2020 Schedule news

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Western Michigan, Chicago State and Jackson State the three buy games we didn't know.

Gavitt still TBD road game. 

[The Sultan]

THE WESTERN MICHIGAN REVENGE GAME IS ON!!!!!

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Nov 10 - vs. Lehigh
Nov 14 - vs. Albany
Nov 17/18 - @ B10 Team (Gavitt) TBD
Nov 21 - vs. Rhode Island (N Tourney)
Nov 22 - vs. UCF/Minnesota (N Tourney)
Nov 25 - vs. Chicago State
Nov 28 - vs. Western Michigan
Dec 1 - vs. OK State
Dec 5 - vs. Wisconsin
Dec 12 - @ UCLA
Dec 19 - vs. Jackson State

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Tough schedule. Going to assume Illinois or Nebraska for Gavitt game.

9-2 would be a big time win.  Which means 10-10 in BE gets us to 19-12 heading into BE tourney and probably a bubble team.  About as good as we can hope for with this group, IMO. 

[The Sultan]

So about the pre-Holiday conference games, it looks like there would be room for two of them mid week between the three Saturday games. 

[marquette20]

Projected Conference Opponent T Rank:
4.  Villanova
10. Creighton
23. UConn
34. Providence
48. Xavier
51. Seaton Hall
52. St. John's
61. Butler
94. DePaul
106. Georgetown

Projected Non-Conference Opponent T Rank:
6. Wisconsin
33. Oklahoma State
35. UCLA
115. Rhode Island
256. Albany
264. Western Michigan
274. Jackson State
295. Lehigh
331. Chicago State
And either 68. Minnesota or 88. UCF

I used 78 for the second tournament game and did not include Gavitt Tip off game but average non conference opponent rank is 168.7 and conference is 48.3 for average total schedule of 88.4

[Billy Hoyle]

Western Michigan, Chicago State and Jackson State the three buy games we didn't know.

Gavitt still TBD road game.

Chicago State - the worst program in America. 353/353 in the NET. One D1 win last year. I get needing to play more regional teams but come on.

Jackson State - decent HBCU program. 289 last year. Their best non-conference win was #275 Portland. They play every non-conference game on the road out of budgetary necessity.

Western Michigan - 235 last year. Big 3OT win at UWM. New coach this year.

[Herman Cain]

Challenging Non Con Schedule, However, very intelligently constructed. So Kudos to Broeker and Coaching Staff.

The upperclassmen are going to need some time to jell as group. So the sandwich of easy games scheduled around a Big Ten road and the neutral site tournament is perfect. Allows the team  to get figure out where they are and go prepared  into the games  in December that can really help the tournament resume.

Similarly , the Freshman/redshirt Freshman are going to need reps and experience before they get into conference play. They should have a good feel for what is expected by the time Conference play rolls around.

Our 20 game conference schedule is going to be very tough.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Chicago State - the worst program in America. 353/353 in the NET. One D1 win last year. I get needing to play more regional teams but come on.

Jackson State - decent HBCU program. 289 last year. Their best non-conference win was #275 Portland. They play every non-conference game on the road out of budgetary necessity.

Western Michigan - 235 last year. Big 3OT win at UWM. New coach this year.

WMU is fine.

Marquette should never play Chicago State or any SWAC team. I've said it before, I will say it again.  Its stupid.  There are literally a litany of mid and low major teams in neighboring states that would be easy wins and considerably better for the computer numbers. 

I will never get it.  It cannot be that hard. 

[The Sultan]

SWAC programs are cheap.  Also you schedule them when you can get them.  Adding a couple cakiest of the cupcakes isn't going to be a problem with this schedule.

[IrwinFletcher]

WMU is fine.

Marquette should never play Chicago State or any SWAC team. I've said it before, I will say it again.  Its stupid.  There are literally a litany of mid and low major teams in neighboring states that would be easy wins and considerably better for the computer numbers. 

I will never get it.  It cannot be that hard.

I wonder if Marquette schedules CSU or SWAC teams as a way to help them out.  Those schools are so strapped for cash that maybe MU feels they can help these programs remain solvent by paying them $300K or so and allows them to keep the program and opportunities for those kids.

Or, maybe they can just get them on the cheap.

[dad's couch]

The only way playing Chicago St hurts us is if we lose to them or we are a bubble team and need another Quad 1 or Quad 2 win but that means replacing them with a top 70 team but then the economics come in to play. How much more will it cost? Will it be a home and home?

