NFL Thread 2019-2020

[forgetful]

The Steelers are in trouble.

They actually have been in a gradual decline ever since they lost to the Packers in the SB after the 2010 season.

In the 8 seasons since then, they have won only 3 playoff games and have failed to make the playoffs 3 times.

When you have a future HoF QB playing well, you can cover up some problems, but when you lose Roethlisberger, Bell and Brown bang-bang-bang, even while you let numerous other good players go to other teams over the years, you reach a point where it's difficult to compete for anything that matters.

Agreed. I'm not sure they can even compete with Miami for the Toilet Bowl of the league award.

[JWags85]

The Steelers are in trouble.

They actually have been in a gradual decline ever since they lost to the Packers in the SB after the 2010 season.

In the 8 seasons since then, they have won only 3 playoff games and have failed to make the playoffs 3 times.

When you have a future HoF QB playing well, you can cover up some problems, but when you lose Roethlisberger, Bell and Brown bang-bang-bang, even while you let numerous other good players go to other teams over the years, you reach a point where it's difficult to compete for anything that matters.

I have a couple friends that are big Steelers fans, and knowledgeable/reasonable football guys.  They've been done with Tomlin for a few years.  Not screaming for him to be fired, but fine with him being gone when he is.  The 2017 playoffs capped it for them.

He's always struck me as a CEO/locker room type, as opposed to a tactical genius.  His clock management has always been suspect.  But he looked like he has been going through the motions this year.  I already talked about how disgusted I was by their gameplan and execution against NE.  But what a lifeless bunch on Sunday as well.  A thoroughly average Seattle team had them at bay all game in their house.  Even when Ben went down Rudolph played well enough for them to have a shot at winning, but their defense was spineless and atrocious.

[The Sultan]

I have a couple friends that are big Steelers fans, and knowledgeable/reasonable football guys.  They've been done with Tomlin for a few years.  Not screaming for him to be fired, but fine with him being gone when he is.  The 2017 playoffs capped it for them.

He's always struck me as a CEO/locker room type, as opposed to a tactical genius.  His clock management has always been suspect.  But he looked like he has been going through the motions this year.  I already talked about how disgusted I was by their gameplan and execution against NE.  But what a lifeless bunch on Sunday as well.  A thoroughly average Seattle team had them at bay all game in their house.  Even when Ben went down Rudolph played well enough for them to have a shot at winning, but their defense was spineless and atrocious.

Time for Mike McCarthy to return home!

[GB Warrior]

I have a couple friends that are big Steelers fans, and knowledgeable/reasonable football guys.  They've been done with Tomlin for a few years.  Not screaming for him to be fired, but fine with him being gone when he is.  The 2017 playoffs capped it for them.

He's always struck me as a CEO/locker room type, as opposed to a tactical genius.  His clock management has always been suspect.  But he looked like he has been going through the motions this year.  I already talked about how disgusted I was by their gameplan and execution against NE.  But what a lifeless bunch on Sunday as well.  A thoroughly average Seattle team had them at bay all game in their house.  Even when Ben went down Rudolph played well enough for them to have a shot at winning, but their defense was spineless and atrocious.

He should consider hiring some tactical geniuses then, because he's a phenomenal coach. After the locker room turmoil he guided them through last year, 8 am struggling to see how change for changes sake is the best thing for them. The Packers had complacency - outsiders' view is that that's not the case in Pittsburgh

[MU82]

Newton reinjured his foot in last week's horrid loss to Tampa and might have to miss upcoming games.

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article235175497.html?

Although I sure as heck wish he were healthy, this does explain a lot about how feeble he looked in general and why the team never even considered using him as the ballcarrier on a crucial 4th-and-1 at the end of the game.

Newton has taken more hits than just about anybody in football since 2011 and the pummeling is taking its toll. Who knows ... he could be all but done as an NFL player.

I've enjoyed watching him play, and also watching him mature as a person. I'm obviously hoping for a complete recovery, but that might never happen.

