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rocky_warrior

Quote from: WarriorFan on December 13, 2019, 10:09:44 PM
Nearly all NBA players are there because they can play elite defense. 

HAHAHAHA

We R Final Four

Quote from: AZMarqfan on December 13, 2019, 10:00:16 PM
So has anyone stood next to him?  Since he's listed at 5'11", I've always assumed he was more like 5'9".
MH is definitely closer to 5'9" than 5'11".

#UnleashSean

Quote from: We R Final Four on December 14, 2019, 08:18:09 AM
MH is definitely closer to 5'9" than 5'11".

I'm 5'9 and am taller then Howard. He may be around 5'8 and a half at most.

jsglow

Rowsey was like 5'8". Agree that M2N isn't 5'11".

brewcity77

Quote from: Johnny B on December 13, 2019, 10:05:33 PM
I've stood directly next to him in a class I had with him a few years ago. I was recently measured at 5'9" without shoes. Markus was about an inch taller than me or so. Hes 5'10"-5'10.5" max.

Quote from: #UnleashJayce on December 14, 2019, 10:22:21 AM
I'm 5'9 and am taller then Howard. He may be around 5'8 and a half at most.

So does this mean Howard is shrinking? Two guys the same height stood next to him and he was taller than one and shorter than the other?

wadesworld

Yeah he was at least as tall as my 5'10" self.

MU82

I see Markus on TV all the time, and he's only about a foot tall on the screen.
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Herman Cain

Latest Mock Draft 1/10/2020

36. Markus Howard

Others of Note
49. Cassius Winston
56. Myles Powell
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

Johnny B


Herman Cain

Quote from: Johnny B on January 12, 2020, 09:25:12 PM
Why is cash of note?
No particular reason other than a preseason Player of the year candidate. PG . etc. Just a reference point
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lawdog77

Quote from: MU82 on December 14, 2019, 03:01:56 PM
I see Markus on TV all the time, and he's only about a foot tall on the screen.
you need a bigger TV. Unfortunately, with my black and white TV with rabbit ears, I dont get the game, so I have to listen to it on the radio. On the radio, he sounds like a Greek God.

Herman Cain

As of 2/18/2020
https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/

42. Markus Howard

Other Notables
52. Cassius Winston
58. Myles Powell
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Jockey

Quote from: brewcity77 on December 14, 2019, 11:59:18 AM
So does this mean Howard is shrinking? Two guys the same height stood next to him and he was taller than one and shorter than the other?

They were mountain climbing together. Markus was the guy in the middle.

MU82

Quote from: Herman Cain on February 24, 2020, 05:06:20 PM
As of 2/18/2020
https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/

42. Markus Howard

Other Notables
52. Cassius Winston
58. Myles Powell

I would take Ty-Shon Alexander over numerous bigger-hyped guards on that list.
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Quote from: MU82 on February 24, 2020, 07:03:55 PM
I would take Ty-Shon Alexander over numerous bigger-hyped guards on that list.
Ty-Shon is ranked 79th on the nbadraft.net big board.
https://www.nbadraft.net/ranking/bigboard/
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JWags85

Quote from: MU82 on February 24, 2020, 07:03:55 PM
I would take Ty-Shon Alexander over numerous bigger-hyped guards on that list.

I think he has the same problem Vander did. Very good, but a little undersized for the 2.  He's really solid all around, but not a lights out shooter or unstoppable scorer. If he was 6'6-6'7 he'd be an easy first round pick I think. Howard is clearly projected to be drafted due to being an unreal/elite shooter, but I don't think Alexander is viewed as being "elite" at anything for the next level.

That being said, he's absolutely my pick for BE POY if not Markus

MU82

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Herman Cain

NBA Draft.net position

50. Markus Howard

Other Notables:

Myles Powell fell off the board.

Ty Shon Alexander not on board .
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JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Nothing other than gut feeling, but I feel like someone will take Markus well before the very end of the draft. He's a guy that fits a niche, has age and maturity on his side, and is by all accounts (well, I guess there's one) a fantastic kid. Someone with several pick that needs a shooter will reach.

