Airing of Grievences Thread

[Mutaman]

Some men lament the intake being too close to the exhaust.
But that’s a beef with the Designer...er, designer.

Nice effort by that Northern Dancer colt (several generations removed) winning the Travers.

[warriorchick]

Hmmm...sounds suspiciously like, “it’s not you; it’s me.”  She sounds very kind.

I can't think of a more insulting reason for a woman to leave you than "I miss Canada".

[tower912]

Guru, good luck in your search.

[#UnleashSean]

Hands down the best scoop thread of the year. I've been laughing for a good 2 hours.

[warriorchick]

For the record, I have no issue with the word "panties".

[Cheeks]

Cheeks, the point of the ignore button is to ignore the person.  Sniping at them when someone else happens to quote them kind of defeats the purpose.  For the love of all that is good, ignore the people you should be ignoring on here.  You know who they are.  And, thankfully, some of them know who you are and are ignoring you.  It'll do you good.  It'll do all of us good.

Stillwarrior, isn’t the bigger question why politics are allowed?  I thought it wasn’t...or is it?  Which is it? What’s the policy?  I’m fine following the rules, but what are the rules?

[Cheeks]

And instead of bi*tching about their posts, report them to the moderators.

I did, and nothing happened.

[Cheeks]

You work with Chicos?

I never bring it up at work...ever.

[muguru]

For the record, I have no issue with the word "panties".

You're a good woman warrior...you shouldn't have a problem with it, no one should...that's what they are called. Store advertisements say it, the packages you buy say it etc. That's like someone having a problem with it being called an "orange" so they just call it "that orange colored fruit". Makes no sense to me.

[StillAWarrior]

Stillwarrior, isn’t the bigger question why politics are allowed?  I thought it wasn’t...or is it?  Which is it? What’s the policy?  I’m fine following the rules, but what are the rules?

No, that’s not the bigger question. It’s pretty clear that politics is allowed, even though they’re not.

I think the bigger question is why you’re incapable of simply ignoring people who love nothing more than yanking your chain. Even when you have them on ignore, apparently.

[NorthernDancerColt]

Nice effort by that Northern Dancer colt (several generations removed) winning the Travers.

People discounted the trouble he had in the Derby, or felt he wasn’t bred to get the 1  and 1/4 Miles...but hey....
Code of Honor has some serious inbreeding to Northern Dancer...interesting cross to see it in the same corresponding  spot on the pedigree. The Dancer was both his maternal and paternal great grandsire.

Marcus Hersh of the DRF feels that Travers day was a severe outside bias....I’m not so sure. There’s nothing worse than a prevailing ridiculous inside speed bias a la Churchill Downs, so I never bat an eye when outside closers prevail. The funniest thing I heard on Travers Day, other than the guy who walked up to the window at my OTB and plopped down $35,ooo to Win on LookinAtBikinis......this one dude is stumbling drunk to the window and, in his best Foster Brooks imitation asks the teller....”when is the tra-VERSE going off?”  The main teller at this OTB is the nicest guy in the world and goes out of his way to explain to novices how to place a bet....but he just burst out laughing at the poor guy.

[StillAWarrior]

If I ask someone are you more "girly" or more tomboy. I overwhelming get more "tomboy" responses than "girly" responses. And of course everyone's definition of "girly" is different. Then I have met some who say they are far more "girly". Except when I start to spend time with them, and observe their mannerisms etc, and they are certainly not "girly" by my definition anyway. Sometimes yes, they are, but not all the time.

I realize this is semantics, but I feel there is a pretty big difference between being a “self proclaimed Tom boy” and choosing option “B” when being asked to choose between “girly” and “tomboy.”  Being “self proclaimed” implies they choose the label, not that they selected one of the two pigeonholes you offered.

And how the hell does this come up in conversation?  Is this your go-to icebreaker?  Is this before or after you discuss their preferred term for their undergarments?

[Cheeks]

No, that’s not the bigger question. It’s pretty clear that politics is allowed, even though they’re not.

I think the bigger question is why you’re incapable of simply ignoring people who love nothing more than yanking your chain. Even when you have them on ignore, apparently.

