Entrance Exam Cheating Scandal

[4everwarriors]

Next time eye see an able bodied purson existin' a vehicle parked in a handicap parkin' spot wit a valid permit, gotta assume der rich, hey?

[warriorchick]

Can you use the money in a 529 to pay bribes to get your kid into college?

It will cost you extra to get the university to include it on your 1098-T.

[79Warrior]

Systems are gamed all the time, by all walks of life, all levels of income.  Examples as far as the eye can see.  All it takes is a few people to know the right people and away we go.

The very wealthy have it the easiest in the gaming "game". Money talks baby.

[dgies9156]

Ultra rich buying their kids access into college.  Glad the feds are going after this.

Here's the stupid question: If your children cannot make it into a university without extremely large bribes, under the table payments or cheating with entrance exams, what makes you think they'll succeed once they get in?

Every college has their share of legacies. Anyone who says otherwise has been smoking Denver Delight way too long. But goodness, this is beyond even accepting an occasionally marginal legacy. Cheating on entrance exams.... Not Cool!

[Pakuni]

Here's the stupid question: If your children cannot make it into a university without extremely large bribes, under the table payments or cheating with entrance exams, what makes you think they'll succeed once they get in?

Every college has their share of legacies. Anyone who says otherwise has been smoking Denver Delight way too long. But goodness, this is beyond even accepting an occasionally marginal legacy. Cheating on entrance exams.... Not Cool!

If you can buy your kid admission, you probably can buy your kid a diploma, as well.

[Billy Hoyle]

Here's the stupid question: If your children cannot make it into a university without extremely large bribes, under the table payments or cheating with entrance exams, what makes you think they'll succeed once they get in?

Every college has their share of legacies. Anyone who says otherwise has been smoking Denver Delight way too long. But goodness, this is beyond even accepting an occasionally marginal legacy. Cheating on entrance exams.... Not Cool!

Legacies and the like are protected when they're admitted. At many of the top schools all students are almost guaranteed a degree.  Over 80% of Harvard students graduate with a 3.5 or higher and they had a sit-in protest in Harvard Yard when former President Laurence Summers proposed ending grade inflation. Summers didn't last.

[jsglow]

When Felicity told him what was going on this morning.

[wadesworld]

https://www.greensboro.com/news/crime/wake-forest-coach-charged-in-admissions-bribery-scheme/article_88ca415c-f943-591c-8ae8-5e023687fc68.html

Coached against this guy many times while he was running the USC men's program and the SCVC club.  Also knew him from his recruiting a couple of our players pretty aggressively.

Of all the college coaches I interacted with he is by far the least surprising person that could've popped up in this.  The guy was an absolute sleezeball.

[Pakuni]

When Felicity told him what was going on this morning.

More like:

[Jockey]

Here's the stupid question: If your children cannot make it into a university without extremely large bribes, under the table payments or cheating with entrance exams, what makes you think they'll succeed once they get in?

Excellent point.
and, in fact, Loughlin's daughter talked openly about avoiding class and attending parties.

But my 1st thought was "how dumb does your kid have to be to pay this kind of money to get your kid into USC or UCLA?". I suspect the dope didn't fall far from the tree.

[Dawson Rental]

R Kelly couldn’t swing it

That can happen when your moolah is buried overseas.  Unanticipated expenses can bite you in the rear, but that's the only way to run up 160k in child support without getting garnished.  Luckily, a Judge was around who finally said enough is enough.

[manny31]

So here's the thing, what do I do when I try to rub this the face of my GU friends? If my guess is correct they will wear this scandal as a badge of honor.
Damn Jesuits:(

[Not A Serious Person]

So here's the thing, what do I do when I try to rub this the face of my GU friends? If my guess is correct they will wear this scandal as a badge of honor.
Damn Jesuits:(

They are all happy that rich people will pay bribes to get their kids into school.  It means their school is desirable.

Part of the white privilege.

[MomofMUltiples]

Apparently, this isn't Lori's first offense.

[MarquetteDano]

What annoys me most is the tax deductibility of it.  It is one thing to take up a spot from someone more deserving... one could argue the school comes out better (and future students) having more money.

