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JWags85

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on September 15, 2019, 09:39:16 AM
Today's thoughts:

**I was wrong about Clay Helton
**Chip Kelly might be a worse coach at this point
**Alabama's defense isn't what it usually is
**Ohio State may be the best team not named Clemson

What was your thought on Helton?  That he was getting a bad rap and is just fine?  I think he needed to finish top 20 and finish top 2 in the Pac 12 to save his job, and I didn't think that was gonna happen even with Daniels and before the BYU mess.

Chip Kelly just looks like he's out of ideas.  He's an offensive genius who brought forth a whole new style and way of looking at offense.  But everyone has adopted and adapted and he just looks like he got caught up in the wash.  And doesn't seem all too willing to evolve.  Plus he doesn't have the horses.

The Sultan

Quote from: JWags85 on September 16, 2019, 10:35:50 AM
What was your thought on Helton?  That he was getting a bad rap and is just fine?

I thought he could save his job with a good season, but losing to BYU likely means he doesn't have much of a chance with a new AD coming in.


Quote from: JWags85 on September 16, 2019, 10:35:50 AM
Chip Kelly just looks like he's out of ideas.  He's an offensive genius who brought forth a whole new style and way of looking at offense.  But everyone has adopted and adapted and he just looks like he got caught up in the wash.  And doesn't seem all too willing to evolve.  Plus he doesn't have the horses.

He's like the Mike Martz of college football.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Mr. Nielsen

--Some key games this weekend...
Friday, September, 20th
Utah at USC 8:00 pm FS1

Saturday, September, 21st
Michigan at Wisconsin 11:00 am FOX
Auburn at Texas A&M 2:30 pm CBS
Washington at BYU 2:30 pm (ABC or ESPN2) 
Oklahoma State at Texas 6:30 pm ABC
Notre Dame at Georgia 7:00 pm CBS
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

tower912

The unthinkable.   I am watching college football and enjoying Wisconsin beating up on somebody.     I need to sit down in a quiet place and reboot.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

wadesworld


jsglow

Epic arse kicking at the Camp.  Outstanding.

Cheeks

When does Uw-Madison extension play a real school this year?  Three warm-ups plus the Big Ten west which is a joke each year.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

Jockey


Mr. Nielsen

Off a bye. Michigan looks lost. No run game. Slow on defense.
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

jsglow

Quote from: Cheeks on September 21, 2019, 12:36:36 PM
When does Uw-Madison extension play a real school this year?  Three warm-ups plus the Big Ten west which is a joke each year.

Please.  While they were significantly overrated last year, this year they look like a genuine playoff threat.  And Coan is a tremendous upgrade at the QB spot.

Cheeks

Quote from: jsglow on September 21, 2019, 01:13:55 PM
Please.  While they were significantly overrated last year, this year they look like a genuine playoff threat.  And Coan is a tremendous upgrade at the QB spot.

All may be true, but they play a joke schedule every year and seem to not be able to win the big games agains the elite teams....until they finally do, that's the perception.  Other than OSU this year, this schedule is an absolute farce as it almost always is...then they wonder why they cannot win against the big boys after playing marshmallows all year.

Today is another example of why there should be no preseason rankings for football.  Meat chicken is awful and Coach Khacki looks lost.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

wadesworld

#112
Quote from: Cheeks on September 21, 2019, 01:20:25 PM
All may be true, but they play a joke schedule every year and seem to not be able to win the big games agains the elite teams....until they finally do, that's the perception.  Other than OSU this year, this schedule is an absolute farce as it almost always is...then they wonder why they cannot win against the big boys after playing marshmallows all year.

Today is another example of why there should be no preseason rankings for football.  Meat chicken is awful and Coach Khacki looks lost.

They play Michigan, Michigan State, Iowa, and Ohio State. Who else should they have to play that they're avoiding? Would adding PSU make their schedule go from "playing marshmallows all year" to a legit schedule?

4everwarriors

Maebee Jim oughta ring up bil, Tommy, four sum defensive strategy help, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

The Sultan

Quote from: wadesworld on September 21, 2019, 01:42:14 PM
They play Michigan, Michigan State, Iowa, and Ohio State. Who else should they have to play that they're avoiding? Would adding PSU make their schedule go from "playing marshmallows all year" to a legit schedule?

In conference yes. They aren't playing anyone worthwhile out of conference.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

wadesworld

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on September 21, 2019, 01:47:27 PM
In conference yes. They aren't playing anyone worthwhile out of conference.