Well because that doesn’t seem to be the case because it is not allowed as some threads are locked or posts removed, while others are allowed.  I don’t think  he was yanking my chain at all, he wasn’t talking to me but to someone else.  Just trying to understand the policy.  Seems fair especially when two mods wrote to me in the last month to stop political posts and yet here those posts appear in droves and nothing happens.  Seems a fair question to ask.  In the meantime, I will continue to abide by their wishes and not do politics....hoping the pinned post that says politics are not allowed would actually be the case, similar to the steps Disney and ESPN have taken.

Ignoring those posters is not a problem, seeking clarity is all I ask.

[Galway Eagle]

I'm glad you brought this up Galway, because this is a major grievance of mine...Believe me, I am not singling you out at all, but it does demonstrate how far we still need to go as a society, and quite frankly how hypocritical we still are. The times we live in now, we are told we should love and accept all...men with men, women with women, Transgender etc. They are all people, and as long as it doesn't affect us, what difference does it make. Yet, your point about an older man with a younger woman as you call it "creepy". You are far from the only one that feels that way...I would ask why?? If two people are happy together, why should you, me or anyone judge?? If a man is 45 and he is with a 21 yr old girl, most in society these days would say just what you did "it's creepy". But aren't we told, love is love?? If they are happy together, shouldn't that be all that matters?? How is that any different then a man with a man, or a woman with a woman etc?? It shouldn't be. It's hypocritical for us a society to be so accepting of some things that were at least at one time not a society norm, but still very judgmental of other things that for whatever reason still doesn't seem to be accepted as a societal norm like the other things are.

Where we all get really hypocritical is if that woman was 31 and the man was 55(still the same 24 year age difference), then most people would seem to accept that. Seems very bizarre to me. Would we feel the same way if a woman was 55 with a 21 year old kid?? I'm not sure we would.

It seems to me that people think couples with large age gaps can't possibly love each other. That there has to be something else to it rather then two people just being in love. This is where we still have a long ways to go as a society IMO.

My dad has been married twice...the second time he married a girl that he was/is 27 years older than. He was 51 then. At the time, a lot of people were judgmental and thought just like you said "that's creepy". But now that he's 78...guess what?? All of a sudden no one cares, yet the same 27 year age gap exists. I think that's VERY bizarre, especially since they are happy together.

My philosophy has always been based on the children. I recently read an article about a girl who's in her early 20s and is going to have a baby with her best friends dad who's in his 60s. It just doesn't seem fair for that child to be raised by someone who's likely hitting alzeheimers or dementia in the near future.

You do point out that hypocrisy of mine as I'm one for supporting most relationships (not down with the two spouses thing either) so fair play to you on that.

[muguru]

I realize this is semantics, but I feel there is a pretty big difference between being a “self proclaimed Tom boy” and choosing option “B” when being asked to choose between “girly” and “tomboy.”  Being “self proclaimed” implies they choose the label, not that they selected one of the two pigeonholes you offered.

And how the hell does this come up in conversation?  Is this your go-to icebreaker?  Is this before or after you discuss their preferred term for their undergarments?

It comes up because it's one of the first things I ask...I figure if I'm not going to be interested I want to know right away rather than waste her or my time. To me it's no different than if someone asks you "so do you smoke or drink"?? Or " what do you do for a living"?? Everyone has preferences for what hey want/don't want in a partner. Everyone has deal breakers, things they like and don't like. For me, being "girly" is a top priority.And just because they aren't, doesn't mean they aren't a great person, it just simply means there's not going to be a match for me, and I wouldn't be happy with her, and thus because of that, she wouldn't be happy either.  Just a personal preference. Sadly, it sure seems like the TRUE girly girl(by my definition), has gone the way of the dinosaur.

[StillAWarrior]

Ignoring those posters is not a problem

The proof is in the pudding.

Whether you think the rules are fairly enforced or not, you can choose to ignore people and not respond to every single provocation. Every. Single. One.

