Deadspin

[4everwarriors]

God Bless America, aina?

[Cheeks]

God Bless America, aina?

God Bless Bad America, apparently.

[panda]

Annnnndddddd we're off the rails.

[mu_hilltopper]

The memory hole was hungry this morning.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

The memory hole was hungry this morning.

Arby's needs to serve breakfast.

[Pakuni]

But there is a skill to having a tone and message without bashing you over the head with it. I can read content from people all over the political spectrum as long as it's entertaining and not ham fisted. Deadspin got ham fisted and whiny in my opinion. Leitch has a lot in common ideologically with the recent crop and Daluerio was actually slimy and deplorable in many ways, but they were entertaining and engaging content was king, that got lost. To think that Deadspin as it was before the recent acquisition was anything more than a reclamation project is revisionist history, IMO.

And I'll fully agree Barstool lost control of the supporter crew. I can assure you a brand with the success they have doesn't want 17 year olds calling people profanities and other demeaning names on their behalf. The loyalty and engagement that built them from a plucky underdog that they readily encouraged to go to bat for them got way out of control. They killed off their own comment section cause it got so bad.

And I'm interested to know who thinks Portnoy the civilian is a massive dbag. I'm not talking people who engaged him on content or went at him for various Barstool grievances.  I know 2 pizza owners in NYC, one that that wouldn't know Barstool from Whirlpool, and the other who hated their Boston slant, who couldn't speak more highly after they got contacted and did pizza reviews.

If you want to be a Stoolie and defend Dave Portnoy, that's fine with me. Really. But I also think it's easy enough to find plenty of people who know him and also dislike him (including former employees and business partners who've sued him).
But for the love of God, enough with the "Portnoy the civilian" nonsense. Portnoy the civilian and "El Presidente" who leads harassment campaigns online, threatens his critics, etc., are not two different people. It's the same guy. And your attempt to differentiate is simply a way to excuse his worst behavior. "Oh, well, that's not really Dave. That's El Prez."
Look, it's not all that unusual for a person to be friendly to his/her friends and supporters and support charitable causes. while also being an atrocious piece of sh-t to others.

[MU82]

The vast majority got the message and we were let in on what that was...as were other partners.  The players are not dumb, the player agents are really really not dumb, and neither is the league.  Honest question, are the actions anywhere close to what they were a few years ago by the players...do you believe that?  Do you believe ther were reasons why so much was pulled back in terms of their way of protesting?

This is false.

The NFL tried and failed. At least one active player is still taking a knee, collecting a large paycheck and facing absolutely no retribution. The issue simply fizzled out, as sometimes happened. If interest in the issue increases again, the NFL might again try and fail.

[Jockey]

Someone just declared victory and went on to the next shiny thing.

[panda]

If you want to be a Stoolie and defend Dave Portnoy, that's fine with me. Really. But I also think it's easy enough to find plenty of people who know him and also dislike him (including former employees and business partners who've sued him).
But for the love of God, enough with the "Portnoy the civilian" nonsense. Portnoy the civilian and "El Presidente" who leads harassment campaigns online, threatens his critics, etc., are not two different people. It's the same guy. And your attempt to differentiate is simply a way to excuse his worst behavior. "Oh, well, that's not really Dave. That's El Prez."
Look, it's not all that unusual for a person to be friendly to his/her friends and supporters and support charitable causes. while also being an atrocious piece of sh-t to others.

AJ Daulerio?

[tower912]

Look, it's not all that unusual for a person to be friendly to his/her friends and supporters and support charitable causes. while also being an atrocious piece of sh-t to others.

It is just sitting there teed up.   

[T-Bone]

Long live KSK!

[Cheeks]

This is false.

The NFL tried and failed. At least one active player is still taking a knee, collecting a large paycheck and facing absolutely no retribution. The issue simply fizzled out, as sometimes happened. If interest in the issue increases again, the NFL might again try and fail.

The NFL had over 200 players take a knee....one still does.  Their ratings have rebounded, sponsorships rebounded...as I said...the vast vast vast majority got the message.

[MU82]

The NFL had over 200 players take a knee....one still does.  Their ratings have rebounded, sponsorships rebounded...as I said...the vast vast vast majority got the message.

That is your opinion.

My opinion is that this particular protest lost steam because the reasons behind it had slipped from the headlines. If social issues resurface that energize players, they will protest again -- empowered by the fact that the NFL was unable to establish any deterrent whatsoever.

Now move along and make up another "fact" that you can argue for the sake of arguing.

[rocket surgeon]

This is false.

The NFL tried and failed. At least one active player is still taking a knee, collecting a large paycheck and facing absolutely no retribution. The issue simply fizzled out, as sometimes happened. If interest in the issue increases again, the NFL might again try and fail.

no no no 82, ya got it all wrong-most of the players were going to do the knee thing until their civil rights issues were attended to.  so, with the exception of reid, all the others must feel they made a difference and life is good...i guess

[rocket surgeon]

That is your opinion.

My opinion is that this particular protest lost steam because the reasons behind it had slipped from the headlines slipped from the headlines. If social issues resurface that energize players, they will protest again -- empowered by the fact that the NFL was unable to establish any deterrent whatsoever.

