NFL Thread 2019-2020

[The Sultan]

I wouldn't mind one bit if the Packers reached out to him.

[Dr. Blackheart]

I wouldn't mind one bit if the Packers reached out to him.

As a Bears fan, I hope the Packers do too.

[Cheeks]

As a Bears fan, I hope the Packers do too.

I released him from his contract with us this February.....buyer beware

[The Sultan]

He'll probably end up with the Patriots.

Just agreed to terms.

[tower912]

So the Patriots win another Super Bowl.    Everybody who goes there knows that B and B are the alphas and that playing diva-ball is not tolerated.    He goes silent, catches 70 balls, NE wins a Super Bowl.   If he doesn't go silent, he gets cut again. 

[Dr. Blackheart]

Just agreed to terms.

That was quick. Hmmmm...

[The Sultan]

That was quick. Hmmmm...

Yeah. Exactly.

[jesmu84]

Calm down Lamar Jackson

[forgetful]

That was quick. Hmmmm...

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/antonio-brown-social-media-consultants-accelerate-release-raiders-report

The NFL needs to investigate this. I said right away he would go to the Patriots, because this whole thing seemed orchestrated. Pretty sure there was tampering going on here.

[jesmu84]

Per twitter, dolphins players trying to jump ship ASAP

[Anti-Dentite]

Well, good to see the Lions remain the Lions.

[MU82]

So the Patriots win another Super Bowl.    Everybody who goes there knows that B and B are the alphas and that playing diva-ball is not tolerated.    He goes silent, catches 70 balls, NE wins a Super Bowl.   If he doesn't go silent, he gets cut again.

Maybe Brady deflated A.B.'s balls.

[JWags85]

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/antonio-brown-social-media-consultants-accelerate-release-raiders-report

The NFL needs to investigate this. I said right away he would go to the Patriots, because this whole thing seemed orchestrated. Pretty sure there was tampering going on here.

There is zero doubt in my mind.  Rosenhaus and an organization well known, established, and proven to play in every grey area possible?  Its not even sour grapes, this is just the kind of crap that makes sports uninteresting.  Very possible the moves were in place the minute Brown got out of Pittsburgh.  Maybe not specifically to the Pats, but "lets make a fuss, force a move, and pick our spot".

Per twitter, dolphins players trying to jump ship ASAP

Can you blame them?  Flores is a joke.  That was as bad an effort and performance as you could see from a team, and there is nothing to imply they are going to tick up.  They have an INCREDIBLE haul of picks coming up, they are brilliantly placed to stock up with fresh young talent, there is no incentive organizationally to win now, especially with a coach who has lost the locker room.

Other thoughts from the day...
-Dak with an all-time "Bish betta have my money!" performance.  WOW.  He had a perfect QBR through the 3rd.
-Lamar Jackson looked fantastic.  Obviously the Dolphins are a joke, but still, clearly improved in the offseason and started with a statement.
-Chiefs look tough as ever, but the Jags lost most of their promise quickly.  Yeesh.

And finally...
Tomlin is done, dead, and buried.  He's a lame duck and we're a week in.  Holy hell have I never seen a worse game plan against a team you know well in a stadium you struggle in.  Down 17, you're running tosses from shotgun on 3rd and 1, using EVERY...LAST...SECOND of the playclock, showing no imagination.  Then kicking a FG on 4th and short to start the 3rd quarter...just an absolute embarrassment.

Pittsburgh is a proud and storied organization, but they will have to replace a coach and a borderline HOF coach for the first time in a decade. And Conner is good but not Bell.  And Juju has a ton of potential but will have some growing pains becoming a #1, especially when his #2 and #3 cant catch to save their lives.  The natives will be restless.  Not fun.

[The Sultan]

There is zero doubt in my mind.  Rosenhaus and an organization well known, established, and proven to play in every grey area possible?  Its not even sour grapes, this is just the kind of crap that makes sports uninteresting.  Very possible the moves were in place the minute Brown got out of Pittsburgh.  Maybe not specifically to the Pats, but "lets make a fuss, force a move, and pick our spot".

Yeah but why sign the contract with the Raiders?  I think this all started when they levied the fines.  This was a pretty good read and I think it makes some sense.

https://deadspin.com/why-good-organizations-know-how-to-handle-players-like-1837929843

And sure Rosenhaus may have been playing in the grey areas after that, but what is the NFL going to do?