[Cheeks]

It comes up because it's one of the first things I ask...I figure if I'm not going to be interested I want to know right away rather than waste her or my time. To me it's no different than if someone asks you "so do you smoke or drink"?? Or " what do you do for a living"?? Everyone has preferences for what hey want/don't want in a partner. Everyone has deal breakers, things they like and don't like. For me, being "girly" is a top priority.And just because they aren't, doesn't mean they aren't a great person, it just simply means there's not going to be a match for me, and I wouldn't be happy with her, and thus because of that, she wouldn't be happy either.  Just a personal preference. Sadly, it sure seems like the TRUE girly girl(by my definition), has gone the way of the dinosaur.

My wife is both.  She can be old school, very feminine or tough as nails ars kicker.  Youngest of 9 so she was raised old school Midwest....love her to death.  Very lucky.  I have largely taken care of her, but she recently went back to work now that our last child is almost done with high school. 

[muguru]

My wife is both.  She can be old school, very feminine or tough as nails ars kicker.  Youngest of 9 so she was raised old school Midwest....love her to death.  Very lucky.  I have largely taken care of her, but she recently went back to work now that our last child is almost done with high school.

Personally I have found that a vast majority(but obviously not all) fall into the category of your wife...they can be and are both. There is zero wrong with that. Quite honestly, I also think a vast majority of men, prefer that. Also nothing wrong with that. Just for me, as far as what makes me happiest, is if she's 100% feminine. I think you'd be surprised(or maybe you wouldn't be) just how few of those women really exist now days.

[Cheeks]

The proof is in the pudding.

Whether you think the rules are fairly enforced or not, you can choose to ignore people and not respond to every single provocation. Every. Single. One.

I don’t and can happily provide umpteen examples when I let it go and didn’t say a word, let alone every single one....repeat...every. Single. One.

Plane about to depart, good night.

[MU82]

Hands down the best scoop thread of the year. I've been laughing for a good 2 hours.

I absolutely was thinking the same thing.

What a thread. My jaw hurts from smiling too much. I have learned a lot about some very interesting Scoopers.

I thank the mods for keeping it open.

[wadesworld]

Well because that doesn’t seem to be the case because it is not allowed as some threads are locked or posts removed, while others are allowed.  I don’t think  he was yanking my chain at all, he wasn’t talking to me but to someone else.  Just trying to understand the policy.  Seems fair especially when two mods wrote to me in the last month to stop political posts and yet here those posts appear in droves and nothing happens.  Seems a fair question to ask.  In the meantime, I will continue to abide by their wishes and not do politics....hoping the pinned post that says politics are not allowed would actually be the case, similar to the steps Disney and ESPN have taken.

Ignoring those posters is not a problem, seeking clarity is all I ask.

It’s probably because most posters here haven’t been banned under multiple usernames and continued to show back up. And probably because the one poster who is the common denominator in all these different political threads is the same poster who’s been banned for similar posting habits under multiple usernames.

Just a guess?

But you are just treated so unfairly around here.

[Mutaman]

People discounted the trouble he had in the Derby, or felt he wasn’t bred to get the 1  and 1/4 Miles...but hey....
Code of Honor has some serious inbreeding to Northern Dancer...interesting cross to see it in the same corresponding  spot on the pedigree. The Dancer was both his maternal and paternal great grandsire.

Small horse- Big Heart.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Far from perfect...but, the basic jist of it is she was/is from Canada, and her homesickness just got the best of her. She really struggled with it.

Was she from the Niagara Falls area?

[rocket surgeon]

Which is fair, you're entitled to your beliefs just as he is. But that still has nothing to do with revealing his character. A child molesting priest could capitalize the G all the time and and an atheist who refuses to could spend their life helping those same victims. Would you respond to the atheist that it reveals something negative about their character and look the other way about the priest because of something as trivial as a capitalization?

  instead of peeling back the layers, we are going right for the core-when someone is trying to demeaningly chide you you, you go right for a perceived weak spot.  it may not be the most rational of arguments, but standards are thrown to the wind.  the example you lay out eagle, doesn't give one much of choice, but your point is well taken.  almost like, when did you stop beating your wife kinda question.  the seizure of a trivial thing, attempting to turn it in to a character flaw is how the vindictive mind works.  me, typically being a fairly reasonable guy, cries Uncle and moves on to the next challenge a little smarter for it.  this is how scoop is supposed to work

[Jay Bee]

My jaw hurts from smiling too much.

U sure it wuz from smilin hey?