Markus Climbing The Ladder

[TallTitan34]

He could beat the record by 1000 points.   That's insane.

[GooooMarquette]

3 BET and 6 NCAA games gets us 40 games.

That means the BET finals and the NCAA finals.

We got this.

[barfolomew]

Since I love the "if" game, I wanted to see where Markus would stand at the end of a 4-year MU career.
Assuming 11 games for the remainder of this year (2 BET + 2 NCAA), and assuming 36 games next year (full sched. + 2 + 2), and assuming Markus returns, and assuming he averages 25ppg the rest of his career, here is where he'd be all time NCAA:

NAME         POS   SCHOOL      PTS      CAREER AVG
Pete Maravich*      G   LSU         3,667   44.2   
Freeman Williams   F/G   Portland State   3,249   30.7   
Lionel Simmons      F   La Salle      3,217   24.6   
Alphonso Ford      G   Miss Valley St   3,165   29.0   
Doug McDermott   F   Creighton      3,150   21.7   
Harry Kelly      F   Texas Southern   3,066   27.9   
Keydren Clark      G   Saint Peter's   3,058   25.9   
Hersey Hawkins      G   Bradley      3,008   25.5   
Oscar Robertson*   G   Cincinnati      2,973   33.8   
Danny Manning      F   Kansas      2,951   20.1   
Chris Clemons^      G   Campbell      2,930   24.2   
Alfredrick Hughes   G   Loyola (IL)   2,914   24.3   
Elvin Hayes*      C/F   Houston      2,884   31.0   
Mike Daum^      F   S Dakota St   2,883   22.2   
Markus Howard      G   Marquette      2,883   21.0
Tyler Hansbrough   F   North Carolina   2,872   20.2   
Larry Bird*      F   Indiana State   2,850   30.3   
Otis Birdsong      G   Houston       2,832   24.4   
Kevin Bradshaw      G   Bethune-Cook   2,804   25.3   
Allan Houston      G/F   Tennessee      2,801   21.9   
J. J. Redick      G   Duke         2,769   19.9   
Hank Gathers      F/C   USC/Loy Mmt   2,723   23.3   

Interesting that there are two active players on this list in Chris Clemons and Mike Daum.
A couple of BE and NCAA championship game appearances, and Markus could join the 3,000 pt club!

[Silent Verbal]

For those who were around, what was it like watching Maravich play?  I can't even imagine a guy averaging 44.2 points for his career, especially without the 3 point shot.  Didn't we beat one of his LSU teams in the NIT?

[oldwarrior81]

Maravich averaged 39 shots a game plus 14 free throw attempts.

Espn has been running a SEC storied feature on him.  A pretty good watch if you want to see him on the court.

article from SI on the 1970 NIT tournament which included Marquette facing LSU in the semis.
https://www.si.com/vault/1970/03/30/554189/the-upstaging-of-pistol-pete

[forgetful]

Jordan Howard isn't that far down the list either with 2524 pts. Wonder if they will be the highest scoring brother duo?

[SaveOD238]

Jordan Howard isn't that far down the list either with 2524 pts. Wonder if they will be the highest scoring brother duo?

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/leaders/pts-player-career.html

This list only goes back to 1985, and so does not include Maravich and others, but a quick glance at the top 100 or so and I don't see any duplicate last names.  That's rather unscientific, but I have a hard time believing that any brother DUO will beat Howard and Howard, especially if Markus plays a fourth year.  They'll easily be over 4,500 by the end of 2019 (already at 4232) and could approach 5,500 by end of 2020.

Tyler and Ben Hansbrough have 4485 between them, which is the highest pair I can find.

[Galway Eagle]

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/leaders/pts-player-career.html

This list only goes back to 1985, and so does not include Maravich and others, but a quick glance at the top 100 or so and I don't see any duplicate last names.  That's rather unscientific, but I have a hard time believing that any brother DUO will beat Howard and Howard, especially if Markus plays a fourth year.  They'll easily be over 4,500 by the end of 2019 (already at 4232) and could approach 5,500 by end of 2020.

Tyler and Ben Hansbrough have 4485 between them, which is the highest pair I can find.

only brothers ive seen on there were the Currys

[4everwarriors]

Maravich averaged 39 shots a game plus 14 free throw attempts.

Espn has been running a SEC storied feature on him.  A pretty good watch if you want to see him on the court.

article from SI on the 1970 NIT tournament which included Marquette facing LSU in the semis.
https://www.si.com/vault/1970/03/30/554189/the-upstaging-of-pistol-pete

Pistol Pete met dafeet, hey?

[oldwarrior81]

only brothers ive seen on there were the Currys

don't forget Papa Dell with 2385 with the Hokies.

