NFL Thread 2019-2020

[hairy worthen]

Yeah, I saw that and was thinking the same thing.

I just looked at the list of hall of fame Coaches. Cowher does not belong with that group.

[Dish]

I thought one of the six seeds would win today, but I thought the Vikes had the better shot. I was wrong.

[wadesworld]

I thought one of the six seeds would win today, but I thought the Vikes had the better shot. I was wrong.

I didn't think either would win but if I would've had to pick it would've been Titans. Henry is a monster and they can control the clock when they get a lead. 9ers are outstanding and Kirk Cousins is still Kirk Cousins.

[Dish]

Ravens look completely unprepared from the jump, and quite frankly the Titans have whipped their a$$ in all three phases. This Titans team is legit, one of those teams that just got better as the season progressed.

[wadesworld]

Ravens look completely unprepared from the jump, and quite frankly the Titans have whipped their a$$ in all three phases. This Titans team is legit, one of those teams that just got better as the season progressed.

Yup. Who would've guessed inserting Ryan freaking Tannehill into the starting spot would turn their season around?

That's why I don't get why the Titans are the hot rumor for Brady. Tannehill has been significantly better than Brady this year.

[Cheeks]

Lamar.....just brutal

[Dish]

Yup. Who would've guessed inserting Ryan freaking Tannehill into the starting spot would turn their season around?

That's why I don't get why the Titans are the hot rumor for Brady. Tannehill has been significantly better than Brady this year.

Have to give Vrabel a ton of credit for making that move. A lot of franchises with that high of a draft pick at QB would stick it out. Totally changed their season, and they self scouted well to think Tannenhill could improve them.

[MU82]

Have to give Vrabel a ton of credit for making that move. A lot of franchises with that high of a draft pick at QB would stick it out. Totally changed their season, and they self scouted well to think Tannenhill could improve them.

Totally agree. Took a lot of guts. All you have to do is remember Lovie's absolute refusal to even consider pulling Grossman, no matter how poorly he played.

Liking my San Fran over KC pick in the Super Bowl a lot more today. We'll see if I still like it tomorrow!

[Dr. Blackheart]

Have to give Vrabel a ton of credit for making that move. A lot of franchises with that high of a draft pick at QB would stick it out. Totally changed their season, and they self scouted well to think Tannenhill could improve them.

Mariota doesn't have the arm to stretch the field, Tannenhill does. The Titans have the receivers who can stretch the field. And, with Henry, he is much more effective when you can stretch the field. Marriage made in heaven.

[RJax55]

When was the last time a RB carried a team into the Super Bowl? Henry has been unreal since November. He has run for 125+ in 6 of his last 8 games.

And, when was the last time a team had their QB throw for less than a 100 yards a game and win back-to-back playoff games?

Doesn't seem sustainable, but the Texans and Chiefs had the 25th and 26th ranked run defenses this season.

[The Sultan]

Yup. Who would've guessed inserting Ryan freaking Tannehill into the starting spot would turn their season around?

I definitely didn't think it would turn the season around.

But Tannehill was never a terrible quarterback.  He just had nothing around him and had to throw the ball too much.  A strong armed veteran quarterback, whose learned from his mistakes and has a good team around him, can seemingly win out of nowhere.  Rich Gannon is an example.  He likely won't become a multi-year All Pro like Gannon, but I wouldn't mess with what's working.

[Dish]

I definitely didn't think it would turn the season around.

But Tannehill was never a terrible quarterback.  He just had nothing around him and had to throw the ball too much.  A strong armed veteran quarterback, whose learned from his mistakes and has a good team around him, can seemingly win out of nowhere.  Rich Gannon is an example.  He likely won't become a multi-year All Pro like Gannon, but I wouldn't mess with what's working.

That's actually a really good comp.

[Jockey]

Mariota doesn't have the arm to stretch the field, Tannenhill does. The Titans have the receivers who can stretch the field. And, with Henry, he is much more effective when you can stretch the field. Marriage made in heaven.

