UTEP thoughts

[fjm]

Rewatched some of the UTEP game. I saw 4 UW game offensive fouls on Markus without trying too hard. (This is assuming Dayvesun gets his flop calls).

It is a must that he keeps that arm in.

[Nukem2]

Rewatched some of the UTEP game. I saw 4 UW game offensive fouls on Markus without trying too hard. (This is assuming Dayvesun gets his flop calls).

It is a must that he keeps that arm in.

Very true.

[skianth16]

Rewatched some of the UTEP game. I saw 4 UW game offensive fouls on Markus without trying too hard. (This is assuming Dayvesun gets his flop calls).

It is a must that he keeps that arm in.

I saw a few during the game too and was thinking about how it could play out Saturday. Hopefully this is a point of emphasis this week in practice for Markus. Last night, a few times I saw him do it, he didn't really even need to. If he can break the habit to avoid charges this week, it could benefit him the rest of the year as well.

[tower912]

Theo's spin move from the foul line is the best move he has made at MU.   

[79Warrior]

Am I the only one that thinks tooney is the most freshman looking grad transfer ever?  He looks clueless with the ball.  Has made lots of top of the key turnovers and his scoring ability / shot is very questionable. 

I am failing to see the talent here at all.  Very disappointed.

Ill take the W but this weekend is gonna make or break the season.

So if we lose Saturday should we cancel conference play?

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Am I the only one that thinks tooney is the most freshman looking grad transfer ever?  He looks clueless with the ball.  Has made lots of top of the key turnovers and his scoring ability / shot is very questionable. 

I am failing to see the talent here at all.  Very disappointed.

Ill take the W but this weekend is gonna make or break the season.

I'd recommend another 5.5 year hiatus

[WarriorFan]

Watched a replay this morning and was quite impressed with Joey.  His composure while being quite aggressive both on offense and defense makes him pretty special. 
Next game, the ball needs to go to Sam on the first play so he can see it go in.  Then he'll be fine. 
I do like establishing the low post early, but ball (and unfortunately people) movement is stopping when that happens.  First 2-3 possessions need to have easy buckets or open 3's off of good ball movement.  Then establish the post. 
Lots of sloppy turnovers.  Can't do this against bucky.

[Daniel]

Theo's spin move from the foul line is the best move he has made at MU.

Agreed.  I said the same thing to friends sitt8ng next to me at the game.  Best more so far fo Theo.   More to come

[Cheeks]

What is this, a football game? Vanilla offense? We ran the same offense we always run - I don't expect any "trick plays" (flea flicker, fumbleruski, fake punts, end arounds, etc.) on Saturday. LOL, where do you get this stuff?

I said it feels like it, I didn't say that is what we were doing.  Sheesh.  Read.

Yes, like we were going through the motions with limited playbook. 

[muwarrior69]

Yep.  I was saying to Glow last night at the game that he is a Davante wannabe.

He can't hit the short jumper (or should I say, heel-rocker) like Davante, though.

Some how I get the feeling that it was you that got Glow interested in MU basketball.

[jsglow]

Some how I get the feeling that it was you that got Glow interested in MU basketball.

Not true at all.  That honor goes to my father.  Been going to games since the 1960s.  And honestly it was me that suggested we get season tickets when they were doing the $99 special perhaps 12 years ago.  That said, Chick is certainly a more dedicated fan averaging 95% attendance every year.

[warriorchick]

Some how I get the feeling that it was you that got Glow interested in MU basketball.

We didn't meet until I was a senior and he had already graduated. I was already a big fan by then.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Who fin cares?

[GGGG]

Who fin cares?

That's pretty much the motto for your posting history.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

I said it feels like it, I didn't say that is what we were doing.  Sheesh.  Read.

Possibly the most chicos shifting of an argument ever.

[Floorslapper]

What is this, a football game? Vanilla offense? We ran the same offense we always run - I don't expect any "trick plays" (flea flicker, fumbleruski, fake punts, end arounds, etc.) on Saturday. LOL, where do you get this stuff?

