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Quote from: brewcity77 on February 01, 2019, 04:16:38 PM
Two thoughts...

Murray State as First Four Out is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard. They have absolutely no shot at the bubble. None. Auto-bid or bust.


Ja Morant factor I guess. But agreed



geps


SaveOD238

When Marquette and Virginia Tech end up on the 2 and 3 lines, someone in that room will point out the Buzz Williams connection and put us in the same bracket, dont'cha think?

Bocephys

Quote from: SaveOD238 on February 04, 2019, 08:16:44 AM
When Marquette and Virginia Tech end up on the 2 and 3 lines, someone in that room will point out the Buzz Williams connection and put us in the same bracket, dont'cha think?

People said that for the entire Tom Crean tenure at Indiana and it only seemed to cause boners for every bracketologist.  The committee doesn't care.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Bocephys on February 04, 2019, 08:25:34 AM
People said that for the entire Tom Crean tenure at Indiana and it only seemed to cause boners for every bracketologist.  The committee doesn't care.

to be fair, if Indiana didn't choke against Cuse we could've played them in the Elite 8, although then again we did the same.
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Bocephys

Quote from: Galway Eagle on February 04, 2019, 08:30:40 AM
to be fair, if Indiana didn't choke against Cuse we could've played them in the Elite 8, although then again we did the same.

Crean never met a zone he couldn't crap his pants against.

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Quote from: Galway Eagle on February 04, 2019, 08:30:40 AM
to be fair, if Indiana didn't choke against Cuse we could've played them in the Elite 8, although then again we did the same.

Indiana would've been a much better matchup for that Marquette team.  Syracuse was ready for the jumbo lineup the 2nd time around.   I think MU goes to the Final 4 if they get Indiana instead.

MU82

Quote from: Lazar's Headband on February 04, 2019, 08:44:19 AM
Indiana would've been a much better matchup for that Marquette team.  Syracuse was ready for the jumbo lineup the 2nd time around.   I think MU goes to the Final 4 if they get Indiana instead.

Given that Syracuse just scored another couple of baskets against Indiana, it's a moot point because the Orange crushed 'em.
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 On Saturday (12:30 p.m. ET on CBS), the men's basketball committee will release its top 16 teams (through Friday's games) on the 3rd annual Bracket Preview Show.

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Quote from: SaveOD238 on February 04, 2019, 08:16:44 AM
When Marquette and Virginia Tech end up on the 2 and 3 lines, someone in that room will point out the Buzz Williams connection and put us in the same bracket, dont'cha think?

they're in a battle on their home floor, down by 12 at 6:30 mark to louisville
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geps

Lunardi's bracket down to 3 Big East teams and St. John's last 4 in. Yikes.

HowardsWorld

Quote from: geps on February 05, 2019, 07:09:33 AM
Lunardi's bracket down to 3 Big East teams and St. John's last 4 in. Yikes.

This is not really that surprising at least to me. I called this nearly 3 weeks ago. I believe barring a team not named Marquette or Nova winning the BET that Seton Hall and St. Johns are the only two teams remaining that have a chance. With the only shot being if either one upset Marquette or Nova from this point forward.. There just are too many bad teams in the conference this year to pick up quality wins. Seton Hall and St. Johns both have 2 shots remaining. Every loss for those teams at this point is a bad loss.

Its DJOver

Quote from: HowardsWorld on February 05, 2019, 07:20:09 AM
This is not really that surprising at least to me. I called this nearly 3 weeks ago. I believe barring a team not named Marquette or Nova winning the BET that Seton Hall and St. Johns are the only two teams remaining that have a chance. With the only shot being if either one upset Marquette or Nova from this point forward.. There just are too many bad teams in the conference this year to pick up quality wins. Seton Hall and St. Johns both have 2 shots remaining. Every loss for those teams at this point is a bad loss.

Slow your roll there and actually look at his bracket.  He only has three teams right now, but literally his first three out are all Beast teams, so while only getting 3 bids is a possibility, getting 6 is also still a possibility.  There's still plenty of time for teams to play themselves in or out of the field.
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Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

Galway Eagle

At this point every team in the Big east reminds me of us the past three years. Competitive and objectively above average yet not good enough to deserve consideration for the tournament.
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jsglow

Conference is half over.  2-3 teams are going to have solid February/March runs and make the dance joining MU and Nova.

MU82

Quote from: Galway Eagle on February 05, 2019, 07:57:26 AM
At this point every team in the Big east reminds me of us the past three years. Competitive and objectively above average yet not good enough to deserve consideration for the tournament.

