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Re: UConn to BE Rumors
« Reply #275 on: July 03, 2019, 01:03:14 PM »
Marquette somewhat does. They play acha d2 now.
If Marquette went varsity with Men’s and Women’s Hockey I think it would be a successful program in a short period of time.

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Re: UConn to BE Rumors
« Reply #276 on: July 03, 2019, 01:09:37 PM »
If Marquette went varsity with Men’s and Women’s Hockey I think it would be a successful program in a short period of time.

I disagree.  There's very little high school hockey locally, so they'd have to draw recruits from a distance.  I just don't think there's an appetite for hockey in this area.  Plus, huge rosters means lots of scholarships.  Very unlikely we'll see Div. 1 hockey at MU.

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Re: UConn to BE Rumors
« Reply #277 on: July 03, 2019, 01:15:13 PM »
I think MU could sponsor hockey and be reasonably successful, but I agree it is unlikely to happen.

If it was going to happen, it probably would have happened instead of adding mens and womens LAX a few years back
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Re: UConn to BE Rumors
« Reply #278 on: July 03, 2019, 01:32:56 PM »
Marquette somewhat does. They play acha d2 now.

Which isn’t a varsity sport.
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Re: UConn to BE Rumors
« Reply #279 on: July 03, 2019, 07:06:51 PM »
I disagree.  There's very little high school hockey locally, so they'd have to draw recruits from a distance.  I just don't think there's an appetite for hockey in this area.  Plus, huge rosters means lots of scholarships.  Very unlikely we'll see Div. 1 hockey at MU.

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure I once saw a map that showed WI as one of the biggest hockey states for juniors. Not saying it's MN or MI but that there's definitely a surprising base.
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Re: UConn to BE Rumors
« Reply #280 on: July 03, 2019, 09:19:22 PM »
I disagree.  There's very little high school hockey locally, so they'd have to draw recruits from a distance.  I just don't think there's an appetite for hockey in this area.  Plus, huge rosters means lots of scholarships.  Very unlikely we'll see Div. 1 hockey at MU.
College Hockey is done by recruiting from Junior ranks. There is an excess of D1 quality players for a limited group of D1 schools. most kids enter as 21 year old freshman from juniors .MU would be an attractive school compared to the other D1 programs.

Obviously a hockey program would need to be funded so not likely without a big donor to get it started.

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« Reply #281 on: July 03, 2019, 10:10:24 PM »
College Hockey is done by recruiting from Junior ranks. There is an excess of D1 quality players for a limited group of D1 schools. most kids enter as 21 year old freshman from juniors .MU would be an attractive school compared to the other D1 programs.

Obviously a hockey program would need to be funded so not likely without a big donor to get it started.

Would also need to fund a women’s program if some sort too.
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« Reply #282 on: July 03, 2019, 10:42:04 PM »
Would also need to fund a women’s program if some sort too.
Would have to be both for sure .

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Re: UConn to BE Rumors
« Reply #283 on: July 04, 2019, 11:57:07 AM »
If Marquette adds another sport it will be Men’s Volleyball and Women’s Golf for the scholarships.

Neither of which I think will happen anytime in the next decade.

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Re: UConn to BE Rumors
« Reply #284 on: July 07, 2019, 04:20:39 PM »
Does the big east have any schools with varsity men's volleyball? 

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Re: UConn to BE Rumors
« Reply #285 on: July 07, 2019, 04:45:21 PM »
Does the big east have any schools with varsity men's volleyball?

Nah, they would likely join the MIVA with the likes of Loyola, Ohio St, and Lewis.

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« Reply #286 on: July 07, 2019, 09:33:17 PM »
As much as I would love to see men's volleyball become a varsity sport at Marquette, I can't see it happening unless other big east schools did it too.

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« Reply #287 on: July 07, 2019, 09:59:41 PM »
I go to a few UW men’s hockey games. They’ve won multiple national championships, have multiple NHL draft picks (including the Rangers first round in 2018) and barely full half of their seats at the Kohl Center versus their biggest rival.

The only thing I could see appealing to hockey, is most of their games are Friday/ Saturday evenings, giving students something to do in the winter.

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« Reply #288 on: July 07, 2019, 10:27:09 PM »
I go to a few UW men’s hockey games. They’ve won multiple national championships, have multiple NHL draft picks (including the Rangers first round in 2018) and barely full half of their seats at the Kohl Center versus their biggest rival.

The only thing I could see appealing to hockey, is most of their games are Friday/ Saturday evenings, giving students something to do in the winter.
They used to regularly sell out Dane County Coliseum back in the day.

