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Re: Joey applied for waiver
« Reply #150 on: September 29, 2019, 05:43:14 PM »
As for the tournament records of 5 seeds and 7 seeds, I wonder how much of that is statistical noise within the expected deviation range. In some cases, you may be comparing the 20th best team in the country to the 25th best. Probably not that big of a difference.
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Re: Joey applied for waiver
« Reply #151 on: September 29, 2019, 05:53:37 PM »
Another note on the 5/7 debate. Yes, a 7 has won a title, but it did so as a favorite. The only 7 to ever reach the title game ended up facing a lower seed in the Championship Game when 2014 UConn beat Kentucky. Every 5-seed to ever advance to the Championship Game has faced a 1-seed.
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Re: Joey applied for waiver
« Reply #152 on: September 29, 2019, 06:19:59 PM »
Another note on the 5/7 debate. Yes, a 7 has won a title, but it did so as a favorite. The only 7 to ever reach the title game ended up facing a lower seed in the Championship Game when 2014 UConn beat Kentucky. Every 5-seed to ever advance to the Championship Game has faced a 1-seed.

Yes. 5s have reached the final game 3 times as often as 7s. They've reached the FF twice as often.

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Re: Joey applied for waiver
« Reply #153 on: September 29, 2019, 06:23:29 PM »
As for the tournament records of 5 seeds and 7 seeds, I wonder how much of that is statistical noise within the expected deviation range. In some cases, you may be comparing the 20th best team in the country to the 25th best. Probably not that big of a difference.

There may not be much difference in the quality of the teams - but there is a significant difference in the number of games won (26). More proof that the 5s have the easier and preferable path.

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Re: Joey applied for waiver
« Reply #154 on: September 29, 2019, 06:32:09 PM »
I said I would rather be a 7 then a 5.

You said, the 5 is better for advancing to the 2nd, 3rd, and beyond then the 7 seed.  That was a false statement that you keep saying is factual....and you are exasperated because I called you out on your non factual statement.  Sorry about that, but what you said was false.  It is true up to a point, but unless BEYOND only means to a certain point (which it doesn’t) it is false.  I’m sorry you chose to use the word BEYOND.  When you said it, I knew it was off and responded back because I knew a 5 had never won it all, but a 6 and 7 had....so I knew immediately the BEYOND part of your statement was wrong.  You can be exasperated all you wish.  It is like your Hauser comment pressuring the ball in the Georgetown game.

Now you are trying to move the goalposts to suggest you didn’t really mean all of it, but most of it.  Uhm, no.

And yet you want me to man up and admit something I didn’t say was wrong, when you did?  That’s rich.

YES or NO...has a 5 seed ever held the NCAA trophy from the men’s basketball tournament?  Yes or No, has a 6 and a 7 seed done so?  Therefore, to date at least, being a 6 or 7 seed has actually proven you can go to the BEYOND and win it all....a 5 seed has not.

Sorry you are exasperated....next time say it differently and don’t get all spun up,when people ask you questions about YOUR words.

OK, so to you the NCAA tournament is a complete crapshoot.

But the fact that a 7-seed won that crapshoot exactly once in the decades that seeding has been done "proves" that it's "better" to be a 7-seed than a 5-seed, even though 5-seeds historically have been far more likely to reach the second weekend.

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Re: Joey applied for waiver
« Reply #155 on: September 29, 2019, 06:52:15 PM »
I said I would rather be a 7 then a 5.


And I retract my original statement in regards to this. "Beyond" was not correct in every instance so I retract that single word.

My intended response to this was (and is) this: yours is an uninformed opinion not supported by the facts. If, after having the facts pointed out to you you persist in this opinion, it's not just wrong. It's stubbornly pig headed.

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Re: Joey applied for waiver
« Reply #156 on: September 29, 2019, 08:36:39 PM »
I'd rather be a 7 seed than a 5 seed experiencing a locker room mutiny.

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Re: Joey applied for waiver
« Reply #157 on: November 05, 2019, 11:50:31 PM »
After all the posts and all writing and all the arguing, i still have no idea why they left. Did I miss something?

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Re: Joey applied for waiver
« Reply #158 on: November 06, 2019, 10:04:47 AM »
After all the posts and all writing and all the arguing, i still have no idea why they left. Did I miss something?

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« Reply #159 on: November 06, 2019, 10:11:33 AM »
Who is "they"?
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« Reply #160 on: November 06, 2019, 12:07:17 PM »
Who is "they"?

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« Reply #161 on: November 06, 2019, 12:10:53 PM »
Chicos Bail Bonds and Keefe.

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Re: Joey applied for waiver
« Reply #162 on: November 06, 2019, 12:16:06 PM »
Who is "they"?

Anyone who doesn't want to be constrained by the limits of contemporary language to box them into some normative stereotype.

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Re: Joey applied for waiver
« Reply #163 on: November 06, 2019, 12:30:46 PM »
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« Reply #164 on: November 06, 2019, 12:33:20 PM »
Supposedly, Joey's reason for leaving is included in his appeal.  FOIA it.
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Re: Joey applied for waiver
« Reply #165 on: November 06, 2019, 05:42:13 PM »
Supposedly, Joey's reason for leaving is included in his appeal.  FOIA it.

Cannot wait until that gets out, going to be more meat for some I am sure.
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Re: Joey applied for waiver
« Reply #166 on: November 06, 2019, 05:46:21 PM »
Cannot wait until that gets out, going to be more meat for some I am sure.

It will be fresh meat for both all sides.  Everyone will see something in it to reinforce their opinion.
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Re: Joey applied for waiver
« Reply #167 on: November 06, 2019, 06:35:22 PM »
It will be fresh meat for both all sides.  Everyone will see something in it to reinforce their opinion.

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Re: Joey applied for waiver
« Reply #168 on: November 10, 2019, 09:07:52 AM »
Seeing a lot of things on Twitter that point to Joey being eligible for the second half of the season.

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« Reply #169 on: November 10, 2019, 09:11:21 AM »
Seeing a lot of things on Twitter that point to Joey being eligible for the second half of the season.

Hope he goes for 50 against UW
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Re: Joey applied for waiver
« Reply #170 on: November 10, 2019, 09:24:47 AM »
Seeing a lot of things on Twitter that point to Joey being eligible for the second half of the season.

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Re: Joey applied for waiver
« Reply #171 on: November 10, 2019, 09:31:29 AM »
It would be odd to grant him a mid-season waiver. I wonder if it has to do with him initially enrolling in the second semester for his redshirt year. Strange decision if true. Will be interesting to see Badger heads explode when Potter doesn't get his.
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Re: Joey applied for waiver
« Reply #172 on: November 10, 2019, 09:33:19 AM »
It would be odd to grant him a mid-season waiver. I wonder if it has to do with him initially enrolling in the second semester for his redshirt year. Strange decision if true. Will be interesting to see Badger heads explode when Potter doesn't get his.

They’re making Micah Potter into the second coming of Bill Russell.  I expect 20-20 every game from him
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Re: Joey applied for waiver
« Reply #173 on: November 10, 2019, 09:42:49 AM »
Just one more small step toward the anarchy that is going to destroy college sports.

Should be in the Doom thread!
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Re: Joey applied for waiver
« Reply #174 on: November 10, 2019, 10:10:12 AM »
Supposedly, Joey's reason for leaving is included in his appeal.  FOIA it.

Already on it.
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