Well, we obviously were "good enough to deserve consideration" in 2017, since we made the field with plenty of room to spare. We also were good enough to be considered last season, but sadly not good enough to make it.
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Quote from: MU82 on February 05, 2019, 08:32:14 AM
Well, we obviously were "good enough to deserve consideration" in 2017, since we made the field with plenty of room to spare. We also were good enough to be considered last season, but sadly not good enough to make it.

we lose to nova and we're not in. I was including them because it's a similar comparison for all the BE teams desperate for a win vs us or Nova this year to get considered
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MU82

Quote from: Galway Eagle on February 05, 2019, 08:43:04 AM
we lose to nova and we're not in. I was including them because it's a similar comparison for all the BE teams desperate for a win vs us or Nova this year to get considered

Do we know for certain that a loss to Nova eliminates us in 2017? Maybe. I'm not saying you're wrong ... but you sure seem certain about it.

If you are on the first-4-out line, as 3 BEast teams, you are "good enough to deserve consideration." But yeah, I do agree that 2-3 (maybe 4) of these teams need a win or two against us or Nova to have a realistic at deserving an actual bid.
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Quote from: MU82 on February 05, 2019, 08:49:46 AM
Do we know for certain that a loss to Nova eliminates us in 2017? Maybe. I'm not saying you're wrong ... but you sure seem certain about it.

If you are on the first-4-out line, as 3 BEast teams, you are "good enough to deserve consideration." But yeah, I do agree that 2-3 (maybe 4) of these teams need a win or two against us or Nova to have a realistic at deserving an actual bid.

We were the last four byes so that puts us near enough I'm comfortable saying that it was a nova win or bust
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Its DJOver

Quote from: MU82 on February 05, 2019, 08:49:46 AM
Do we know for certain that a loss to Nova eliminates us in 2017? Maybe. I'm not saying you're wrong ... but you sure seem certain about it.

If you are on the first-4-out line, as 3 BEast teams, you are "good enough to deserve consideration." But yeah, I do agree that 2-3 (maybe 4) of these teams need a win or two against us or Nova to have a realistic at deserving an actual bid.

I don't even think that it would require a MU/Nova win. 9-9 should be enough for SH, and they have 3 of the next 4 at home, and have already played their two toughest conference games, I could see them getting in without a MU/Nova win.  CU plays 4 of their last 6 at home with the only road games being at us and at DePaul, they could easily go 5-1 in that stretch.

Also, Joe's bracketology has a few question marks.  The Big 12 getting 80% of their conference in?  Unlikely, some teams won't make the cut for many of the same reasons that Beast teams won't.  Pac 12 a multi-bid league?  No.  Bowling Green is ahead of Buffalo in the MAC standings, so right now he has it as a multi-bid league.  Bowling Green's only chance is the conference tourney.  Sure there will be bid stealers, but as many have said, they have to take 68 teams.
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Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

MU82

Quote from: Galway Eagle on February 05, 2019, 09:02:36 AM
We were the last four byes so that puts us near enough I'm comfortable saying that it was a nova win or bust

Perhaps. Thanks for the response.

Quote from: Its DJOver on February 05, 2019, 09:03:48 AM
I don't even think that it would require a MU/Nova win. 9-9 should be enough for SH, and they have 3 of the next 4 at home, and have already played their two toughest conference games, I could see them getting in without a MU/Nova win.  CU plays 4 of their last 6 at home with the only road games being at us and at DePaul, they could easily go 5-1 in that stretch.

Also, Joe's bracketology has a few question marks.  The Big 12 getting 80% of their conference in?  Unlikely, some teams won't make the cut for many of the same reasons that Beast teams won't.  Pac 12 a multi-bid league?  No.  Bowling Green is ahead of Buffalo in the MAC standings, so right now he has it as a multi-bid league.  Bowling Green's only chance is the conference tourney.  Sure there will be bid stealers, but as many have said, they have to take 68 teams.

SH has some nice wins, so you might be right about 5-1 getting them in.

BEast can't afford too many bid-stealers, that's for sure. Then again, it's not out of the realm of possibility that a Seton Hall or St. John's (or even GTown?) could get hot for a few days and steal the BEast auto-bid.
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Quote from: geps on February 05, 2019, 07:09:33 AM
Lunardi's bracket down to 3 Big East teams and St. John's last 4 in. Yikes.

He also has Creighton, Butler and Seton Hall as his first 3 teams out.  Still think the BE ends up with 4, maybe 5 in the dance.  Gtown can't be too far behind those guys. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: HowardsWorld on February 05, 2019, 07:20:09 AM
This is not really that surprising at least to me. I called this nearly 3 weeks ago. I believe barring a team not named Marquette or Nova winning the BET that Seton Hall and St. Johns are the only two teams remaining that have a chance. With the only shot being if either one upset Marquette or Nova from this point forward.. There just are too many bad teams in the conference this year to pick up quality wins. Seton Hall and St. Johns both have 2 shots remaining. Every loss for those teams at this point is a bad loss.

I disagree very strongly.  And there really aren't any BAD teams in the conference at all.  There are 2 great teams.  And then 6 good to solid teams, and 2 decent to mediocre teams.  None of them are bad. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

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