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jesmu84

Miami tanking big time. Has a TON of draft picks in the coming years.

Dish

That Clowney trade is so bad, the more details that emerge, the worse it looks for the Texans.

Pakuni

Quote from: JWags85 on August 31, 2019, 06:31:20 PM
They probably saw Luck retire and realized they set Watson up to get battered yet again. I get what they were doing stacking up OL, but they just overpaid for everything in a panic and got fleeced

The Tunsil deal sure seems like a lose-lose.
Texans way overpaid for good, but not great, LT,and the Phins are tanking for a QB who will enter the league behind an atrocious offensive line.

The Sultan

They're saying on ESPN that the Texans never talked with Tunsil about an extension, which is fairly routine in this situation.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

wadesworld

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on September 01, 2019, 10:06:54 AM
They're saying on ESPN that the Texans never talked with Tunsil about an extension, which is fairly routine in this situation.

The guy who's never been a GM of a sports franchise saying he knows better than the GM of an NFL team.

The Sultan

#80
Quote from: wadesworld on September 01, 2019, 10:12:56 AM
The guy who's never been a GM of a sports franchise saying he knows better than the GM of an NFL team.


1. I was just reporting what was said.

2. The Texans don't have a GM

3. Living rent free in your head.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

wadesworld

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on September 01, 2019, 10:23:29 AM

1. I was just reporting what was said.

2. The Texans don't have a GM

3. Living rent free in your head.

Very different than reporting what a HOF kicker said about Parkey. Got it.

MU82

My son, a huge Bears fan, was hoping the Panthers would cut the rookie kicker they brought in, Joey Slye, who had been booming kicks all preseason. But instead, the Panthers put longtime kicker Graham Gano on season-long IR, and Slye is now my team's main man.

I am one who thinks preseason means absolutely nothing, but that obviously wasn't the case for Slye. I just hope he kicks like that when it counts.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

GB Warrior

Quote from: MU82 on September 01, 2019, 11:50:05 AM
My son, a huge Bears fan, was hoping the Panthers would cut the rookie kicker they brought in, Joey Slye, who had been booming kicks all preseason. But instead, the Panthers put longtime kicker Graham Gano on season-long IR, and Slye is now my team's main man.

I am one who thinks preseason means absolutely nothing, but that obviously wasn't the case for Slye. I just hope he kicks like that when it counts.

Preseason is the perfect time for kickers to work on their draws and fades

Cheeks

Another insanely bad deal by Jerrah.  6 years...LOL.....$50M guaranteed....to a RB.  LOL
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

The Sultan

Quote from: Cheeks on September 04, 2019, 09:13:09 AM
Another insanely bad deal by Jerrah.  6 years...LOL.....$50M guaranteed....to a RB.  LOL


Not only that, but it is a six year *extension* from his rookie deal that still has two years left.  And Jones bargained against himself the entire time.  What a doofus.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Cheeks

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on September 04, 2019, 09:30:37 AM

Not only that, but it is a six year *extension* from his rookie deal that still has two years left.  And Jones bargained against himself the entire time.  What a doofus.

That's my Jerrah.....an old man desperate to win a title before he dies.
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

MUBurrow

Quote from: jesmu84 on September 01, 2019, 09:32:29 AM
Miami tanking big time. Has a TON of draft picks in the coming years.

#trusttheprocess  #finsup
But yeah, this team will be atrocious for a bit - but I prefer that to limping to another 6 wins with Tannehill

Quote from: Pakuni on September 01, 2019, 09:55:41 AM
The Tunsil deal sure seems like a lose-lose.
Texans way overpaid for good, but not great, LT,and the Phins are tanking for a QB who will enter the league behind an atrocious offensive line.

That's true, but I hope they wouldn't just throw Tua/Herbert into the fire for a team that wins 4 games in 2020. The way this is setting up might constructively ruin what is left of Josh Rosen forever, though.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Everyone knew Jerry wasn't gonna let Zeke sit out the season, right?

The Sultan

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on September 04, 2019, 11:30:26 AM
Everyone knew Jerry wasn't gonna let Zeke sit out the season, right?


No but at least his son publically postured like a competant negotiator.  Zeke has TWO years left on his deal.  The bargaining position was pretty much all with the Cowboys.  Yet they give him an extension with $50 million guaranteed?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

forgetful

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on September 04, 2019, 11:30:26 AM
Everyone knew Jerry wasn't gonna let Zeke sit out the season, right?

