OT Memphis

[lawdog77]

So, precedence is set? Boosters can pay for "moving expenses" for the family to be close, and the player has to sit out non conference season?

Just want tom make sure before I do this.

[Cheeks]

So, precedence is set? Boosters can pay for "moving expenses" for the family to be close, and the player has to sit out non conference season?

Just want tom make sure before I do this.

It's funny, I would have sat him for the year for exactly the reason you just stated.  Meanwhile, there are millions of people screaming that even one game was too much.

[brewcity77]

I'm shocked the NCAA went with 12. That's far more than I expected.

[Silkk the Shaka]

So, precedence is set? Boosters can pay for "moving expenses" for the family to be close, and the player has to sit out non conference season?

Just want tom make sure before I do this.

Haha yep, open season baby! Back up the Brinks truck!

[rocket surgeon]

  let's see...approximately 18-20 games for $10,500=$525-883.3333333 per game

that's a pretty good deal and keeps them under the salary cap

[Cheeks]

Once again, the NCAA proves its stupidity

Agree.

Should have been the entire year.

[The Sultan]

Nah. A bunch of mitigating factors here. A whole year would be a brainless "rules are rules"!mindset.

[Uncle Rico]

Nah. A bunch of mitigating factors here. A whole year would be a brainless "rules are rules"!mindset.

I'm puzzled as to the NCAA making him donate $11,000 to charity.  Hope he has a job

[Cheeks]

Nah. A bunch of mitigating factors here. A whole year would be a brainless "rules are rules"!mindset.

What are those factors?  True factors, not the bleeding heart life is unfair ones.

[The Sultan]

The biggest was that his family wasn't given the money on a condition that he attend the University of Memphis. 

I would also then argue that since the payment would have been fine under any other circumstance, that the fact that Penny is a "booster" should be mitigated.

BTW, the fine is silly.  Just another stupid NCAA amateurism mindset.  He borrows the money with his future NBA contract as collateral.  Waste of time and effort.

[Silkk the Shaka]

The biggest was that his family wasn't given the money on a condition that he attend the University of Memphis. 

I would also then argue that since the payment would have been fine under any other circumstance, that the fact that Penny is a "booster" should be mitigated.

BTW, the fine is silly.  Just another stupid NCAA amateurism mindset.  He borrows the money with his future NBA contract as collateral.  Waste of time and effort.

LOL were you born yesterday?

I actually have no problems with payments of this kind. I think it should be open season. But come on man.

[lawdog77]

I would also then argue that since the payment would have been fine under any other circumstance,

what does this even mean?

[The Sultan]

LOL were you born yesterday?

I actually have no problems with payments of this kind. I think it should be open season. But come on man.

Penny wasn't the head coach of Memphis at the time.  He was paid to join his AAU and his high school team. 

what does this even mean?

That it was a legal payment.  Not under the table, etc.

BTW, I think Penny should be facing a similar suspension.  He is the one that eventually put the kid in this scenario.

[lawdog77]

Penny wasn't the head coach of Memphis at the time.  He was paid to join his AAU and his high school team. 


That it was a legal payment.  Not under the table, etc.

BTW, I think Penny should be facing a similar suspension.  He is the one that eventually put the kid in this scenario.

Did each side claim it on their taxes?

[Galway Eagle]

Does the Tennessee high school athletic association not have rules against paying players?

[The Sultan]

Did each side claim it on their taxes?

How the hell would I know?

Does the Tennessee high school athletic association not have rules against paying players?

Yes.  It's a long story but he was declared ineligible, a court issued a stay, and I think the title he won in high school has been stripped.

[Galway Eagle]

How the hell would I know?


Yes.  It's a long story but he was declared ineligible, a court issued a stay, and I think the title he won in high school has been stripped.

Thanks for the info

[lawdog77]

How the hell would I know?

you said the transaction was appropriate except for Penny being a booster

[GoldenWarrior11]

If you play with fire, you will get burned.  Memphis State knew the risks in hiring Penny.

[The Sultan]

you said the transaction was appropriate except for Penny being a booster

Transactions can be appropriate.  If the gifter or receiver does not adquately report them, that's another issue.

[lawdog77]

That transaction was not, by tennessee high school,  NCAA, and most likely IRS regs.

[The Sultan]

That transaction was not, by tennessee high school,  NCAA, and most likely IRS regs.

1. Not relevant to the issue at hand
2. What we are debating
3. If reported correctly, it would be.

[lawdog77]

1. Not relevant to the issue at hand
2. What we are debating
3. If reported correctly, it would be.

1. Yes it is, you stated under any other cirmustances the transaction was fine. 2. Your implication that 12 games is apt 3. I would assume if it was reported correctly, the details would have came out earlier

[The Sultan]

1. Yes it is, you stated under any other cirmustances the transaction was fine.

I meant legally.

[Cheeks]

Penny wasn't the head coach of Memphis at the time.  He was paid to join his AAU and his high school team. 


That it was a legal payment.  Not under the table, etc.

BTW, I think Penny should be facing a similar suspension.  He is the one that eventually put the kid in this scenario.

He was a booster and already rumored to be Tubby's replacement in the media at that time...linked article last week.