California to pass bill called "fair pay to play act"...to compensate players

[Galway Eagle]

I know right?  God forbid that a citizen state an opinion on a civic issue.

Not everyone deserves an opinion on every issue. They can have them, I have opinions on plenty of things that don't effect me. But I don't deserve to as I'm not a stakeholder in the issue so I don't go out and campaign for or against those issues.

That being said respond away, I'm done arguing this before it becomes too political.

[StillAWarrior]

We all went to college (I think?) and therefore understand at least half of the trade off happening. Someone who didn't has no idea.

And he played basketball at an elite level and opted to play professionally rather than attend college.  I think that qualifies him to voice an opinion on the matter at least as much as all of us are qualified by virtue of having attended college.

[The Sultan]

Not everyone deserves an opinion on every issue. They can have them, I have opinions on plenty of things that don't effect me. But I don't deserve to as I'm not a stakeholder in the issue so I don't go out and campaign for or against those issues.

But you can.  It's your right to do so.  That's the point.

[StillAWarrior]

It's possible, but I'm not convinced he's that level of talent. None of the reputable sources have a 2023 list yet, and while he's being indicated as a potential 5-star prospect, his jump to the NBA would be a long way off. Further, I think he's going to be evaluated more positively because he's James' son and because everyone has their eyes on him.

I do recall there being some buzz around Jordan's kids...until there wasn't.

[Pakuni]

I already stated above. I don't think he understands value of college, nor the full extent of athletic scholarship perks that the athletes get. I'm not saying I'm against this bill just that I'm against a celebrity, who is not a college stakeholder, using their platform to influence the outcome and public opinion.

Imagine if we applied this standard to every issue.

[brewcity77]

I do recall there being some buzz around Jordan's kids...until there wasn't.

Yup. By all reports, Bronny thus far is probably the best of the "basketball star kids" generation that includes some top-100s or fringe players, but as we've seen in the past, genetics alone does not a successful pro career make.

[StillAWarrior]

Yup. By all reports, Bronny thus far is probably the best of the "basketball star kids" generation that includes some top-100s or fringe players, but as we've seen in the past, genetics alone does not a successful pro career make.

I don't know...that Curry kid has done alright for himself.   

[brewcity77]

I don't know...that Curry kid has done alright for himself.   

Was Dell really a star, though? I see where you're coming from, but I don't think he was in the same stratosphere as Jordan, Wade, O'Neal, or Lebron.

[MU82]

The good news is that future Tim Tebows who believe it outrageous to profit off their own likeness could simply choose not to.
Problem solved.

Tebow -- another hypocrite heard from.

I'm guessing the average "salary" received by Tebow's teammates during his time at Florida was roughly $50,000 per man, and I'm also guessing he knew about most if not all of it but said nothing about the rampant cheating there.

Of course, that didn't "change what's special about college football" in Tebow's eyes because it was -- and is -- typical of college sham-amateur football.

[StillAWarrior]

Was Dell really a star, though?

Of course not.  It was a joke.

[brewcity77]

Of course not.  It was a joke.

Clearly the genes passing from son to father doesn't work any better than father to son

[Cheeks]

LOL, but we can discuss it on a message board?  He can't discuss a law under consideration in his own state of residence?

Silly.

lol.....about as silly as when women say males cannot pass laws that.....

Oh nevermind

[Cheeks]

The good news is that future Tim Tebows who believe it outrageous to profit off their own likeness could simply choose not to.
Problem solved.

But as he points out, it ruins what it is all about.  No longer playing for school. Changing we to me.  Glad he spoke out, cuz you know a bunch of anonymous basketball coaches in a poll said otherwise.

More importantly, another great player that wasn't paid despite the nonsense in public "they all get paid, they are all cheating"

[Cheeks]

Tebow -- another hypocrite heard from.

I'm guessing the average "salary" received by Tebow's teammates during his time at Florida was roughly $50,000 per man, and I'm also guessing he knew about most if not all of it but said nothing about the rampant cheating there.