But the fact that tax payers subsidize 30% (or more) of it is the part that pisses me off.

[Not A Serious Person]

What annoys me most is the tax deductibility of it.  It is one thing to take up a spot from someone more deserving... one could argue the school comes out better (and future students) having more money.

But the fact that tax payers subsidize 30% (or more) of it is the part that pisses me off.

That means they engaged in tax fraud so the parents are in big time trouble regardless of how much money they have.

[Not A Serious Person]

@kellyannepolls
.@LoriLoughlin & @FelicityHuffman indicted for lying and buying spots in college.

They worried their daughters are as stupid as their mothers

[Billy Hoyle]

Excellent point.
and, in fact, Loughlin's daughter talked openly about avoiding class and attending parties.

But my 1st thought was "how dumb does your kid have to be to pay this kind of money to get your kid into USC or UCLA?". I suspect the dope didn't fall far from the tree.

Both are very difficult schools to get into.

USC has an admissions rate of 18%, UCLA of 12% for in-state kids so they saw some value in doing so. Plus, it looks like one of the kids was nothing but some internet celebrity and wanted to be in LA to further her career while partying in college.

[Jockey]

Both are very difficult schools to get into.

USC has an admissions rate of 18%, UCLA of 12% for in-state kids so they saw some value in doing so. Plus, it looks like one of the kids was nothing but some internet celebrity and wanted to be in LA to further her career while partying in college.

Thanks, Billy for the stats. I was engaging in a bit of (reverse) hyperbole, but more than that, I was comparing USC and UCLA to other schools involved like Stanford or Yale.

[Cheeks]

Excellent point.
and, in fact, Loughlin's daughter talked openly about avoiding class and attending parties.

But my 1st thought was "how dumb does your kid have to be to pay this kind of money to get your kid into USC or UCLA?". I suspect the dope didn't fall far from the tree.

Depends what they went to school for. USC and UCLA have two of the top 3 or 4 Film Schools in the country.  Getting in is nearly impossible.  They have a few other programs also ranked very highly with only a few slots where it is a miracle to get in.  USC is about $70K a year now.  My daughter is trying for film school and we've set expectations as best we can without being dream crushers that it is going to difficult. 

If I had to guess, Laughlin and Mossimo net worth is probably $75M to $100M, so this isn't a huge drop for them to throw that kind of cash around.

[warriorchick]

That means they engaged in tax fraud so the parents are in big time trouble regardless of how much money they have.

It's worse than that.  The "charitable foundation" had millions of dollars of revenue that was shielded from tax.

The mission statement on their tax return is hilarious:

The Key Worldwide Foundation endeavors to provide education that would normally be unattainable to underprivileged students, not only attainable but realistic. With programs that are designed to assist young people in every day situations, and educational situations, we hope to open new avenues of educational access to students that would normally have no access to these programs. Our contributions to major athletic university programs, may help to provide placement to students that may not have access under normal channels.


I can't help but notice that one of the organizations they donated to was DePaul.

https://pdf.guidestar.org/PDF_Images/2016/461/603/2016-461603030-0eb6691f-9.pdf

[Cheeks]

They are all happy that rich people will pay bribes to get their kids into school.  It means their school is desirable.

Part of the white privilege.

UCLA has more Asian students than any other group.  Asian + Hispanic students are 50% of student body.  Whites make up 27% at UCLA, the second largest group.

[rocket surgeon]

And for those of you that surf or just like the Mossimo clothing line (skews a little younger but they have some cool duds for our age groups), the founder of Mossimo is married to Lori.

Things you might not have known.

 maybe his chews aren't as ugly as these...

[AZMarqfan]

just curious, but don't our federal authorities have better things to do than go after universities and celebrities?  Wouldn't this fit under the concept of victimless crime?  Is paying lots of money to get them into school really a crime? 

[Cheeks]

just curious, but don't our federal authorities have better things to do than go after universities and celebrities?  Wouldn't this fit under the concept of victimless crime?  Is paying lots of money to get them into school really a crime?

Wouldn't potential "victims" be students not admitted on the merits because they were passed up by fake applications, scores and resumes?   I wouldn't call that without victims.