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Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 01, 2019, 10:26:19 AM
Take care of business the rest of the season and MU is safely a 3.  I think 4 is the floor unless we lose 5 in a row, which I can't see happening.

Agreed. Still a 3 on bracket matrix (http://bracketmatrix.com/). Don't forget, Lunardi is average when it comes to bracket predictions: placed 68/127 over 5 year avg

SaveOD238

Quote from: fjm on March 01, 2019, 08:38:51 AM
This is not MUBB related but saw this and laughed.

https://twitter.com/wabash1kc/status/1101301294600540160?s=21

The Big XII meme war is a thing of legends on r/collegebasketball on Reddit.

muguru

Quote from: HowardsWorld on March 01, 2019, 07:37:46 AM
You need to have a freaking pry bar to get Wisconsin off that 4 line.

More like a crane! They are another great example of what I'm talking about...though none of these guys are committee members(and we don't know how the comm feels), You have seen teams that have lost games(in some cases multiple) since the reveal show, and they don't move...at all. Yet, MU loses at Nova, and boom! They drop a line. Again, We don't know how the committee thinks or feels about any of this, but I am and always have been skeptical of the committee and IF it played out this way, you can understand why. Why are some teams(like UW for example), given a longer leash if they lose games, then others are, like MU?? MU still has a better resume in terms of Q1 wins.
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

BM1090

Why should Wisconsin not be a 4 or 5?

They have 1 bad loss. They have wins over Iowa, Oklahoma, NC State, @ Xavier, Michigan and Maryland.


TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: muguru on March 01, 2019, 02:41:08 PM
More like a crane! They are another great example of what I'm talking about...though none of these guys are committee members(and we don't know how the comm feels), You have seen teams that have lost games(in some cases multiple) since the reveal show, and they don't move...at all. Yet, MU loses at Nova, and boom! They drop a line. Again, We don't know how the committee thinks or feels about any of this, but I am and always have been skeptical of the committee and IF it played out this way, you can understand why. Why are some teams(like UW for example), given a longer leash if they lose games, then others are, like MU?? MU still has a better resume in terms of Q1 wins.

1. We don't know that Marquette dropped a seed line
2. At the bracket reveal we were the last 3 seed. Since then, Houston is undefeated and Kansas/Purdue has had the same amount of losses, why would we have moved up?
3. Since the bracket reveal, Texas Tech (who was rated between 18-20) has gone undefeated including beating Kansas by a bajillion, so if they did pass us, its not like it would be a controversial pass
4. We don't know that Wisconsin hasn't dropped a seed line
5. Literally all the teams around Wisconsin have been losing, to worse teams than Wisconsin has
6. Who would you replace Wisconsin with? Maybe Florida State (who has two sub-100 losses) or Virginia Tech (who besides beating a Zion-less Duke and Purdue has beaten no one) but I don't see anyone else with a more deserving resume
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


BM1090

Bracketville still has us 10th and the 2nd best 3

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: MUeagle1090 on March 01, 2019, 04:44:45 PM
Bracketville still has us 10th and the 2nd best 3

Curious because I haven't followed it, did bracketville make adjustments after the bracket reveal?
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


BM1090

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 01, 2019, 04:51:52 PM
Curious because I haven't followed it, did bracketville make adjustments after the bracket reveal?

Yes, I believe they did.

bilsu

We dropped not only because we lost to Villanova, but because St. John's keeps losing games they should win. It makes our two losses to them look even worse. Villanova losing three straight games before they beat us also did not help. Had they not loss those three games, we probably would of still been a three even with the loss to them.

BM1090

Quote from: bilsu on March 01, 2019, 09:16:23 PM
We dropped not only because we lost to Villanova, but because St. John's keeps losing games they should win. It makes our two losses to them look even worse. Villanova losing three straight games before they beat us also did not help. Had they not loss those three games, we probably would of still been a three even with the loss to them.

Nah. Because they are losing to teams we beat, giving us better wins.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: bilsu on March 01, 2019, 09:16:23 PM
We dropped not only because we lost to Villanova, but because St. John's keeps losing games they should win. It makes our two losses to them look even worse. Villanova losing three straight games before they beat us also did not help. Had they not loss those three games, we probably would of still been a three even with the loss to them.

Nope.

Quote from: MUeagle1090 on March 01, 2019, 11:06:01 PM
Nah. Because they are losing to teams we beat, giving us better wins.

Yep.

Conference play in a double round robin conference is essentially a circle jerk. Any ground you lose by a conference opponent losing is essentially made up for because the other conference opponent won.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


SaveOD238

I updated my NCAA locations chart again.  This week's results pushed is to a 4 seed in Bracket Matrix, which would send us to Hartford.  Purdue, Michigan, and Kansas are the three we want to root against if we want Des Moines (which I know many of you don't care about).

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1roateBVil2mn1EhYLccIh0bl2PGDFuP3LuCmuCjDCsk/edit?usp=drivesdk

MUfanatic45

Ok State collapsing down the stretch vs Kansas. Would be major help.


That's also why they are 10-18

Boston Warrior

Good to see Indiana win against mich  state
Tennessee loses? Marquette win puts them in better position

MUfanatic45

Ok State still with a shot here.

Let's see if they can draw one up.

MUfanatic45

Jeez couldn't even get a shot off

MUfanatic45

LSU looking likely to win too.

Not the results we wanted

denverMU

So...MU loses to #27 Villanova and MSU loses to unranked Indiana.  Who drops the most?  I bet we do.  Big 10 bias!

wadesworld

Why do people think Marquette has been slighted?

Ranked 10th. Seems exactly right to me. 3 seed in the bracket reveal. Seemed exactly right to me.

denverMU

Yes, 10 is right.  I'm talking about our ranking on monday

muguru

Quote from: denverMU on March 02, 2019, 01:19:23 PM
So...MU loses to #27 Villanova and MSU loses to unranked Indiana.  Who drops the most?  I bet we do.  Big 10 bias!

And somehow, I bet that loss won't move MSU a seed line...at all. Big ten teams can lose and not move..it's amazing
"Being realistic is the most common path to mediocrity." Will Smith

We live in a society that rewards mediocrity , I detest mediocrity - David Goggi

I want this quote to serve as a reminder to the vast majority of scoop posters in regards to the MU BB program.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: muguru on March 02, 2019, 02:22:26 PM
And somehow, I bet that loss won't move MSU a seed line...at all. Big ten teams can lose and not move..it's amazing

They also just beat a top 10 Michigan team on the road. You gotta stop looking at single results
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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fjm

Quote from: muguru on March 02, 2019, 02:22:26 PM
And somehow, I bet that loss won't move MSU a seed line...at all. Big ten teams can lose and not move..it's amazing

You're ridiculous.

denverMU

I'm not just looking at single game results.  Both teams are rated what we are based on all our games to this point.  Then we both play a game and you revaluation.  We lost to a ranked team on the road and they lost to an unranked team on the road.  My question was who falls the most spots?  I think we will and we shouldn't.  I think MSU, because of Izzo and previous seasons, gets the benefit of the doubt and we don't.

MUfanatic45

Quote from: denverMU on March 02, 2019, 03:05:33 PM
I'm not just looking at single game results.  Both teams are rated what we are based on all our games to this point.  Then we both play a game and you revaluation.  We lost to a ranked team on the road and they lost to an unranked team on the road.  My question was who falls the most spots?  I think we will and we shouldn't.  I think MSU, because of Izzo and previous seasons, gets the benefit of the doubt and we don't.

Let's win tomorrow first

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