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Mutaman

Quote from: forgetful on September 22, 2019, 06:59:51 PM
I think it is merely unbridled ego and narcissism. Erratic behavior is common in people that think they are the most important and can do no wrong.

Lets leave Keefe out of this.

Jables1604

Quote from: forgetful on September 22, 2019, 06:59:51 PM
I think it is merely unbridled ego and narcissism. Erratic behavior is common in people that think they are the most important and can do no wrong.
Sounds like you're describing a number of relentless posters on Scoop.

Dish

Kitchens calls a pointless timeout on 4th down, guaranteeing Browns can't get the ball back.

It's truly unbelievable that multi billion dollar organizations make such dumb in game decisions at crucial times so consistently.

Mutaman

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on September 22, 2019, 07:56:07 PM
He said that he intentionally took the delay of game because a longer kick is easier for his kicker. That's very odd.

As I understand it the kicker had missed one extra point and had another one blocked for what that's worth. Giant's radio announcers (Carl Banks) already had  the story written- great game by the rookie QB only to be let down by the miserable Giant defense, when the guy flat out missed. They were flabbergasted.

Mutaman

Quote from: MUDish on September 22, 2019, 10:29:54 PM
Kitchens calls a pointless timeout on 4th down, guaranteeing Browns can't get the ball back.

It's truly unbelievable that multi billion dollar organizations make such dumb in game decisions at crucial times so consistently.

Lets leave Mike McCarthy out of this.

The Sultan

Quote from: MUDish on September 22, 2019, 10:29:54 PM
Kitchens calls a pointless timeout on 4th down, guaranteeing Browns can't get the ball back.

It's truly unbelievable that multi billion dollar organizations make such dumb in game decisions at crucial times so consistently.


Really I had no reason to think Kitchens was a good or bad hire.  So many of these coordinators are anonymous to me, and it seems like there is way too much retreading of head coaches who haven't been particularly successful.  But at best the jury is still out on Kitchens. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Dish

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on September 23, 2019, 08:11:52 AM

Really I had no reason to think Kitchens was a good or bad hire.  So many of these coordinators are anonymous to me, and it seems like there is way too much retreading of head coaches who haven't been particularly successful.  But at best the jury is still out on Kitchens.

What boggles my mind is NFL teams spend so much time, effort, capital on scouting, player development, player/coaching staff salaries, all that, and there's only 16 times a year for all that investment to pay off on the field where it matters, and teams have bozo's making decisions all of us at home can see are terrible.

No one needs to be perfect, and mistakes happen, but every team should have a Common Sense Coordinator.

4everwarriors

Quote from: forgetful on September 22, 2019, 06:59:51 PM
I think it is merely unbridled ego and narcissism. Erratic behavior is common in people that think they are the most important and can do no wrong.



Don't forget ta potentially toss drugs and alcohol inta da equation two, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

mu03eng

Quote from: forgetful on September 22, 2019, 06:59:51 PM
I think it is merely unbridled ego and narcissism. Erratic behavior is common in people that think they are the most important and can do no wrong.

I'd agree with that take if it was just the contract stuff and/or the assault issues.....but when you throw the helmet stuff, the cryofreezing, the group texting an accuser, etc I think he is demonstrating judgement so poor it's beyond comprehension and is certainly outside his behavior of the first 5 years in the league.
"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Pakuni

Quote from: mu03eng on September 23, 2019, 12:24:54 PM
I'd agree with that take if it was just the contract stuff and/or the assault issues.....but when you throw the helmet stuff, the cryofreezing, the group texting an accuser, etc I think he is demonstrating judgement so poor it's beyond comprehension and is certainly outside his behavior of the first 5 years in the league.

I would not be surprised in the least if there are some mental health issues at play here.
But I also think we're quick to cite CTE every time a contact sport athlete goes off the rails. From what we know now, it seems the great majority of football players - and probably hockey players as well - have or will develop CTE. And yet the great majority of these current and former athletes don't behave erratically, much less harm others (or themselves).

I'm no expert, but judging from what little I know and the behavior he's displayed, I'd guess Brown is more likely bipolar than suffering the effects of CTE.

cheebs09

Quote from: MUDish on September 23, 2019, 09:11:21 AM
What boggles my mind is NFL teams spend so much time, effort, capital on scouting, player development, player/coaching staff salaries, all that, and there's only 16 times a year for all that investment to pay off on the field where it matters, and teams have bozo's making decisions all of us at home can see are terrible.

No one needs to be perfect, and mistakes happen, but every team should have a Common Sense Coordinator.

Andy Glockner is very vocal on Twitter about this. It makes you watch the games a little differently since coaches go against the numbers so much.

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

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Re: COVID-19

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

jsglow

The 'Skins are really, really bad.

MU82

Quote from: ZaLiN on September 23, 2019, 08:24:46 PM
Imagine trading Khalil Mack

And then complaining that you need a better pass rush.

As a coach, Gruden was an OK television analyst.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Dish

I like McLaurin a lot, rookie wideouts typically have an adjustment period. Dude looks like he's been in the league 3 years, not 3 games.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: MUDish on September 23, 2019, 09:22:02 PM
I like McLaurin a lot, rookie wideouts typically have an adjustment period. Dude looks like he's been in the league 3 years, not 3 games.

Dude is good.  Let's see what happens when teams adjust to him. Needs a Robin.

The Sultan

I turned the game on last night and the first play I saw was Ha Ha's pick six.  By the reaction of the crowd, I thought the game was in Soldier Field.

There has not been a franchise run worse than the Redskins over the past twenty years.  (Yes including the Browns.)  A great franchise with a wonderful fanbase...and it's turned to this.  Snyder is the absolute worst owner in the game. 

Now they are putting the likes of London Fletcher on their Ring of Honor and misspelling his name in the process.

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Dr. Blackheart

Do the unbeaten Lions remind anyone else of the 13-3 Dick Jauron Bears?  Not very good but stink their way out of jams?

JWags85

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on September 24, 2019, 09:53:53 AM
Do the unbeaten Lions remind anyone else of the 13-3 Dick Jauron Bears?  Not very good but stink their way out of jams?

Maybe if they had somehow lucked a W out of that stinkfest against Arizona.  That Bears team had more horseshoes than Churchill Downs.  Oh look another Mike Brown pick 6.

I suspect they come crashing back to earth with Chiefs, @Packers, and Minnesota looming ahead.

MU82

Looks like Kyle Allen will get a legit chance to prove that he is the new Tom Brady (and that Cam Newton is the new Drew Bledsoe). The Athletic has reported that Newton has a much more serious injury than had been disclosed and will be out for 6-8 weeks.

Allen was outstanding Sunday, hitting receivers in stride, looking like he knew exactly what he was doing all day. But the opponent was the Cardinals, and they are really, really bad. The Panthers are at Houston this week, and Mr. Watt will be introducing himself to Allen - hopefully not all day long!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

tower912

Detroit has a difficult schedule coming up.  There was one projection that had the starting 0-11.   The worst thing you can do is to ever start to believe the Lions might be good.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Cheeks

Game in 4K tonight.  First time in US history a regular season game provided in 4K.

Check your TV provider if they carry it in 4K.

If you are in section 107 tonight I can steer you to a row to purchase 4 students a beer...I gave them my tickets
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

forgetful

Quote from: Cheeks on September 26, 2019, 07:07:18 PM
Game in 4K tonight.  First time in US history a regular season game provided in 4K.

Check your TV provider if they carry it in 4K.

If you are in section 107 tonight I can steer you to a row to purchase 4 students a beer...I gave them my tickets

You can purchase 4 students for a single beer. Man, students are cheap these days.

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