Big East Conference Results/ NCAA/NIT/CBI

[Herman Cain]

Big East Net Rankings as of games of Sunday January 27. Georgetown took a huge leap up and The Johnnies got punished.
New Old
19   19   Marquette   
21   21   Villanova   
49   39   St. John's
50   50   Butler   
58   57   Creighton   
64   60   Seton Hall   
73   72   Providence   
83   86   Xavier   
88   109   Georgetown   
102   99   DePaul   

[PGsHeroes32]

Do you consider Paschall a worse player than Morrow despite Morrow being a top 100 RSCI player?  For that matter, do you think Morrow and Booth are essentially equal as their rating implies?

In terms of total talent, Nova has more but it is young, as you state.  Our big 3 are up there, then throw in Theo as a rising star, but Nova has more of it dispersed throughout in my opinion.

Their young talent doesn't much contribute this year tho.

Their main contributors are 2 guys who are gone next year. Then it's Gillespie who while a sophomore he got solid PT on a natty title team.

Novas Big 3 of Booth, Paschall and Gillepsie is no younger or more talented than Howard and the Hauser duo. Nova is much older actually.

Our role players are a little more experienced since they play Bey a freshman and our freshman is in our big 3.

[Goose]

Herman

Agreed. I am just saying that they have the ability to beat those teams. Not saying it will be easy, but more than one or two slips against the Crappy 8 should not happen. Again, I am more interested on how we will do against teams not in the Crappy 8.

[MomofMUltiples]

Crappy 8 reminds me of when the Big Ten actually had 10 teams, but Michigan and Ohio State were so dominant in football that it was sometimes referred to as the Big 2 and Little 8.  But give ourselves more credit - I'd rather think of the BEast right now as the Exceptional 2 and Normal 8.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I have felt for some time we can control our own destiny by virtue of the fact that every game we play is realistically winnable. We have to stay focused on the Crappy 8 teams  as those guys are going to be gunning for us. They have the potential to really screw up any potential good seeding we have.

The crazy thing is, pretty sure any of the "Crappy 8" could beat pretty much any team not ranked in the top 10-15 on any given night.  Every team in the BE is a legit top 75 team. 

[cheebs09]

Big East Net Rankings as of games of Sunday January 27. Georgetown took a huge leap up and The Johnnies got punished.
New Old
19   19   Marquette   
21   21   Villanova   
49   39   St. John's
50   50   Butler   
58   57   Creighton   
64   60   Seton Hall   
73   72   Providence   
83   86   Xavier   
88   109   Georgetown   
102   99   DePaul

Thanks for the research on this. It would be great if GTOWN and Xavier could get up to 75 to add to our Q1 win total.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Thanks for the research on this. It would be great if GTOWN and Xavier could get up to 75 to add to our Q1 win total.

No.  Gtown and Xavier winning games is not good for anyone in the league, unless you support a two bid Big East.

[cheebs09]

No.  Gtown and Xavier winning games is not good for anyone in the league, unless you support a two bid Big East.

At this point, I'm cheering for what helps MU's seed. I'm fine with sacrificing a tournament team for a better seed. I understand it costs some tourney credits, but having cheered for the conference the last 4 years, it's good to cheer for our interests a bit.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

At this point, I'm cheering for what helps MU's seed. I'm fine with sacrificing a tournament team for a better seed. I understand it costs some tourney credits, but having cheered for the conference the last 4 years, it's good to cheer for our interests a bit.

I mean...so am I.  Obviously I care far more about MU than other Big East teams.  But whatever incremental benefit an X or Gtowns NET ranking gets from knocking off other BE teams isn't going to make a difference in MU's seeding.  And in doing so is going to hurt those other team's NET rankings in the process, who MU play just as many times.

Its going to shake out how its going to shake out.  Probably a 4 bid conference, with an outside shot at 5 if Hall, SJU and one of Butler/CU/PC wake the fuk up.  But if its Marquette and Nova, and then 8 teams below .500...man, that's going to be gross for the league.

[Herman Cain]

No.  Gtown and Xavier winning games is not good for anyone in the league, unless you support a two bid Big East.

The Hall has an excellent non conference resume and needs to regain their mojo. I think they can . Providence is a more formidable team with Reeves back. One of Creighton Butler and The Johnnies has to get on a winning streak . Xavier Georgetown and DePaul only real chance is to win BET.

One thing to keep in mind is a lot can happen over the next 10 or 11 games. So let's see how things end up when the dust setttles.

[JakeBarnes]

The Hall has an excellent non confidence resume and needs to regain their mojo. I think they can . Providence is a more formidable team with Reeves back. One of Creighton Butler and The Johnnies has to get on a winning streak . Xavier Georgetown and DePaul only real chance is to win BET.

One thing to keep in mind is a lot can happen over the next 10 or 11 games. So let's see how things end up when the dust setttles.

This is probably why they are playing so poorly.

[We R Final Four]

LOL!

[Herman Cain]

This is probably why they are playing so poorly.

Correction noted and amended.

[Herman Cain]

This is a solid research report on the circumstances that Seton Hall seems to find itself in every year.

https://www.app.com/story/sports/college/2019/01/29/seton-hall-basketball-providence/2698590002/

[MU82]

But if its Marquette and Nova, and then 8 teams below .500...man, that's going to be gross for the league.

As long as we're not one of the 8, I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it!

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

As long as we're not one of the 8, I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it!

That would require QUITE the collapse.  Hiroshima indeed. 

[Herman Cain]

Good PR for DePaul. 

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2019/01/24/pantelis-xidias-depaul-walk-bench-mob-celebration?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=sinow&xid=socialflow_twitter_si&utm_medium=social

[Mr. Nielsen]

8-0 run by Seton Hall. Pirates up 16-11 over Providence on FSN.

[Mr. Nielsen]

Providence has open the 2nd half on a 20-6 run. Up by 7 on FSN.

Villanova 23-20 over DePaul on CBSSN.

[Mr. Nielsen]

Powell with 31 points. Seton Hall beats Providence 65-63.

Villanova up at DePaul 51-38 on CBSSN

[PGsHeroes32]

Big win for Hall

[brewcity77]

Did anyone else see the team picture for SHU after the game? Looked like the kind of thing you'd do after winning a conference title. Seemed odd.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Big win for Hall

Which means Marquette and Nova are still the only two teams with a .500 record or better. Trend will continue with a St. Johns win over Creighton.

[Mr. Nielsen]

Did anyone else see the team picture for SHU after the game? Looked like the kind of thing you'd do after winning a conference title. Seemed odd.

I did. Might be a copy cat of what some NFL teams do?

[Herman Cain]

Seton Hall needed that win over Cooley & Company.