I think he was going to be signed to an extension anyways. The holdout was likely so he could spend time in a foreign country where regulation of PEDs is weak, where it is easier to avoid any testing, and many new exotic and difficult to detect PEDs are readily available.


The Sultan

WTF are the Raiders doing?  A couple weeks after Mayock saying things are good with Antonio Brown after his helmet saga, they decide to fine him $54,000 for missing two practices during the saga, which causes Mayock and Brown to get into an argument.  Now they may suspend Brown for getting in the argument.

You traded and signed a guy who has a history of being flighty.  Now you are going to clamp down hard on the guy for acting like that?  Do you really think that's going to help?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

wadesworld

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on September 05, 2019, 11:57:30 AM
WTF are the Raiders doing?  A couple weeks after Mayock saying things are good with Antonio Brown after his helmet saga, they decide to fine him $54,000 for missing two practices during the saga, which causes Mayock and Brown to get into an argument.  Now they may suspend Brown for getting in the argument.

You traded and signed a guy who has a history of being flighty.  Now you are going to clamp down hard on the guy for acting like that?  Do you really think that's going to help?

The irony.

JWags85

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on September 05, 2019, 11:57:30 AM
WTF are the Raiders doing?  A couple weeks after Mayock saying things are good with Antonio Brown after his helmet saga, they decide to fine him $54,000 for missing two practices during the saga, which causes Mayock and Brown to get into an argument.  Now they may suspend Brown for getting in the argument.

You traded and signed a guy who has a history of being flighty.  Now you are going to clamp down hard on the guy for acting like that?  Do you really think that's going to help?

Its all so stupid and so very Raiders.  You know what Brown is about, you know he's a diva and he's temperamental, how do you handle him so ham fisted?  Say what you want about Brown's attitude or off the field antics, but he's stayed out of trouble otherwise and he's never let it truly affect his on-field production.  There was rumblings of unhappiness and locker room trouble last year, and he still lead the league in and put up a career high in TDs and another 1250+ yard season.  If Mayock is trying to power play and let everyone know he runs a tight ship, why make this move?  Its moronic.

Cheeks

Quote from: forgetful on September 04, 2019, 12:28:44 PM
I think he was going to be signed to an extension anyways. The holdout was likely so he could spend time in a foreign country where regulation of PEDs is weak, where it is easier to avoid any testing, and many new exotic and difficult to detect PEDs are readily available.


That's quite the story...and it was likely you say....
"I hate everything about this job except the games, Everything. I don't even get affected anymore by the winning, by the ratings, those things. The trouble is, it will sound like an excuse because we've never won the national championship, but winning just isn't all that important to me." Al McGuire

jesmu84

So Bears gonna have picks #32 and 33 next year. I like it.

Dish

Quote from: jesmu84 on September 05, 2019, 02:03:22 PM
So Bears gonna have picks #32 and 33 next year. I like it.

Pick 33 will be tough, as the Fins, Washington, Arizona, and Cincy are all going to be awful.

wadesworld

Quote from: jesmu84 on September 05, 2019, 02:03:22 PM
So Bears gonna have picks #32 and 33 next year. I like it.

Good joke.

Pakuni

In a weird way, this actually works out pretty well for the Raiders.
They have legit reason to suspend him for week 1, a winnable home game against the Broncos. Once that happens, through a quirk of the CBA, they can cut him at any point this season without paying any of his future guarantees. So, basically, they pay him week-to week for as long as they will have him.
I imagine they'd rather not have to deal with this at all, but all-in-all they now hold a lot of leverage over AB. And he has 29 million reasons to get in line pronto.

The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on September 05, 2019, 04:48:04 PM
In a weird way, this actually works out pretty well for the Raiders.
They have legit reason to suspend him for week 1, a winnable home game against the Broncos. Once that happens, through a quirk of the CBA, they can cut him at any point this season without paying any of his future guarantees. So, basically, they pay him week-to week for as long as they will have him.
I imagine they'd rather not have to deal with this at all, but all-in-all they now hold a lot of leverage over AB. And he has 29 million reasons to get in line pronto.


Well ok then. That makes some sense.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

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