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Author Topic: Crowder & Hayward to HOF  (Read 68319 times)

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Crowder & Hayward to HOF
« on: August 16, 2019, 09:09:25 AM »
https://twitter.com/muathletics/status/1162101583171215360?s=21

Six former student-athletes set to be inducted into the Marquette M Club Hall of Fame this winter.

🏐 Danielle Carlson
🏀 Jae Crowder
🏀 Lazar Hayward
⚽ Maegan Kelly
🏐 Elizabeth Koberstein
⚽ Jim Welch
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Re: Crowder & Hayward to HOF
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2019, 09:34:15 AM »
Shocking to see the exploitation of Crowder's success for university gain as it is hypocritical to ride his coat tails and then deny similar student athletes a chance to represent and succeed at Marquette, aina?
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Re: Crowder & Hayward to HOF
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2019, 09:36:20 AM »
Shocking to see the exploitation of Crowder's success for university gain as it is hypocritical to ride his coat tails and then deny similar student athletes a chance to represent and succeed at Marquette, aina?

You beat me to it.  Considering Crowder’s eligibility status was anathema to the BOT, isn’t it a bit disingenuous to put him in the HOF?  Hell, the guy represents everything the current regime is trying to get away from.

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Re: Crowder & Hayward to HOF
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2019, 09:38:49 AM »
Shocking to see the exploitation of Crowder's success for university gain as it is hypocritical to ride his coat tails and then deny similar student athletes a chance to represent and succeed at Marquette, aina?

Reasonable point, Doc.
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Re: Crowder & Hayward to HOF
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2019, 09:44:06 AM »
You beat me to it.  Considering Crowder’s eligibility status was anathema to the BOT, isn’t it a bit disingenuous to put him in the HOF?  Hell, the guy represents everything the current regime is trying to get away from.

No, he doesn’t.

Shocking to see the exploitation of Crowder's success for university gain as it is hypocritical to ride his coat tails and then deny similar student athletes a chance to represent and succeed at Marquette, aina?

What does the M Club HOF bring to Marquette University’s gain?
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Re: Crowder & Hayward to HOF
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2019, 09:55:10 AM »
Shocking to see the exploitation of Crowder's success for university gain as it is hypocritical to ride his coat tails and then deny similar student athletes a chance to represent and succeed at Marquette, aina?

So what is the other option? Erase him from memory and no longer acknowledge his impact on Marquette basketball? Is that really an example of Cura Personalis?

It’s not hypocritical to acknowledge his importance to the program while understanding that he wouldn’t be admitted now. I’m sure many alumni award recipients fall in the same boat.

And that’s not “exploitation.” Jae is likely fully on board with his induction.
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Re: Crowder & Hayward to HOF
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2019, 10:11:52 AM »
Shouldn’t someone have to graduate from MU to be put in the HOF? Very disappointed by this decision. So many other worthy candidates who are graduates.
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Re: Crowder & Hayward to HOF
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2019, 10:18:04 AM »
So what is the other option? Erase him from memory and no longer acknowledge his impact on Marquette basketball? Is that really an example of Cura Personalis?

It’s not hypocritical to acknowledge his importance to the program while understanding that he wouldn’t be admitted now. I’m sure many alumni award recipients fall in the same boat.

And that’s not “exploitation.” Jae is likely fully on board with his induction.

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Re: Crowder & Hayward to HOF
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2019, 10:20:00 AM »
Shouldn’t someone have to graduate from MU to be put in the HOF? Very disappointed by this decision. So many other worthy candidates who are graduates.

Wasn't this "rule" kinda shelved when Wade got his banner?

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Re: Crowder & Hayward to HOF
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2019, 10:20:45 AM »
Shouldn’t someone have to graduate from MU to be put in the HOF? Very disappointed by this decision. So many other worthy candidates who are graduates.
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Re: Crowder & Hayward to HOF
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2019, 10:43:27 AM »

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Re: Crowder & Hayward to HOF
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2019, 10:50:18 AM »
Can’t people just be happy about this kind of stuff?  Everyone has to be so critical and cynical.
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Re: Crowder & Hayward to HOF
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2019, 11:10:54 AM »
Can’t people just be happy about this kind of stuff?  Everyone has to be so critical and cynical.

No unfortunately they can't..........

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Re: Crowder & Hayward to HOF
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2019, 12:05:56 PM »
Shocking to see the exploitation of Crowder's success for university gain as it is hypocritical to ride his coat tails and then deny similar student athletes a chance to represent and succeed at Marquette, aina?