[BCHoopster]

For those who were around, what was it like watching Maravich play?  I can't even imagine a guy averaging 44.2 points for his career, especially without the 3 point shot.  Didn't we beat one of his LSU teams in the NIT?

As enjoyable it is to watch Markus, Pete was even better to watch.  Had great range and with his size could score inside and outside.  Coach Maravich let him do what
ever he wanted.  Go on youtube to watch his game was amazing.  He was in the old Milwaukee Classic, Wisky, MU, Florida St. with Dave Cowens, set rebound record for
that event and Pistol. It was one of the best early season events in the country at that time.  Fun times.  George Thompson was the MVP I think.

[SaveOD238]

only brothers ive seen on there were the Currys

2635+2101= 4736 

That's within the range of Markus+Jordan possibilities THIS YEAR EARLY NEXT YEAR.

I don't see Markus scoring another 500 points just this year.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Its odd to think about this so early, but Markus will likely start his ascent past some all-time greats on the scoring list in the next few games.

Jerel McNeal - 1,985
Lazar Hayward - 1,859
George Thompson - 1,773
Dominic James - 1,749
MARKUS 1744 Through DePaul
Butch Lee - 1,735
Travis Diener - 1,691
Brian Wardle - 1,690
Tony Smith - 1,688
Wesley Matthews - 1,673
Bo Ellis - 1,663
Darius Johnson-Odom - 1,649
Damon Key - 1,647
Dean Meminger - 1,637
Trevor Powell - 1,571
Steve Novak - 1,567
Don Kojis - 1,504
Bob Wolf - 1,479
Roney Eford - 1,471
Aaron Hutchins - 1,439
Don Kojis - 1,504
Bob Wolf - 1,479
Roney Eford - 1,471
Aaron Hutchins - 1,439

Butch goes down.  DJ next.

[SaveOD238]

There's a pretty good chance Markus is #3 after the Butler game.  Wow.

[StillAWarrior]

Butch goes down.  DJ next.

Top three definitely within reach against Butler.

[Class71]

For those who were around, what was it like watching Maravich play?  I can't even imagine a guy averaging 44.2 points for his career, especially without the 3 point shot.  Didn't we beat one of his LSU teams in the NIT?

Great one dimensional player who was shutdown tight by The Dream. Remember his father was his college coach.so the green light was always on.

[brewcity77]

Howard now tied for 7th with Matthews. On pace to pass Rowsey in the Villanova rematch.

716  '18 Rowsey   (20.5)
710  '03 Wade   (21.5)
694  '18 Howard  (20.4) 
693  '09 McNeal   (19.8)
689  '90 T Smith   (23.8)
664  '68 Thompson   (22.9)
641 '19 Howard (25.6)
641  '09 Matthews   (18.3)
628  '77 B Lee   (19.6)

[MuMark]

Pistol Pete might have been the most entertaining player in college basketball history.

So fun to watch.......flashy doesn't begin to cover it.

[warriors1991]

6 more regular season games
2 BE games
2 (God I hope way more than 2) Tourney games.

25.0 ppg in 10 games = 250 more.......

That would put him 9 ahead of Jerel.

At this point, does anyone out there really doubt that he can??

[Stretchdeltsig]

True.  Pistol Pete was incredible.  I saw him score 52, but remember his passing to teammates was magical.  He bounced several passes off teammates chests because he would look the opposite way when passing.

[Heisenberg]

6 more regular season games
2 BE games
2 (God I hope way more than 2) Tourney games.

25.0 ppg in 10 games = 250 more.......

That would put him 9 ahead of Jerel.

At this point, does anyone out there really doubt that he can??

This would also put him at 890 or so for the season.

Added in one more BE game (finals) and two more Tourney games (FF) and a 40+ game along the way and 1,000 season is in the conversation.

[Fullodds]

Great one dimensional player who was shutdown tight by The Dream. Remember his father was his college coach.so the green light was always on.

One dimensional?  The guy also averaged 6 boards and over 5 assists in his college career. 

[The Lens]

We're a 30 point game away from passing George in 3 years.  This is truly amazing. 

[Johnny B]

How much did Lazar average his fresh year and who the hell is George Thompson? I'm 22 have mercy

[Marcus92]

Lazar Hayward wasn't a big scorer early on, averaging just 6.6 ppg his freshman season (2006-07). But that was on a team with Dominic James (14.9 ppg), Jerel McNeal (14.7 ppg), Wesley Matthews (12.6 ppg) -- plus experienced role players Dan Fitzgerald (8.1 ppg) and Ousmane Barro (7.4 ppg).

George Thompson is one of the true greats to ever wear a Marquette uniform. He held the career scoring record for more than 40 years. His #24 is hanging in the rafters.