collapse

Resources

Recent Posts

Recruiting as of 4/15/25 by MuMark
[Today at 03:09:00 PM]


Proposed rule changes( coaching challenges) by MU82
[Today at 03:00:42 PM]


OT MU adds swimming program by The Sultan
[Today at 12:10:04 PM]


Ethan Johnston to Marquette by Zog from Margo
[Today at 09:43:17 AM]


Pope Leo XIV by tower912
[May 08, 2025, 09:06:36 PM]


2025-26 Schedule by Galway Eagle
[May 08, 2025, 01:47:03 PM]

Please Register - It's FREE!

The absolute only thing required for this FREE registration is a valid e-mail address. We keep all your information confidential and will NEVER give or sell it to anyone else.
Login to get rid of this box (and ads) , or signup NOW!


Billy Hoyle

A one loss Minnesota would have beaten Ohio State so both Minny and Bama would likely get in. That said, Minny isn't beating OSU
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

The Sultan

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 24, 2019, 10:09:11 PM
A one loss Minnesota would have beaten Ohio State so both Minny and Bama would likely get in. That said, Minny isn't beating OSU

OSU will get in with a championship game loss. A one loss Minnesota team is more deserving than one loss Alabama but that's not happening.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Mr. Nielsen

Quote from: jesmu84 on November 24, 2019, 01:49:45 PM
8 team playoff. P5 champions + 3 at large (determined by committee). Boom, done.
I would be for that format. Yet, I hear helmet heads against that. "We can't have a 9-4 Big Ten Champ Northwstern in the playoff."
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

Cheeks

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 25, 2019, 04:15:58 AM
OSU will get in with a championship game loss. A one loss Minnesota team is more deserving than one loss Alabama but that's not happening.

Why, because it has been forever?  Bama plays Minnesota...who wins?  Bama, going away.

Uw Madison extension beats Minnesota this week.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

The Sultan

Because Minnesota's two best wins (OSU and PSU), and arguably even their third best win (UW), would be better than any of Alabama's.  Right now Real Time RPI has Minnesota at 11 and Alabama at 7.  If UM beats UW and OSU, and Bama only beats Auburn, they would be ahead.

And if Minnesota can beat OSU, they can most certainly beat Alabama.  (It doesn't matter because they won't beat OSU in my opinion.)
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Cheeks

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 25, 2019, 10:43:08 AM
Because Minnesota's two best wins (OSU and PSU), and arguably even their third best win (UW), would be better than any of Alabama's.  Right now Real Time RPI has Minnesota at 11 and Alabama at 7.  If UM beats UW and OSU, and Bama only beats Auburn, they would be ahead.

And if Minnesota can beat OSU, they can most certainly beat Alabama.  (It doesn't matter because they won't beat OSU in my opinion.)

If Minny beats OSU, fine...it isn't going to happen so I'm not going to worry about it.  I also believe that most in this country would say putting Minny and Bama on the field together, Minny is going to lose.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

The Sultan

Quote from: Cheeks on November 25, 2019, 12:25:44 PM
If Minny beats OSU, fine...it isn't going to happen so I'm not going to worry about it.  I also believe that most in this country would say putting Minny and Bama on the field together, Minny is going to lose.


Well of course they're going to say that.  *I* would say that.  But that's not what the Committee is supposed to do. 

https://collegefootballplayoff.com/sports/2016/10/24/selection-committee-protocol.aspx

A one loss, Big Ten Champion should make it over a one loss, SEC West runner-up.  Especially if it gets to that point, their strength of schedules would be relatively the same.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU Fan in Connecticut

No mention of another Yale-Harvard rivalry football classic ending with a 17-pt 4th Qtr comeback by Yale and then winning in the in 2nd OT practically in the dark. (The Yale Bowl does not have lights after 105 years of use (and they're actually coming with a bubble next year).)
The game also included a 1-hour delay due to an on-field climate change protest that saw actor Sam Waterson arrested among others.