Not only does he have the arm, but he is a very accurate deep thrower.

[MU82]

When was the last time a RB carried a team into the Super Bowl? Henry has been unreal since November. He has run for 125+ in 6 of his last 8 games.

And, when was the last time a team had their QB throw for less than a 100 yards a game and win back-to-back playoff games?

Doesn't seem sustainable, but the Texans and Chiefs had the 25th and 26th ranked run defenses this season.

The answer to your second question: The '74 Steelers passed for 95 yards in their AFC championship game win over Oakland and 84 yards in their Super Bowl win over Minnesota. The previous year, the '73 Dolphins passed for 26 yards in their AFC title game win over Oakland and 63 yards in their Super Bowl win over Minnesota. CBS said yesterday it hasn't been done since those teams.

Obviously, this era is so different. The Dolphins completely dominated back-to-back Super Bowls despite Bob Griese passing only 18 times -- TOTAL -- against Washington and Minnesota. It was Morris left, Kiick right, and Csonka up the middle. Especially Csonka.

So for that to happen in this pass-happy era, it's pretty amazing.

As for when was the last time a RB "carried" a team to the Super Bowl, I guess it depends upon one's definition of "carry." I think a pretty good argument could be made that Terrell Davis and Emmitt Smith carried their teams to Super Bowls in the 1990s, but they had HoF QBs, too. Before that, lots of RBs did -- Csonka, Harris, Riggins, Allen, etc, etc.

As for Henry ...

The Panthers went 2-6 at home this season, and they happened to win the only 2 home games my wife and I went to. One of those was against Tennessee. The Panthers took a 17-0 halftime lead in part because the Titans only gave the ball to Henry 3 freakin' times. They had 3 series in which Henry, inexplicably, didn't touch the football. In the second half, they started feeding him the ball and he helped the Titans pull close. But the Panthers' offense did well behind McCaffrey and the Titans had to pass it more in the 4th quarter. I'm glad Vrabel and his OC messed up in the first half!

Henry has gained at least 100 in 7 of 8 games since -- winning all 7 (lost a close game to Hou when he had 86). He's had games of 211, 195, 188, 182, 159 and 149 during this stretch. Impressive.

[The Sultan]

One of the best halves of football I have seen.

[PGsHeroes32]

One of the best halves of football I have seen.

Bill Obrien shoulda been canned at half time.

[lawdog77]

Bill Obrien shoulda been canned at half time.

went to step on KC's throats, and stepped on his own d%@!

[PGsHeroes32]

went to step on KC's throats, and stepped on his own d%@!

Thats the issue. He chose the wrong/stupid time to do it too.

He had a chance to step on their throat on 4th and 1 in the red zone, played safe and kicked the field goal while burning a TO.

The TO screwed them later in the half on the Hopkins non call PI. Couldnt challenge.

Guy is a clown.

[Jockey]

Suicide hotlines may be busy in Chitown after the Pace Bowl.

[Billy Hoyle]

So, tell me why Eric Bieniemy is not an NFL head coach again...

[hairy worthen]

Stefanski new Browns coach. Ok.

How do you hire a coach before the gm? Most gms are going to want to hire their own coach. What a f'd up mess

[Jockey]

So, tell me why Eric Bieniemy is not an NFL head coach again...

Who wouldn't rather have Stefanski? His offense only chokes against good teams - not everybody.

[Billy Hoyle]

Who wouldn't rather have Stefanski? His offense only chokes against good teams - not everybody.

Which brings up , why not Robert Salah, who owned Stefanski? Oh, that's right...

[MU82]

One can point to a decision or two by O'Brien as screwing up Houston's momentum, and I wouldn't argue with you ... but I just don't think KC was going to lose that game.

[CreightonWarrior]

What a load of horseshit. An alleged playoff caliber ref should NEVER blow that dead. Absolutely ridiculous.