had the involved players suspended (if they were still on the team).  And, in case you (conveniently) forgot, the FBI has refused to share the information needed for the NCAA to nail those coaches.

You mean those wires taps already part of the public record? Due process?  Lol. If there was a hint of me or my subordinate bribing a party for business, my arse would be on the street. Will Wade even lied about it to his superiors and got reinstated. Poor Scott Monarch and his t-shirt in comparison.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Yes. The NCAA institutions should be allowed to admit whomever they wish. Especially considering the biases in standardized testing.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Cheeks

The key words in the articles, assuming the media got it right, is "upon FURTHER investigation" which led to the decision.  I take that as more info came to light
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Nukem2

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 09, 2019, 08:05:14 PM
Yes. The NCAA institutions should be allowed to admit whomever they wish. Especially considering the biases in standardized testing.
Sultan say whatever people want they should get.  You are way too easy.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: Nukem2 on November 09, 2019, 09:00:01 PM
Sultan say whatever people want they should get.  You are way too easy.

Didn't say that. Hyperbole is a tool of the weak.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

muguru

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 09, 2019, 07:48:16 PM
I guess. But the NCAA should exercise discretion because their ruling is ridiculous.

Discretion how though?? He's a booster, plain and simple. If you make an exception for him, then no one can be considered a "booster" and schools like Kansas walk scott free. Now if you want to use an instance where a season ticket holder shouldn't be considered a booster...I could see that. But he played for Memphis, now he coaches there, and he gave a family money, and the kid ended up playing at Memphis. I mean if that isn't the eact definition of a booster, I don't know what would be. Even if it was 11 years ago.
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: muguru on November 09, 2019, 10:09:27 PM
Discretion how though?? He's a booster, plain and simple. If you make an exception for him, then no one can be considered a "booster" and schools like Kansas walk scott free. Now if you want to use an instance where a season ticket holder shouldn't be considered a booster...I could see that. But he played for Memphis, now he coaches there, and he gave a family money, and the kid ended up playing at Memphis. I mean if that isn't the eact definition of a booster, I don't know what would be. Even if it was 11 years ago.



Hypothetical.  If i gave my neighbor $500 because he needed it to pay his mortgage, and his five year old kid grows up becomming a top 100 basketball player, should he be disallowed to go to Marquette based on the fact that I am a "booster" since I have made donations to the University in the past?  Even if they total less than $500?
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.