Billy Hoyle

absolutely scathing editorial and another story on fed up bootsters on Rutgers after they chased off their #1 choice for the HC job (who also happens to be the only coach in the modern era to be successful there). Though even if they remain a bottom feeder program Delaney and the Big Ten will be happy with the BTN money they are bringing in.

https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/2019/11/white-flag-not-white-smoke-rutgers-kills-big-time-football-dream-with-greg-schiano-fiasco-politi.html

https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/2019/11/rutgers-football-boosters-say-pat-hobbs-is-to-blame-for-breakdown-in-greg-schiano-deal.html
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

MUBurrow

I don't doubt that Rutgers athletic department is a travesty, but I also can't imagine being upset that my donations won't go to pay Greg Schiano.  I can't imagine what its like to be a Rutgers booster, I guess is what I'm saying.

The Sultan

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 25, 2019, 01:23:38 PM
absolutely scathing editorial and another story on fed up bootsters on Rutgers after they chased off their #1 choice for the HC job (who also happens to be the only coach in the modern era to be successful there). Though even if they remain a bottom feeder program Delaney and the Big Ten will be happy with the BTN money they are bringing in.

https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/2019/11/white-flag-not-white-smoke-rutgers-kills-big-time-football-dream-with-greg-schiano-fiasco-politi.html

https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/2019/11/rutgers-football-boosters-say-pat-hobbs-is-to-blame-for-breakdown-in-greg-schiano-deal.html


Here's my feeling.  Schiano was undoubtedly successful in the Rutgers scheme of things.  He finished his career there one game over .500 playing a much weaker schedule than they face now.  But I don't think he's a great coach.  I don't think he is what they need moving forward. 

They need a young, hungry guy with connections to the area.  They need their Matt Rhule (who Rutgers could have had when they hired Chris Ash).  Now I have no idea who that could be...
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Cheeks

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 25, 2019, 01:23:38 PM
absolutely scathing editorial and another story on fed up bootsters on Rutgers after they chased off their #1 choice for the HC job (who also happens to be the only coach in the modern era to be successful there). Though even if they remain a bottom feeder program Delaney and the Big Ten will be happy with the BTN money they are bringing in.

https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/2019/11/white-flag-not-white-smoke-rutgers-kills-big-time-football-dream-with-greg-schiano-fiasco-politi.html

https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/2019/11/rutgers-football-boosters-say-pat-hobbs-is-to-blame-for-breakdown-in-greg-schiano-deal.html

Classic example if you are going to fire someone the backup plan better be rock solid. 
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Cheeks

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on November 25, 2019, 12:54:20 PM
No mention of another Yale-Harvard rivalry football classic ending with a 17-pt 4th Qtr comeback by Yale and then winning in the in 2nd OT practically in the dark. (The Yale Bowl does not have lights after 105 years of use (and they're actually coming with a bubble next year).)
The game also included a 1-hour delay due to an on-field climate change protest that saw actor Sam Waterson arrested among others.

I'm glad for the arrests and anytime these crazies do this to piss off more people, I say keep on doing it...loudly and proudly...keep on doing it for all to see.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

wadesworld

Quote from: Cheeks on November 25, 2019, 02:51:37 PM
I'm glad for the arrests and anytime these crazies do this to piss off more people, I say keep on doing it...loudly and proudly...keep on doing it for all to see.

You should've driven your dope ass big, loud, environmentally unfriendly pickup right onto that field and revved that engine to get all that exhaust into the air right in front of those crazies. Put them in their place.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Cheeks on November 25, 2019, 02:50:22 PM
Classic example if you are going to fire someone the backup plan better be rock solid.

they had to fire the previous guy but man, when you float immediately who you're after and screw it up then you really look incompetent.