The Panthers have no really viable alternative, so their season, already on the precipice, will likely be flushed down the toilet if he misses much time. I wanted them to sign Kaepernick, who would have been an almost perfect backup given his similar style and past success, but I guess that won't happen.

Oh well ... it's been a good run.

[Jockey]

AB released.

Shocking!!

[Stronghold]

AB released.

Shocking!!

Have to respect the Patriots organization on this one.  My guess is new info came out that they wanted no part of and won't put up with.

[MUBurrow]

Have to respect the Patriots organization on this one.  My guess is new info came out that they wanted no part of and won't put up with.

Sending text messages to the source for Klemko's article is unreal. AB is completely unhinged right now.

[The Sultan]

Have to respect the Patriots organization on this one.  My guess is new info came out that they wanted no part of and won't put up with.

Yes. They managed to clear the low bar that they have set for themselves.

[JWags85]

Have to respect the Patriots organization on this one.  My guess is new info came out that they wanted no part of and won't put up with.

They tampered to sign him, and then fast tracked him to play, even with allegations swirling.  They released him after it got even worse.  I'm not going to give them some moral congratulations for doing this after living in the grey area for 2 weeks.

[Jockey]

After what he did yesterday, I wonder why it took until this afternoon to get rid of him.

[GB Warrior]

They tampered to sign him, and then fast tracked him to play, even with allegations swirling.  They released him after it got even worse.  I'm not going to give them some moral congratulations for doing this after living in the grey area for 2 weeks.

And and and, his signing bonus was due Monday. Now they can begin the fight to avoid paying it.

[Jockey]

Robert Kraft has way too much integrity for this. He would never support someone who committed sexual improprieties.

[Cheeks]

Robert Kraft has way too much integrity for this. He would never support someone who committed sexual improprieties.

Funny

[MU82]

They tampered to sign him, and then fast tracked him to play, even with allegations swirling.  They released him after it got even worse.  I'm not going to give them some moral congratulations for doing this after living in the grey area for 2 weeks.

Truly a reprehensible organization. It sucks that they have proven repeatedly that good things often do happen to bad people.

[Pakuni]

Robert Kraft has way too much integrity for this. He would never support someone who committed sexual improprieties.

Word has it Brown rubbed Kraft the wrong way.

[Hards Alumni]

Funny

curious.

explain.

[Hards Alumni]

They tampered to sign him, and then fast tracked him to play, even with allegations swirling.  They released him after it got even worse.  I'm not going to give them some moral congratulations for doing this after living in the grey area for 2 weeks.

The Patriots are literally the worst.

[Cheeks]

The Patriots are literally the worst.

Literally.....

[CreightonWarrior]

Packers are 0-3 with last year's defense right now.

[Dish]

Bruce Arians completely botched the end of that game. Took delay of game, Winston kneels, they lose 7 yards, kick missed by maybe 2 yards, what a terrible end of game job.

[mu03eng]

Wild speculation on my part, but you gotta wonder if AB doesn't have a touch of the CTE similar to Aaron Hernandez.....he is just way too erratic

[forgetful]

Wild speculation on my part, but you gotta wonder if AB doesn't have a touch of the CTE similar to Aaron Hernandez.....he is just way too erratic

I think it is merely unbridled ego and narcissism. Erratic behavior is common in people that think they are the most important and can do no wrong.

[MU82]

Bruce Arians completely botched the end of that game. Took delay of game, Winston kneels, they lose 7 yards, kick missed by maybe 2 yards, what a terrible end of game job.

Even after today's uplifting win, I'm still sick that my Panthers lost to that dreadful Bucs team last week.

[The Sultan]

Bruce Arians completely botched the end of that game. Took delay of game, Winston kneels, they lose 7 yards, kick missed by maybe 2 yards, what a terrible end of game job.

He said that he intentionally took the delay of game because a longer kick is easier for his kicker. That's very odd.