[Hards Alumni]

Maybe Brady deflated A.B.'s balls.

[Pakuni]

Yeah but why sign the contract with the Raiders?  I think this all started when they levied the fines.  This was a pretty good read and I think it makes some sense.

https://deadspin.com/why-good-organizations-know-how-to-handle-players-like-1837929843

And sure Rosenhaus may have been playing in the grey areas after that, but what is the NFL going to do?

It's a very difficult situation for the Raiders.
One the one hand, the fines almost certainly escalated matters and led to the ultimate resolution of this clusterf*ck.

On the other hand, they needed to impose those fines in order to protect themselves from a $30 million mistake and (I imagine they were thinking) provide some small measure of leverage over the player. The fines allowed the Raiders to release AB without paying a dime of his guarantee. Don't fine him, let him play week one, and now you're on the hook for those guarantees whether Brown shows up or not.

I will say, though I don't think a ton of him as a coach, I'm impressed at how Tomlin managed to keep him under wraps for so long.

[forgetful]

Yeah but why sign the contract with the Raiders?  I think this all started when they levied the fines.  This was a pretty good read and I think it makes some sense.

https://deadspin.com/why-good-organizations-know-how-to-handle-players-like-1837929843

And sure Rosenhaus may have been playing in the grey areas after that, but what is the NFL going to do?

The article I linked says he had already contacted a media consulting agency on how to force a release through media posts when he got his very first fine. He knew that missing the required practices would result in a fine, so not sure how this wasn't part of his big picture, plan.

There is also the fact that the Patriots wanted him, tried to trade for him (offering more than the Raiders), but Pittsburgh refused. Brown also wanted to play for the Patriots.

Even stranger, the NFL has said they will not investigate.

[dgies9156]

Even stranger, the NFL has said they will not investigate.

Of course they didn't.

The New England Patriots are the 21st Century answer to the Green Bay Packers of the 1960s. Investigating Bill Bellichek would be akin to Pete Rozelle investigating Vince Lombardi in the 1960s. You just don't do it.

Everybody who hates the Patriots (and there are many) hates the Patriots for the same reason people from across the country hated the Packers in the 1960s. They win. They have a swagger others thought of as arrogance.

Both had very "obnoxious" head coaches.

[forgetful]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/10/us/nfl-antonio-brown-lawsuit/index.html

Wonder what the NFL will do about this.

[Dr. Blackheart]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/10/us/nfl-antonio-brown-lawsuit/index.html

Wonder what the NFL will do about this.

They farmed this one out to the NCAA investigators. They will crack the whip really hard in 2032 when the next lunar eclipse is due.

[Cheeks]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/10/us/nfl-antonio-brown-lawsuit/index.html

Wonder what the NFL will do about this.

Her claims already might have holes in it.  He might actually get some sympathy out of this if some of the other stuff coming out tonight is true.  If.

Some additional information that wasn't in most of the articles


https://mobile.twitter.com/DarrenHeitner/status/1171584983280095233?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1171584983280095233&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fheavy.com%2Fsports%2F2019%2F09%2Fantonio-brown-sexual-assault-patriots-statement%2F

[Dr. Blackheart]

Her claims already might have holes in it.  He might actually get some sympathy out of this if some of the other stuff coming out tonight is true.  If.

Some additional information that wasn't in most of the articles


https://mobile.twitter.com/DarrenHeitner/status/1171584983280095233?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1171584983280095233&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fheavy.com%2Fsports%2F2019%2F09%2Fantonio-brown-sexual-assault-patriots-statement%2F

Squirmy.  You were smart to release him (and Charlie).

[Cheeks]

Squirmy.  You were smart to release him (and Charlie).

I had nothing to due with Charlie, and yes I did release AB.   Smart or lucky....maybe a bit of both.

[#UnleashSean]

Definitely a lot of holes in this story. The whole watching tv while ab did his business behind her and finished on her back just makes no sense.

[forgetful]

Definitely a lot of holes in this story. The whole watching tv while ab did his business behind her and finished on her back just makes no sense.

Interesting that you poke holes in her story, but don't address the holes in AB's. Namely that the accuser has text messages backing up her story, and that contradict his.