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Re: UConn to BE Rumors
« Reply #289 on: July 08, 2019, 07:41:57 AM »
The emergence of the men's basketball team, at the same time the hockey team has slid away from relevance, has really killed the casual fan's interest in Badger hockey.
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« Reply #290 on: July 08, 2019, 07:52:06 AM »
The emergence of the men's basketball team, at the same time the hockey team has slid away from relevance, has really killed the casual fan's interest in Badger hockey.
Here is a solid research report from last year that supports this notion. Winning always matters .

https://madison.com/wsj/sports/college/hockey/spectator-count-for-wisconsin-badgers-men-s-hockey-home-games/article_8196e185-74c5-58ed-bf83-7ac8a1c11a57.html

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« Reply #291 on: July 08, 2019, 08:46:38 AM »
I'd love to see Marquette have a hockey team but it's pretty doubtful.  It's a big investment for a university that prides itself on prioritizing basketball.  Equipment, facilities, travel, sports medicine, etc.  And you'd need the women's side too.  Probably a better chance of baseball / softball.

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« Reply #292 on: July 08, 2019, 06:54:06 PM »
I'd love to see Marquette have a hockey team but it's pretty doubtful.  It's a big investment for a university that prides itself on prioritizing basketball.  Equipment, facilities, travel, sports medicine, etc.  And you'd need the women's side too.  Probably a better chance of baseball / softball.

Could they get away with women's field hockey rather than ice hockey? Could be a heck of a lot cheaper than ice hockey
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Re: UConn to BE Rumors
« Reply #293 on: July 09, 2019, 12:43:13 PM »
I just got an email notification from the XL Center notifying me of this.

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Re: UConn to BE Rumors
« Reply #294 on: July 09, 2019, 01:08:05 PM »
I just got an email notification from the XL Center notifying me of this.

Kind of funny in light of the fact that absent some agreement with the AAC (which I'm sure will come), they can't actually join the BigEast until the 2022 season.
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« Reply #295 on: July 09, 2019, 01:10:02 PM »
Kind of funny in light of the fact that absent some agreement with the AAC (which I'm sure will come), they can't actually join the BigEast until the 2022 season.
True, but UConn is obviously trying to build a season ticket base while the iron is hot.

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« Reply #296 on: July 09, 2019, 01:17:39 PM »
True, but UConn is obviously trying to build a season ticket base while the iron is hot.

Of course.  As they should.
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Re: UConn to BE Rumors
« Reply #297 on: July 09, 2019, 01:57:50 PM »
Could they get away with women's field hockey rather than ice hockey? Could be a heck of a lot cheaper than ice hockey

Women's field hockey typically rosters about 20 players, same as ice hockey.  But the field hockey scholarship limit is 12 while ice is 18.  So probably not.

But add field hockey and women's bowling (limit of 5), and maybe that's close enough?

That said, ice hockey is a massive investment, and it's unlikely that MU would ever consider potentially cannibalizing its only revenue positive sport to - in the best case scenario - break even on hockey.

Keep in mind that the primary reason MU added LAX a few years back was because of the Big East's sport sponsorship minimums.  Adding sports at a private, urban D-I with <25% enrollment of the land grants is a very tall order without significant (and ongoing) financial backing.  And Benny's already committed his dollars to the Thunderdome (which will not be ice-capable).
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Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

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« Reply #298 on: July 09, 2019, 02:06:28 PM »
Women's field hockey typically rosters about 20 players, same as ice hockey.  But the field hockey scholarship limit is 12 while ice is 18.  So probably not.

But add field hockey and women's bowling (limit of 5), and maybe that's close enough?

That said, ice hockey is a massive investment, and it's unlikely that MU would ever consider potentially cannibalizing its only revenue positive sport to - in the best case scenario - break even on hockey.

Keep in mind that the primary reason MU added LAX a few years back was because of the Big East's sport sponsorship minimums.  Adding sports at a private, urban D-I with <25% enrollment of the land grants is a very tall order without significant (and ongoing) financial backing.  And Benny's already committed his dollars to the Thunderdome (which will not be ice-capable).

How many does golf have? Could do women's golf and women's field hockey. Then have Men's Ice hockey.

 I know it won't happen either way. MU would be too scared of it cutting into the basketball fandom and yet they'd need butts in the seats at Hockey games to make it viable.
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« Reply #299 on: July 09, 2019, 07:44:46 PM »
I'd love to see Marquette have a hockey team but it's pretty doubtful.  It's a big investment for a university that prides itself on prioritizing basketball.  Equipment, facilities, travel, sports medicine, etc.  And you'd need the women's side too.  Probably a better chance of baseball / softball.

I'd stay away from baseball at the d1 level in Wisconsin