Thank you for this.  However, Cheeks isn't the only one to suggest that we've yet to unveil our "real" offense.  Such "insight" is actually quite entertaining to read.

[damuts222]

I have thought Chartouny has turned the ball over quite a bit. Homerun pass attempts, and just unsure on where to go with the ball at times.

The link below shows that Chartouny's TO% is the worst in the Big East, by a large margin.
https://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/stats?season=2018&category=ADVANCED&group=14&sort=16&time=0&pos=0&team=0&qual=1&sortOrder=0&opp=0

However, using the same link, he is top 10 in Assist %. I hope he can settle in, but teams are just going to sag off of him he is unable to put the ball in the basket.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Thank you for this.  However, Cheeks isn't the only one to suggest that we've yet to unveil our "real" offense.  Such "insight" is actually quite entertaining to read.

Really? Who?

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Really? Who?

Must be referring to hoopaloop. 

[Floorslapper]

Really? Who?

I can't recall specifically who but high likelihood members of the Scoop Intelligencia.  Chose to let it slide at the time because no need to call out all of the ill-conceived points thrown out here (usually made in an attempt to prop up the spotty/shaky performance of our team.)

I mean we have a thread here "Some ranked teams didn't escape the upset."

[tower912]

The offense looks normal.   Sacar is getting the same  lay up looks around the double screen at the elbows that JjJ cleaned up on. (And Sacar, when he chose to).   Sam and Joey are getting the same wide open 3 look from the side that has been a staple the last couple of years.   The obligatory passes to the post with Theo and Ed catching the ball on the blocks with the defender a half step late creating an angle to the basket or a jump hook.     The offense looks the same EXCEPT for not hitting 3's at the anticipated %.     Seriously, if MU had gone 9-22 shooting 3's against UTEP instead of 6-22, no one would even mention the offense.   


It looked off because reliable shooters missed wide open looks badly.   

[GGGG]

I can't recall specifically who but high likelihood members of the Scoop Intelligencia.  Chose to let it slide at the time because no need to call out all of the ill-conceived points thrown out here (usually made in an attempt to prop up the spotty/shaky performance of our team.)

What are you talking about?  Seriously find one post that has seriously suggested that the "real offense" hasn't been installed.

It's essentially the same offense MU has been running for years. And as tower said, many of the same looks without the same shots falling.

[JakeBarnes]

The offense looks normal.   Sacar is getting the same  lay up looks around the double screen at the elbows that JjJ cleaned up on. (And Sacar, when he chose to).   Sam and Joey are getting the same wide open 3 look from the side that has been a staple the last couple of years.   The obligatory passes to the post with Theo and Ed catching the ball on the blocks with the defender a half step late creating an angle to the basket or a jump hook.     The offense looks the same EXCEPT for not hitting 3's at the anticipated %.     Seriously, if MU had gone 9-22 shooting 3's against UTEP instead of 6-22, no one would even mention the offense.   


It looked off because reliable shooters missed wide open looks badly.

I agree with this. I guess I singled out Sam primarily, but had he hit 2 more 3s we'd have been ok with the result (at least I would have been). I do think that the past 2 games have been helpful in showing that when some things aren't working, they find a way to get stops and scrap.

[Floorslapper]

What are you talking about?  Seriously find one post that has seriously suggested that the "real offense" hasn't been installed.

It's essentially the same offense MU has been running for years. And as tower said, many of the same looks without the same shots falling.

Angry this morning Sultan?  Sheesh.  You have better sleuth capabilities here than I do, based on your numerous previous posts re-hashing things I posted as far back as 7 years ago.

The point we haven't rolled out our real offense had been alluded to early this season - guessing probably after the struggles with Presby, IU, etc.

I agree entirely with Tower's post below.  We haven't held anything back in our offense this season.  To allude so, and say as much, is just dumb.  Perhaps it was Warrior Dad and Billy Hoyle who made those points earlier this year.  (That would make sense.)

[tower912]

I agree entirely with Tower's post below.

Dear diary.....