NFL Thread 2019-2020

[Pakuni]

Shockin' knowon has fooked wit da Braves orr der tomahawk chop lately, hey?

Not really.
Braves isn't a slur.

[Hards Alumni]

Washington Radiants

As in, the shining city upon a hill.

Fight me.l

[Uncle Rico]

Washington 45's

[4everwarriors]

Not really.
Braves isn't a slur.

Nor is Warriors, hey?

[MUBurrow]

Lots of names floating around, including Warriors. This one is interesting:

https://twitter.com/OllieConnolly/status/1278821758053818369?s=19

Oh that's cool as hell.  They should just announce the change today and it would be shocking how quickly it would leave the news cycle.  It sucks that Snyder is able to be such a dipshit for so long then profit on all the gear sales if they make that move.

[Pakuni]

Nor is Warriors, hey?

Nor is Warriors.

[tower912]

If only the MU powers that be had gotten rid of all of the inappropriate imagery 40 years ago.     If they had switched the imagery over to, say, Joan of Arc, MU would have been years ahead of the curve and would still be the Warriors.    Alas. So, Golden Eagles it is.   

[Billy Hoyle]

If only the MU powers that be had gotten rid of all of the inappropriate imagery 40 years ago.     If they had switched the imagery over to, say, Joan of Arc, MU would have been years ahead of the curve and would still be the Warriors.    Alas. So, Golden Eagles it is.

the main reason Native American imagery in 1954 was chosen was to ride the coattails of the Milwaukee Braves. There was a lot of work that went into deciding if Native American imagery could be separated from Warriors, both in 1993 and again in 2005. The answer was "no." Even in 2006, there were white kids wearing Native headdresses to games (and being encouraged and defended by Dr. McAdams after the University asked them to stop).

And, the guy who portrayed the "First Warrior" and was the basis for the logo came out in support of ending the use of "Warriors." https://fox6now.com/2013/12/04/man-who-was-face-of-marquette-warriors-shares-take-on-mascot-debate/

[The Sultan]

the main reason Native American imagery in 1954 was chosen was to ride the coattails of the Milwaukee Braves. There was a lot of work that went into deciding if Native American imagery could be separated from Warriors, both in 1993 and again in 2005. The answer was "no." Even in 2006, there were white kids wearing Native headdresses to games (and being encouraged and defended by Dr. McAdams after the University asked them to stop).

And, the guy who portrayed the "First Warrior" and was the basis for the logo came out in support of ending the use of "Warriors." https://fox6now.com/2013/12/04/man-who-was-face-of-marquette-warriors-shares-take-on-mascot-debate/

In 1993, if they would have gone with a different logo and stuck with Warriors, no one would have been wearing a headress in 2010.

[Hards Alumni]

In 1993, if they would have gone with a different logo and stuck with Warriors, no one would have been wearing a headress in 2010.

There would have been some idiots that remained, but generally I agree.  Most importantly, it would have put the warriors debate to rest.

My guess is the school wanted to divest its Christian image from war entirely which is why we got the milquetoast Golden Eagle that we see today.

We could have gone with something like this:

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Today's The Onion said to stop being offensive they were changing their name from Washington Redskins to DC Redskins.

[cheebs09]

The more I read about this Mahomes deal, the more I don't understand it. It feels like a lot of high dollar one year deals that doesn't offer him much guarantee, at least compared to the $450M number.

[shoothoops]

The more I read about this Mahomes deal, the more I don't understand it. It feels like a lot of high dollar one year deals that doesn't offer him much guarantee, at least compared to the $450M number.

His upfront money is $63 million. His total guaranteed money is $140 million to be paid by 2022.

[lawdog77]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/redskins/2020/07/08/washington-new-nfl-team-name-warriors-is-non-starter/5389663002/

Looks like Marquette was ahead of the curve.

[Jockey]

Washington changing name in next couple days?

[cheebs09]

Washington changing name in next couple days?

Announced that they were retiring it today. They announced this by using the current logo on their letterhead and using the existing name in their press release multiple times.

Also, made a point to mention Ron Rivera as part of the new nickname process.

[The Sultan]

I think Rivera is a good coach.  But they kind of are turning the whole show over to the guy.  I don't think having him oversee this process a few weeks before training camp is the best idea.

[cheebs09]

I think Rivera is a good coach.  But they kind of are turning the whole show over to the guy.  I don't think having him oversee this process a few weeks before training camp is the best idea.

To me the Rivera thing is to publicize there is a minority involved in the process and highlight him hiring a minority coach. I don't know if Rivera actually has anymore say than a normal coach.

Although, I may just be too cynical. The whole press release without any quotes from Snyder and no press conference tells me he is doing this only because of the pressure from outside.

[The Sultan]

To me the Rivera thing is to publicize there is a minority involved in the process and highlight him hiring a minority coach. I don't know if Rivera actually has anymore say than a normal coach.

Although, I may just be too cynical. The whole press release without any quotes from Snyder and no press conference tells me he is doing this only because of the pressure from outside.

I can't remember where I read it, but the gist of the article was that Rivera is pretty much the defacto team President right now.  They haven't replaced Bruce Allen, and Snyder has largely removed himself from day-to-day operations, so it has been falling to Rivera - who I think reports directly to Snyder.

[Pakuni]

I can't remember where I read it, but the gist of the article was that Rivera is pretty much the defacto team President right now.  They haven't replaced Bruce Allen, and Snyder has largely removed himself from day-to-day operations, so it has been falling to Rivera - who I think reports directly to Snyder.

Any coach with options (i.e. Ron Rivera) wouldn't go to Washington under any other circumstances.

[Jockey]

I think Rivera is a good coach.  But they kind of are turning the whole show over to the guy.  I don't think having him oversee this process a few weeks before training camp is the best idea.

Just last week on WSCR, Rivera did the "now is not the right time" thing when asked about changing the name.

[JWags85]

To me the Rivera thing is to publicize there is a minority involved in the process and highlight him hiring a minority coach. I don't know if Rivera actually has anymore say than a normal coach.

Although, I may just be too cynical. The whole press release without any quotes from Snyder and no press conference tells me he is doing this only because of the pressure from outside.

Are you kidding? That's not cynical at all, that's just the truth of Dan Snyder. He's owned the Redskins for 20 years. If he truly cared he could have done it years ago. This is 1000% his hand being forced, largely by Fred Smith who is richer, more powerful, and better connected than Snyder is, even if he's only a minority owner.

My sister's BF is from the DC area and a diehard Skins fan. Even 4th of July weekend he told me "I wouldn't mind, I love the team, but I understand and if they could still keep the same colors it would be fine and could be cool...but let's be honest, Snyder is too much of a complete and utter stubborn petulant pretty boy to change anything. This will be nothing when he refuses to do anything. He will just tell FedEx he will find a new sponsor if he has any opportunity to at all"....and here we are.

[cheebs09]

Sounds like a bombshell article coming by the end of the week about Washington. Rumors on Twitter of sexual harassment involving Snyder and others. Someone even threw out Epstein's name.

[rocket surgeon]

perfect!  the warchington redhotties

  betcha they handle this one differently than uncle joe's

[jesmu84]

perfect!  the warchington redhotties

  betcha they handle this one differently than uncle joe's

Probably different than Trump's too