Now move along and make up another "fact" that you can argue for the sake of arguing.

bingo!  so it is the so called "journalists" who control the narrative?  whatever they say or however they portray it, is gospel?  that's where the problem is.  the media coverage of "stuff" is not like if a tree falls in the woods kinda thing.  what they cover and for how long they cover it depends if it fits their belief system and the narrative they want to push.  differing degrees of censorship if you will.

so their "social issues" got all better?  cool.  waiting for them to start doing the knee thingy for things like the 7 year old girl who got shot trick or treating or the under reported rapes by illegals;  especially of children.  many of the major inner cities have become war zones for innocent, law abiding people.  that would be a good one to kneel for, just not during the anthem.  maybe a moment of silence before or after the anthem

[ATL MU Warrior]

bingo!  so it is the so called "journalists" who control the narrative?  whatever they say or however they portray it, is gospel?  that's where the problem is.  the media coverage of "stuff" is not like if a tree falls in the woods kinda thing.  what they cover and for how long they cover it depends if it fits their belief system and the narrative they want to push.  differing degrees of censorship if you will.

so their "social issues" got all better?  cool.  waiting for them to start doing the knee thingy for things like the 7 year old girl who got shot trick or treating or the under reported rapes by illegals;  especially of children.  many of the major inner cities have become war zones for innocent, law abiding people.  that would be a good one to kneel for, just not during the anthem.  maybe a moment of silence before or after the anthem

Oh my god.

[Uncle Rico]

bingo!  so it is the so called "journalists" who control the narrative?  whatever they say or however they portray it, is gospel?  that's where the problem is.  the media coverage of "stuff" is not like if a tree falls in the woods kinda thing.  what they cover and for how long they cover it depends if it fits their belief system and the narrative they want to push.  differing degrees of censorship if you will.

so their "social issues" got all better?  cool.  waiting for them to start doing the knee thingy for things like the 7 year old girl who got shot trick or treating or the under reported rapes by illegals;  especially of children.  many of the major inner cities have become war zones for innocent, law abiding people.  that would be a good one to kneel for, just not during the anthem.  maybe a moment of silence before or after the anthem

The knee "thingy" lead to this

https://www.ninersnation.com/2018/1/31/16956016/colin-kaepernick-donations-full-list-of-organizations-one-million-dollars

[Uncle Rico]

Long live KSK!

Long live Fire Joe Morgan

[MU82]

bingo!  so it is the so called "journalists" who control the narrative?  whatever they say or however they portray it, is gospel?  that's where the problem is.  the media coverage of "stuff" is not like if a tree falls in the woods kinda thing.  what they cover and for how long they cover it depends if it fits their belief system and the narrative they want to push.  differing degrees of censorship if you will.

so their "social issues" got all better?  cool.  waiting for them to start doing the knee thingy for things like the 7 year old girl who got shot trick or treating or the under reported rapes by illegals;  especially of children.  many of the major inner cities have become war zones for innocent, law abiding people.  that would be a good one to kneel for, just not during the anthem.  maybe a moment of silence before or after the anthem

In addition to completely misrepresenting what I said, this is quite a crazy diatribe, even for you.

Have a lovely weekend. Get some rest.

[The Sultan]

In addition to completely misrepresenting what I said, this is quite a crazy diatribe, even for you.

Have a lovely weekend. Get some rest.

It's what happens when you watch Fox News with your MAGA hat on.

[reinko]

It's what happens when you watch Fox News with your MAGA hat on.

Think he moved on to OAN awhile ago.

[Golden Avalanche]

bingo!  so it is the so called "journalists" who control the narrative?  whatever they say or however they portray it, is gospel?  that's where the problem is.  the media coverage of "stuff" is not like if a tree falls in the woods kinda thing.  what they cover and for how long they cover it depends if it fits their belief system and the narrative they want to push.  differing degrees of censorship if you will.

so their "social issues" got all better?  cool.  waiting for them to start doing the knee thingy for things like the 7 year old girl who got shot trick or treating or the under reported rapes by illegals;  especially of children.  many of the major inner cities have become war zones for innocent, law abiding people.  that would be a good one to kneel for, just not during the anthem.  maybe a moment of silence before or after the anthem

You take the phrase "total fucking whackjob" to a new level.

[Pakuni]

The knee "thingy" lead to this

https://www.ninersnation.com/2018/1/31/16956016/colin-kaepernick-donations-full-list-of-organizations-one-million-dollars

And this:

https://theundefeated.com/features/nfl-owners-approve-local-funding-social-justice-initiative-players-discuss-anthem-policy/

The idea that the NFL "made" the players stop kneeling is a fantasy.

[D'Lo Brown]

Think he moved on to OAN awhile ago.

I thought he got his news from clickbait articles and "FW: FW: FW: FW:" email chains.

[Uncle Rico]

And this:

https://theundefeated.com/features/nfl-owners-approve-local-funding-social-justice-initiative-players-discuss-anthem-policy/

The idea that the NFL "made" the players stop kneeling is a fantasy.

Just hate to see those unintended consequences