Of course, that didn't "change what's special about college football" in Tebow's eyes because it was -- and is -- typical of college sham-amateur football.

So the best player in college football was not paid and the others were....do you have some proof to back this up?

[79Warrior]

So the best player in college football was not paid and the others were....do you have some proof to back this up?

Do you have any proof one way or the other? Of course not, no one does.

[The Sultan]

But as he points out, it ruins what it is all about.  No longer playing for school. Changing we to me.

Put away your cape Captain Hyperbole.

Anyway this pretty much mirrors what I think about Tebow's comments.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnist/dan-wolken/2019/09/13/tim-tebows-argument-against-paying-college-athletes-laughable/2314957001/

[WhiteTrash]

Who cares how good his son is.  He has every right to make comments because...well...it's a democracy.

Still very silly.

Democracy and free speech don't have any direct correlation, but we get your point. 

[Pakuni]

lol.....about as silly as when women say males cannot pass laws that.....

Oh nevermind

So you agree with people who  say that?

[WhiteTrash]

Put away your cape Captain Hyperbole.

Anyway this pretty much mirrors what I think about Tebow's comments.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnist/dan-wolken/2019/09/13/tim-tebows-argument-against-paying-college-athletes-laughable/2314957001/

I'm not a fan of Tebow. He was and is still given a bigger platform than he deserves.

That said, that op-ed was pretty shabby and full of hyperbole itself.

"College athletics has already been corrupted by money and greed on every level"......Can that author please give examples of this at the DII and DIII levels? How about non-revenue producing DI sports?

"Tebow — sees college football as a citadel of chastity in a materialistic world."... Again I'm no Tebow fan but I can't put those words in his mouth. Until he says something like that, the author is taking way too much artistic license.

[The Sultan]

I'm not a fan of Tebow. He was and is still given a bigger platform than he deserves.

That said, that op-ed was pretty shabby and full of hyperbole itself.

"College athletics has already been corrupted by money and greed on every level"......Can that author please give examples of this at the DII and DIII levels? How about non-revenue producing DI sports?

"Tebow — sees college football as a citadel of chastity in a materialistic world."... Again I'm no Tebow fan but I can't put those words in his mouth. Until he says something like that, the author is taking way too much artistic license.

I don't see Tebow saying that either. "Materialistic" has way too many syllables.

Lame humor aside, I think by "all levels" he means coaches, ADs, etc.

[WhiteTrash]

I don't see Tebow saying that either. "Materialistic" has way too many syllables.

Lame humor aside, I think by "all levels" he means coaches, ADs, etc.

LOL. Agreed about Tebow. Funny stuff.

As for the "all levels" assertion, I hope you are right otherwise this guy is the king of the hyperbole captains. I suppose I shouldn't set the bar too high when reading a USA Today op-ed.

[MU82]

So the best player in college football was not paid and the others were....do you have some proof to back this up?

First of all, I made it clear I was speculating.

Second, I think you're right: Tebow was getting paid, too. Thanks for helping me realize it.

[Cheeks]

Do you have any proof one way or the other? Of course not, no one does.

I'm not the one saying Tebow is a hypocrite and leveling the charge.  As a former journalist I would expect MU82 to have some evidence before making such a claim. 

[Cheeks]

First of all, I made it clear I was speculating.

Second, I think you're right: Tebow was getting paid, too. Thanks for helping me realize it.

You called him a hypocrite, you weren't speculating at all.

[Cheeks]

Put away your cape Captain Hyperbole.

Anyway this pretty much mirrors what I think about Tebow's comments.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnist/dan-wolken/2019/09/13/tim-tebows-argument-against-paying-college-athletes-laughable/2314957001/

Tebow played college athletics at the highest levels.

Dan Wolken....writer and epic joke.  That very article...says greed has taken over at every level of college sports.  Yup, that college field hockey is just swimming in greed...same with bowling....soccer....D2...D3.  Of covering Memphis as he did probably biased him to no end.