Schedule is fine. Big East won't be as good as last year but there's enough quality opponents in the non conf and conference that if we will our share we'll be fine on selection Sunday.

[brewcity77]

The only way playing Chicago St hurts us is if we lose to them or we are a bubble team and need another Quad 1 or Quad 2 win but that means replacing them with a top 70 team but then the economics come in to play. How much more will it cost? Will it be a home and home?

Schedule is fine. Big East won't be as good as last year but there's enough quality opponents in the non conf and conference that if we will our share we'll be fine on selection Sunday.

From a metric perspective, set the target at a 35-point win. Anything less is a loss.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

WMU is fine.

Marquette should never play Chicago State or any SWAC team. I've said it before, I will say it again.  Its stupid.  There are literally a litany of mid and low major teams in neighboring states that would be easy wins and considerably better for the computer numbers. 

I will never get it.  It cannot be that hard.

This was more true when RPI was a thing. Now, just make sure you blast them and your computer numbers will improve. For example, when beat lowly 10-21 Central Arkansas (#283 in KenPom last season), our KenPom ranking jumped from #31 to #26 because we beat them by 52. For comparison, when we beat top 75 Davidson, our KenPom rating only jumped from #29 to #27 because we only beat them by 10. It's all about efficiency now.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Tough schedule. Going to assume Illinois or Nebraska for Gavitt game.

9-2 would be a big time win.  Which means 10-10 in BE gets us to 19-12 heading into BE tourney and probably a bubble team.  About as good as we can hope for with this group, IMO.

10-10 is no where near the bubble

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

WMU is fine.

Marquette should never play Chicago State or any SWAC team. I've said it before, I will say it again.  Its stupid.  There are literally a litany of mid and low major teams in neighboring states that would be easy wins and considerably better for the computer numbers. 

I will never get it.  It cannot be that hard.

Mid major teams are far far harder to schedule

[dad's couch]

10-10 is no where near the bubble

Why? We were in with our conference record this year.

[CountryRoads]

The only positive to not having fans at the game for the (first part of?) next year would be that Badger game on December 5 with no students. Yikes, that would be an ugly scene seeing 10k+ badger fans there. Looks like a good schedule overall though.

[wadesworld]

The only positive to not having fans at the game for the (first part of?) next year would be that Badger game on December 5 with no students. Yikes, that would be an ugly scene seeing 10k+ badger fans there. Looks like a good schedule overall though.

What?

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Why? We were in with our conference record this year.

Meaning way above the bubble prolly 8-9 seed.   Jjjjj said we will go 10-10 n be on the bubble

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

All depends on the quality of the Big East this season. I think the conference as a whole will be down next year. Villanova will be top dog. Butler, Creighton, Marquette, Seton Hall, UConn, and Xavier will be smooshed in the middle. DePaul, Providence, and St. John's will have at least a prayer of making the NCAAs. Georgetown will be BAD.

[muwarrior69]

Projected Conference Opponent T Rank:
4.  Villanova
10. Creighton
23. UConn
34. Providence
48. Xavier
51. Seaton Hall
52. St. John's
61. Butler
94. DePaul
106. Georgetown

Projected Non-Conference Opponent T Rank:
6. Wisconsin
33. Oklahoma State
35. UCLA
115. Rhode Island
256. Albany
264. Western Michigan
274. Jackson State
295. Lehigh
331. Chicago State
And either 68. Minnesota or 88. UCF

I used 78 for the second tournament game and did not include Gavitt Tip off game but average non conference opponent rank is 168.7 and conference is 48.3 for average total schedule of 88.4

What is Marquettes's T-Rank?

[IrwinFletcher]

Marquette currently at 70 and that includes DJ Carton on the roster.

One thing I disagree with, is that he has Koby playing about 30 mpg at an ORtg of 98, which is bad.  No way that happens.  If he is playing at that level, Koby isn't playing that much and Symir's PT increases a lot.  If he is playing 32 mpg, his ORtg will be much higher.

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[Herman Cain]

All depends on the quality of the Big East this season. I think the conference as a whole will be down next year. Villanova will be top dog. Butler, Creighton, Marquette, Seton Hall, UConn, and Xavier will be smooshed in the middle. DePaul, Providence, and St. John's will have at least a prayer of making the NCAAs. Georgetown will be BAD.

Creighton is going to be very strong again.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Creighton is going to be very strong again.

Maybe.  Without Alexander,  I'm not so sure. That being said,  I would put them towards the top of that middle group