Author Topic: Jayce Johnson to Marquette (Read 37561 times)

oldwarrior81 · « **Reply #150 on:** May 13, 2019, 10:12:56 AM »

He'll have his work cut out for him to dethrone Derrick Wilson from recent memory.
Wilson only shot 50% one season. His freshman year he was 10/19 from the line.

Although I still remember Ric Cobb. 65/166 as a senior. 39.2%
I think Jon Harris and Marcus Jackson were also around 40% career shooters. Wasn't Harris under 25% one year?

moomoo · « **Reply #151 on:** May 13, 2019, 11:05:52 AM »

Saint Louis had three talented bigs who played significant minutes (until a transfer).

They often had any two of them play at the same time, with three guards.

DJ Foreman (6-8, 240) - similar to Theo's game,

Hasahn French (6-7, 235) - a carbon copy of Ed Morrow

and Carte'are Gordon (6-9, 230) - similar build to JJ

This presented a good interchangeable front line that beat Butler and Seton Hall, and that's without the much better guards and wings that Marquette has.

lawdog77 · « **Reply #152 on:** May 13, 2019, 11:38:27 AM »

Quote from: moomoo on May 13, 2019, 11:05:52 AM

Saint Louis had three talented bigs who played significant minutes (until a transfer).

They often had any two of them play at the same time, with three guards.

DJ Foreman (6-8, 240) - similar to Theo's game,

Hasahn French (6-7, 235) - a carbon copy of Ed Morrow

and Carte'are Gordon (6-9, 230) - similar build to JJ

This presented a good interchangeable front line that beat Butler and Seton Hall, and that's without the much better guards and wings that Marquette has.

We do not aspire to be Saint Louis.

moomoo · « **Reply #153 on:** May 13, 2019, 11:49:18 AM »

Quote from: lawdog77 on May 13, 2019, 11:38:27 AM

We do not aspire to be Saint Louis.

Yes, I was expecting this response.

That is not where I am going.

St Louis instituted a revolving three big system where two of them play and they were surrounded by three guards.

Both the bigs and the guards were not nearly as talented or athletic as Marquette's players.

This strategy brought them success against two Big East teams last year, as well as an average Oregon State team.

So I am only making a recent comparison to a system that was somewhat effective against Power conference teams, even without the talent of Marquette.

I watched St. Louis because Marquette was on the fringe in pursuing Hasahn French a few years back and I really liked his game.

Marcus92 · « **Reply #154 on:** May 13, 2019, 01:11:30 PM »

Quote from: oldwarrior81 on May 13, 2019, 10:12:56 AM

He'll have his work cut out for him to dethrone Derrick Wilson from recent memory. Wilson only shot 50% one season. His freshman year he was 10/19 from the line.

Although I still remember Ric Cobb. 65/166 (39.2%) as a senior. I think Jon Harris and Marcus Jackson were also around 40% career shooters. Wasn't Harris under 25% one year?

Good memory for awful foul shooting.

One correction: Derrick Wilson never shot even 50% at the line in a single season. His best year percentage-wise was as a senior: 34-72 (47.2%). He was 84-195 (45.6%) for his career (2011-15). So consistently pretty bad.

Marcus Jackson was worse (39.4%) in his Marquette career. Jon Harris was equally terrible, with a career FT mark of 39.7%. During his sophomore year, Harris made just 13 of 51 shots (25.5%) from the line.

leever · « **Reply #155 on:** May 13, 2019, 01:39:40 PM »

Quote from: oldwarrior81 on May 13, 2019, 10:12:56 AM

He'll have his work cut out for him to dethrone Derrick Wilson from recent memory.
Wilson only shot 50% one season. His freshman year he was 10/19 from the line.

Although I still remember Ric Cobb. 65/166 as a senior. 39.2%
I think Jon Harris and Marcus Jackson were also around 40% career shooters. Wasn't Harris under 25% one year?

Not sure Ric Cobb hit the rim on 50% of his foul shots. Always an adventure.

Dawson Rental · « **Reply #156 on:** May 13, 2019, 01:48:50 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on May 12, 2019, 09:50:08 PM

Rod Grosse?

Why do you want to make me cry?

MU_Beav · « **Reply #157 on:** May 13, 2019, 03:26:31 PM »

Quote from: 4everCrean on May 13, 2019, 01:48:50 PM

Why do you want to make me cry?

That Luerk, nethan, Grosse frontline was special. Loved Joe, though - very talented.

lawdog77 · « **Reply #158 on:** May 13, 2019, 03:58:40 PM »

Quote from: MU_Beav on May 13, 2019, 03:26:31 PM

That Luerk, nethan, Grosse frontline was special. Loved Joe, though - very talented.

throw in roman.muller too

Nukem2 · « **Reply #159 on:** May 13, 2019, 04:18:28 PM »

Quote from: lawdog77 on May 13, 2019, 03:58:40 PM

throw in roman.muller too

Majerus called him the biggest sleeper since Rip Van Winkle. He ultimately was a solid contributor on Majerus’s Ball state team that went to the NCAAs.

Johnny B · « **Reply #160 on:** May 13, 2019, 04:44:16 PM »

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on May 08, 2019, 04:42:03 PM

Must be the Musical.

Think they are tired of people just calling them the appropriate term morons

lawdog77 · « **Reply #161 on:** May 13, 2019, 05:37:06 PM »

Quote from: Johnny B on May 13, 2019, 04:44:16 PM

Think they are tired of people just calling them the appropriate term morons

ban this guy

Billy Hoyle · « **Reply #162 on:** May 13, 2019, 06:09:37 PM »

Quote from: oldwarrior81 on May 13, 2019, 10:12:56 AM

I think Jon Harris and Marcus Jackson were also around 40% career shooters. Wasn't Harris under 25% one year?

It was so hard to watch Jon shoot FT's because one could tell it was mental. He was a 80% FT shooter in HS and just lost it. I still remember him going 4-4 during OT when we lost in 3 OT to Louisville in 2001. When he hit those free throws I was positive that was a sign we were going to win.