100% right, Doc. MU doesn't want his "kind" around here anymore. But if MU can use his fame to help the brand...

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Re: Crowder & Hayward to HOF
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2019, 12:35:01 PM »
100% right, Doc. MU doesn't want his "kind" around here anymore. But if MU can use his fame to help the brand...


Jae doesn’t see to think he’s being exploited or used. Maybe you should direct your criticisms in a way that’s more accurate.
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Re: Crowder & Hayward to HOF
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2019, 01:08:05 PM »

Jae doesn’t see to think he’s being exploited or used. Maybe you should direct your criticisms in a way that’s more accurate.

Right.  Maybe people should give Jae an email or even a Tweet letting them know that he's "everything this administration stands against" and that Marquette is just "exploiting his success for the university gain."

Because I'm sure the M Club Hall of Fame inductees are all over the national news, ESPN is probably all over this breaking news, etc.  ::)
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Re: Crowder & Hayward to HOF
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2019, 01:49:13 PM »
Many of you wouldn't get in nowadays either so ponder that.  Jae's a wonderful representative for Marquette and a genuinely very nice guy from a great family.

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« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2019, 01:54:31 PM »
Many of you wouldn't get in nowadays either so ponder that.  Jae's a wonderful representative for Marquette and a genuinely very nice guy from a great family.

Exactly. Maybe Marquette should stop calling all of the alumni who scored under the current ACT and GPA requirements and to ask them for donations because their grades from 40 years ago no longer satisfy what current students are asked to achieve to get into Marquette. That’d be a hell of a way for colleges to run things.
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Re: Crowder & Hayward to HOF
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2019, 01:55:12 PM »
Many of you wouldn't get in nowadays either so ponder that.  Jae's a wonderful representative for Marquette and a genuinely very nice guy from a great family.

I might add that I am pretty sure they are the top income earners from their class to date as well.

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Re: Crowder & Hayward to HOF
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2019, 02:23:17 PM »
Sorry to take this off-topic, but congrats to Jae and Lazar.

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Re: Crowder & Hayward to HOF
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2019, 02:32:08 PM »
I think the Midget year and the 2 Step season were two of my most favorite teams.  Zar and Jae were both undersized for their roles but were as tough as nails. Such fun.  Truly MU greats.

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« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2019, 02:45:08 PM »
I think the Midget year and the 2 Step season were two of my most favorite teams.  Zar and Jae were both undersized for their roles but were as tough as nails. Such fun.  Truly MU greats.


LOVED the midget year. The whole world expected a huge dropoff when the Amigos were gone, but 'Zar was a great team leader, JFB and DJO stepped up big-time, and Mo and David were far better at running the show than expected. It was a stressful season - so many close games - but a memorable one. The three straight OT wins on the road is a tough act to follow....

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Re: Crowder & Hayward to HOF
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2019, 02:52:24 PM »

LOVED the midget year. The whole world expected a huge dropoff when the Amigos were gone, but 'Zar was a great team leader, JFB and DJO stepped up big-time, and Mo and David were far better at running the show than expected. It was a stressful season - so many close games - but a memorable one. The three straight OT wins on the road is a tough act to follow....

The worst part of that year was the overwhelming sense of deja vu in the Washington game. After FSU, NC State, West Virginia, Nova (twice), and DePaul all ended up being games where we snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, the three OT wins gave the impression that the team finally had the ability to hold together at the end and secure wins. Then we play Washington, build the massive lead that looked certain to propel us to the Sweet 16 (we all knew New Mexico was a paper tiger), and it all unraveled thanks to Pondexter and Thomas.

That NCAA game still haunts me as the whole "season ending with a thud" moment.
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Re: Crowder & Hayward to HOF
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2019, 02:58:12 PM »
The worst part of that year was the overwhelming sense of deja vu in the Washington game. After FSU, NC State, West Virginia, Nova (twice), and DePaul all ended up being games where we snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, the three OT wins gave the impression that the team finally had the ability to hold together at the end and secure wins. Then we play Washington, build the massive lead that looked certain to propel us to the Sweet 16 (we all knew New Mexico was a paper tiger), and it all unraveled thanks to Pondexter and Thomas.

That NCAA game still haunts me as the whole "season ending with a thud" moment.

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Re: Crowder & Hayward to HOF
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2019, 03:25:52 PM »
Zar and Jae were both undersized for their roles but were as tough as nails. Such fun.  Truly MU greats.
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