But why would they? If they play anyone, even Clemson or Bama, and lose they miss out on the Playoffs even if they win out. But if they play nobody and win all their B1G games they go to the Playoffs. There's no reward for playing someone good out of conference.

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Wisconsin plays Notre Dame in 2020 & 2021.  Alabama is scheduled for 2024 & 2025.

jsglow

#117
Quote from: Cheeks on September 21, 2019, 01:20:25 PM
All may be true, but they play a joke schedule every year and seem to not be able to win the big games agains the elite teams....until they finally do, that's the perception.  Other than OSU this year, this schedule is an absolute farce as it almost always is...then they wonder why they cannot win against the big boys after playing marshmallows all year.

Today is another example of why there should be no preseason rankings for football.  Meat chicken is awful and Coach Khacki looks lost.

IDK, LSU recently; Notre Dame upcoming.  They've also won 5 straight bowl games.  Maybe they should schedule the Pac 12.  Real football.   ::)

wadesworld

BYU and Bama within the past few years as well.

The Sultan

Quote from: wadesworld on September 21, 2019, 01:49:37 PM
But why would they? If they play anyone, even Clemson or Bama, and lose they miss out on the Playoffs even if they win out. But if they play nobody and win all their B1G games they go to the Playoffs. There's no reward for playing someone good out of conference.


Wisconsin has been good with adding quality non conference teams lately.  But my guess is that they declined to do so this year due to Michigan and Ohio State being on their schedule.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

jsglow

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on September 21, 2019, 03:35:24 PM

Wisconsin has been good with adding quality non conference teams lately.  But my guess is that they declined to do so this year due to Michigan and Ohio State being on their schedule.

How far ahead do they typically schedule?  I mean in basketball, it is not uncommon to tweak the quality of your non-con based on the perceived talent on your own team.

Cheeks

Quote from: wadesworld on September 21, 2019, 01:42:14 PM
They play Michigan, Michigan State, Iowa, and Ohio State. Who else should they have to play that they're avoiding? Would adding PSU make their schedule go from "playing marshmallows all year" to a legit schedule?

Michigan sucks. Iowa, please.  The west is a joke every damn year.  They get 5 wins before playing a game because of their division.   Let's put it this way, would you rather be in the east or the west?  There is only one right answer on this.  Their out of conference schedule is laughable as is usually the case.

I think they are a good team, and have a Heisman candidate back....and they will be highly ranked all year because of the soft schedule, but until they finally win a meaningful game on the national stage that's where I am.

"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

wadesworld

Quote from: Cheeks on September 21, 2019, 03:47:47 PM
Michigan sucks. Iowa, please.  The west is a joke every damn year.  They get 5 wins before playing a game because of their division.   Let's put it this way, would you rather be in the east or the west?  There is only one right answer on this.  Their out of conference schedule is laughable as is usually the case.

I think they are a good team, and have a Heisman candidate back....and they will be highly ranked all year because of the soft schedule, but until they finally win a meaningful game on the national stage that's where I am.

Considering they play the three best teams in the west this year I guess you'd just cry about it even if they were in the east, given that you're crying about it now.

They just won a meaningful game on a national stage.

jsglow

Quote from: Cheeks on September 21, 2019, 03:47:47 PM
Michigan sucks. Iowa, please.  The west is a joke every damn year.  They get 5 wins before playing a game because of their division.   Let's put it this way, would you rather be in the east or the west?  There is only one right answer on this.  Their out of conference schedule is laughable as is usually the case.

I think they are a good team, and have a Heisman candidate back....and they will be highly ranked all year because of the soft schedule, but until they finally win a meaningful game on the national stage that's where I am.

Are they Alabama, Clemson or Ohio State, no.  Other than that, I guess you just don't like them.  That's fine.

Cheeks

Quote from: jsglow on September 21, 2019, 02:18:16 PM
IDK, LSU recently; Notre Dame upcoming.  They've also won 5 straight bowl games.  Maybe they should schedule the Pac 12.  Real football.   ::)

PAC 12 is terrible.  Bowl games are sweet and nice....Pinstripe Bowl...ok.  Cotton against Western Michigan...yummy dessert.  An 8-6 USC team.

Come on

They have also been in 3 of the last 5 Big Ten championship games and lost them all, including one by the score of 59-0.  They did manage to beat an overrated Nebraska team one year.  If they want the love, when a game that matters.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

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