Some ranked teams didn't dodge the upset

[TallTitan34]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-podcast-jahvon-quinerlys-instagram-got-interesting-after-villanovas-latest-loss/

Summary: Picks MU to win Big East. Doesn't think a single Big East team makes it to the Sweet Sixteen.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Summary: Picks MU to win Big East. Doesn't think a single Big East team makes it to the Sweet Sixteen.

At this point in the season, I don't think that is a bad prediction at all.  He is basically going chalk at this point if you look at currently projected seeds.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

Tommy Naismith absolutely shats himself...again.

[brewcity77]

Summary: Picks MU to win Big East. Doesn't think a single Big East team makes it to the Sweet Sixteen.

I feel like Villanova will be a reverse Villanova this year. Instead of getting in as a 1/2 and losing the opening weekend, they look like the kind of team that will get in as a 7/8/9/10 and shock a 1/2 in the second round. If I were a team like Nevada, I would be deathly afraid of Villanova on the opening weekend.

[WarriorDad]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-podcast-jahvon-quinerlys-instagram-got-interesting-after-villanovas-latest-loss/

The guy says add an 11th team to create a true round robin.  Aren't we playing a true round robin right now? 

[Lennys Tap]

I feel like Villanova will be a reverse Villanova this year. Instead of getting in as a 1/2 and losing the opening weekend, they look like the kind of team that will get in as a 7/8/9/10 and shock a 1/2 in the second round.

A "reverse Villanova" is winning 2 in the opening weekend? Haven't they won two national championships in the last three years?

But yeah, I agree that by the end of the year they could be a dangerous 7-10 seed.

[🏀]

I feel like Villanova will be a reverse Villanova this year. Instead of getting in as a 1/2 and losing the opening weekend, they look like the kind of team that will get in as a 7/8/9/10 and shock a 1/2 in the second round. If I were a team like Nevada, I would be deathly afraid of Villanova on the opening weekend.

Villanova is still figuring it out, I wouldn't count them out of a decent BE finish yet.

[brewcity77]

A "reverse Villanova" is winning 2 in the opening weekend? Haven't they won two national championships in the last three years?

But yeah, I agree that by the end of the year they could be a dangerous 7-10 seed.

They have, but Jay Wright has a weird tendency to either flame out the first weekend or go to the Final Four. Since 2009, Villanova has either lost the first weekend or went to the Final Four. They are a perfect 6-0 in the Sweet 16 & Elite 8.

[tower912]

SJU up 2 at halftime at home against Wagner.  Pulling  away in the second half.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

#18 Arizona State pounded on the road by a Vanderbilt team ranked outside the top 50 by KenPom.

#11 Florida State tied at halftime with #274 Southeast Missouri State before a big second half.

[Bocephys]

It's going to be depressing when the usual suspects race to put the first Marquette loss in this thread.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

It's going to be depressing when the usual suspects race to put the first Marquette loss in this thread.

It may be me who puts them here. The point of this thread isn't to say Marquette is awesome, its just to point out that all teams struggle in games that they shouldn't. As long as they are isolated incidents and not the norm, it doesn't mean that the team isn't good. It's just the nature of college basketball.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

It may be me who puts them here. The point of this thread isn't to say Marquette is awesome, its just to point out that all teams struggle in games that they shouldn't. As long as they are isolated incidents and not the norm, it doesn't mean that the team isn't good. It's just the nature of college basketball sports.

[brewcity77]

So is it an upset if #14 Buffalo loses to unranked Syracuse tonight as a -3.5 road dog?

[IrwinFletcher]

So is it an upset if #14 Buffalo loses to unranked Syracuse tonight as a -3.5 road dog?

Or, if Buffalo wins, will Jon Rothstein tweet:

"Syracuse loses buy game to Buffalo. The epitome of brutality"

[tower912]

It may be me who puts them here. The point of this thread isn't to say Marquette is awesome, its just to point out that all teams struggle in games that they shouldn't. As long as they are isolated incidents and not the norm, it doesn't mean that the team isn't good. It's just the nature of college basketball.

Correct.   I started it as an attempt to provide perspective.    That most teams occasionally struggle in games they should win easily.   That buy games can go wrong.    In their early season frustration, many were acting as if MU was the only team this happened to and it was further proof of Wojo's inadequacies.     I was trying to paint a broader picture. 

[Mr. Nielsen]

So is it an upset if #14 Buffalo loses to unranked Syracuse tonight as a -3.5 road dog?

I say no. I go by the point spread.

[brewcity77]

I say no. I go by the point spread.

#14 Buffa11-0 upsets unranked Syracuse.

[MU82]

Correct.   I started it as an attempt to provide perspective.    That most teams occasionally struggle in games they should win easily.   That buy games can go wrong.    In their early season frustration, many were acting as if MU was the only team this happened to and it was further proof of Wojo's inadequacies.     I was trying to paint a broader picture.

It's a good thread, and I thank you for starting it.

It's not about making excuses. It's just about showing that this kind of shyte happens to just about every team.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

#15 Ohio State losing at halftime to KenPom #321 Youngstown State....bleh. Massive second half gives them a comfortable margin of victory.

Baylor loses at home to #172 Stephen F Austin

#192 App State was within 3 points on the road with only 2 minutes left against Georgetown

Providence only up 3 on #275 Albany at half before big second half

Butler down at half to #247 Presbyterian and the game was with 4 at the second to last media timeout

USC currently in double OT against #245 Santa Clara

Stanford escapes #327 San Jose State at home with a 5 point victory

Oregon manages a 7 point victory against #335 Florida A&M

#182 Mercer was within 5 with less than a minute left at Florida

[MU82]

#15 Ohio State losing at halftime to KenPom #321 Youngstown State....bleh. Massive second half gives them a comfortable margin of victory.

Baylor loses at home to #172 Stephen F Austin

#192 App State was within 3 points on the road with only 2 minutes left against Georgetown

Providence only up 3 on #275 Albany at half before big second half

Butler down at half to #247 Presbyterian and the game was with 4 at the second to last media timeout

USC currently in double OT against #245 Santa Clara

Stanford escapes #327 San Jose State at home with a 5 point victory

Oregon manages a 7 point victory against #335 Florida A&M

#182 Mercer was within 5 with less than a minute left at Florida

Sounds like 9 reasons to fire Wojo!

[VegasWarrior77]

Mark Zeigler
‏@sdutzeigler
7h7 hours ago

This has got to be rock bottom for Pac-12 basketball, right? On the same night that Stanford trails by 9 at home vs San Jose State, USC loses 102-92 in overtime at Santa Clara.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Mark Zeigler
‏@sdutzeigler
7h7 hours ago

This has got to be rock bottom for Pac-12 basketball, right? On the same night that Stanford trails by 9 at home vs San Jose State, USC loses 102-92 in overtime at Santa Clara.

That doesn't even include Oregons woeful performance against Florida A&M. That conference is embarrassingly bad

[79Warrior]

That doesn't even include Oregons woeful performance against Florida A&M. That conference is embarrassingly bad

Yep, and in football it might be worse. Terrible year for PAC 12.

[TinyTimsLittleBrother]

Yep, and in football it might be worse. Terrible year for PAC 12.

Don't know how Larry Scott is still employed.