Markus isn't the type of guy you bet against. Hot take - early 2nd rounder.
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franklinjerry

Why not a flyer on Miles Powell?

JWags85

Quote from: franklinjerry on April 30, 2020, 08:31:55 PM
Why not a flyer on Miles Powell?

Cause he's a 6'1 volume scoring SG who doesn't shoot particularly well and is an average ball handler?

Markus's accolades were backed up by unreal stats, both raw and advanced numbers, regardless of team success. Stuff that is a product of stuff that translates into very real skills at the next level (creating space, quick release, high arc). Powell's buzz and accolades were based on "intangibles" that are debatable at best and are fluff when projecting someone at the next level. People talking about his NBA projections remind me of when Tebow was drafted. Ignoring his lack of accuracy or throwing skills and saying he was a "winner", he just "wanted it more than anyone else" and had a "will to win", always making his team better.  Unfortunately, almost everyone at a high level can have that said about them.

I'm sure someone takes a chance on him in the late 50s, or a UDFA 2 way G League deal, but I'm not sure what from this past year, especially down the stretch, makes an NBA scout pick him over a young raw project or a better specialist

We R Final Four

Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 30, 2020, 08:25:14 PM
Nothing other than gut feeling, but I feel like someone will take Markus well before the very end of the draft. He's a guy that fits a niche, has age and maturity on his side, and is by all accounts (well, I guess there's one) a fantastic kid. Someone with several pick that needs a shooter will reach.

Markus isn't the type of guy you bet against. Hot take - early 2nd rounder.
Yes—having been thinking of #50 since I saw it. Some GM will grab him....agree early to mid 2nd round.

Golden Avalanche

Quote from: JWags85 on April 30, 2020, 09:08:08 PM
Cause he's a 6'1 volume scoring SG who doesn't shoot particularly well and is an average ball handler?

Markus's accolades were backed up by unreal stats, both raw and advanced numbers, regardless of team success. Stuff that is a product of stuff that translates into very real skills at the next level (creating space, quick release, high arc). Powell's buzz and accolades were based on "intangibles" that are debatable at best and are fluff when projecting someone at the next level. People talking about his NBA projections remind me of when Tebow was drafted. Ignoring his lack of accuracy or throwing skills and saying he was a "winner", he just "wanted it more than anyone else" and had a "will to win", always making his team better.  Unfortunately, almost everyone at a high level can have that said about them.

I'm sure someone takes a chance on him in the late 50s, or a UDFA 2 way G League deal, but I'm not sure what from this past year, especially down the stretch, makes an NBA scout pick him over a young raw project or a better specialist

Holy $hit this is tremendous. Spot on. 

MU82

Quote from: JWags85 on April 30, 2020, 09:08:08 PM
Cause he's a 6'1 volume scoring SG who doesn't shoot particularly well and is an average ball handler?

Markus's accolades were backed up by unreal stats, both raw and advanced numbers, regardless of team success. Stuff that is a product of stuff that translates into very real skills at the next level (creating space, quick release, high arc). Powell's buzz and accolades were based on "intangibles" that are debatable at best and are fluff when projecting someone at the next level. People talking about his NBA projections remind me of when Tebow was drafted. Ignoring his lack of accuracy or throwing skills and saying he was a "winner", he just "wanted it more than anyone else" and had a "will to win", always making his team better.  Unfortunately, almost everyone at a high level can have that said about them.

I'm sure someone takes a chance on him in the late 50s, or a UDFA 2 way G League deal, but I'm not sure what from this past year, especially down the stretch, makes an NBA scout pick him over a young raw project or a better specialist

Great stuff, Wags.

I would take Alexander over Powell in a heartbeat.
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Johnny B

Powell could be the next scottie Reynolds. That being said id be surprised if he doesnt play at least 100 min of nba ball

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