Nobody is going to cry for Ash to return but any hire is going to be "not Schiano."
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: Cheeks on November 25, 2019, 02:51:37 PM
I'm glad for the arrests and anytime these crazies do this to piss off more people, I say keep on doing it...loudly and proudly...keep on doing it for all to see.

Actually all was good.  It was jointly planned between Harvard & Yale students and alumni.  Waterson is a Yale grad and was asked to participate.
Police gave time for those to decide to leave.  Most protesters walked off after about an hour; those who remained were charged with misdemeanor disorderly conduct.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on November 25, 2019, 04:17:16 PM
Actually all was good.  It was jointly planned between Harvard & Yale students and alumni.  Waterson is a Yale grad and was asked to participate.
Police gave time for those to decide to leave.  Most protesters walked off after about an hour; those who remained were charged with misdemeanor disorderly conduct.

Didn't see an issue with it.  It's not like there was any destruction of property or violence like when groups such as the Proud Boys and Antifa get together to act like savages.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

Cheeks

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on November 25, 2019, 04:17:16 PM
Actually all was good.  It was jointly planned between Harvard & Yale students and alumni.  Waterson is a Yale grad and was asked to participate.
Police gave time for those to decide to leave.  Most protesters walked off after about an hour; those who remained were charged with misdemeanor disorderly conduct.

Nuisance.  Game was on tv, people make plans for game to start and be home at a specific time.  I just hope they are all living the chaste climate life they want to push on everyone, which I will bet my house they most certainly are not.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Cheeks on November 25, 2019, 06:41:15 PM
Nuisance.  Game was on tv, people make plans for game to start and be home at a specific time.  I just hope they are all living the chaste climate life they want to push on everyone, which I will bet my house they most certainly are not.

Maybe in soccer where you know each half is going to be 45 minutes (plus around 8-10 minutes of stoppage time) and half-time 15, but football always has variables when it comes to the length of the game.  Style of play (I went to a college game between two spread offense teams and because of the number of passes and incompletions the game lasted over four hours), overtime, scoring, etc.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

The Sultan

Yes.  God forbid that the youth protest something important to them because people could be nuisanced attending a sporting event.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Lennys Tap

#495
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 25, 2019, 10:43:08 AM
Because Minnesota's two best wins (OSU and PSU), and arguably even their third best win (UW), would be better than any of Alabama's.  Right now Real Time RPI has Minnesota at 11 and Alabama at 7.  If UM beats UW and OSU, and Bama only beats Auburn, they would be ahead.

And if Minnesota can beat OSU, they can most certainly beat Alabama.  (It doesn't matter because they won't beat OSU in my opinion.)

I know RPI is virtually worthless in CBB. Honest question: Is it any better for CFB?

Sagerin has OSU, Clemson, Alabama and LSU as his top 4. Minnesota is 20th. Seems about right.

Jables1604

Quote from: Cheeks on November 25, 2019, 06:41:15 PM
Nuisance.  Game was on tv, people make plans for game to start and be home at a specific time.  I just hope they are all living the chaste climate life they want to push on everyone, which I will bet my house they most certainly are not.
What kind of a share does Harvard-Yale do?

Mr. Nielsen

Quote from: Jables1604 on November 25, 2019, 08:22:51 PM
What kind of a share does Harvard-Yale do?
The game didn't rate in the top 150. So, I don't have a number.
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

Billy Hoyle

#498
Quote from: Jables1604 on November 25, 2019, 08:22:51 PM
What kind of a share does Harvard-Yale do?

are we talking ratings or arrogance and sense of entitlement?  That latter is through the roof.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

Cheeks

Quote from: Jables1604 on November 25, 2019, 08:22:51 PM
What kind of a share does Harvard-Yale do?

Low, but for a person that has an interest in watching it...matters to them...right?  The stadium has no lights, the game went to 2OT, you could hardly see at the end of the game. 

Sunset was 4:26pm, the game ended at 4:38pm with fans complaining you could not see the action at that point.  Player safety etc.

"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Previous topic - Next topic