NFL 2018-19 2.0

[Cheeks]

Oakland A’s starting to panic on Murray?  Execs meeting with him today to persuade him to stay in baseball after multiple NFL teams indicate he is a first rounder for them.  Nice to have options.

[DegenerateDish]

Through 3 Divisional games, the team coming off a bye has clobbered their opponents. Interesting too all 3 were high rated offenses versus teams with high rated defenses.

Saints are -6 first half.

Conversely, team that has scored first is 7-0 this postseason. Eagles up 7-0.

[Jockey]

How many teams are lucky enough to have a backup QB who is better than the starter?

I probably just jinxed both Foles and the Eagles.

[DegenerateDish]

How many teams are lucky enough to have a backup QB who is better than the starter?

I probably just jinxed both Foles and the Eagles.

It’s amazing how much better they are with Foles. Wentz may not have been 100% this year, but everything about them was marginal this year when Wentz was in. Maybe they just had a SB hangover most of the year, but they look so much better than they did 2 months ago.

[Pakuni]

How many teams are lucky enough to have a backup QB who is better than the starter?

I probably just jinxed both Foles and the Eagles.

Well, not the Eagles. Foles has some magic dust working for him, for sure, but he's not a better quarterback than Wentz.

[Jockey]

Well, not the Eagles. Foles has some magic dust working for him, for sure, but he's not a better quarterback than Wentz.

Yeah....... most teams win more games with a worse QB.

If you wanna say Wentz’ ceiling is higher, then we can agree.

[jesmu84]

He was our def cord for awhile.....not a good showing for us but maybe he works for Bears.

He'd be a defensive position coach

[Pakuni]

Yeah....... most teams win more games with a worse QB.

Wins and losses as the exclusive measure is dumb.

[BM1090]

Wins and losses as the exclusive measure is dumb.

Yeah. Without looking, I'd guess the defense has performed much better since Foles took over.

[Jockey]

Wins and losses as the exclusive measure is dumb.

If wins don’t matter  use a stat like QBR.

[DegenerateDish]

So dumb not taking the holding penalty. Of course Payton is going to go for it on 4th and short.

[Pakuni]

If wins don’t matter  use a stat like QBR.

No one said that.
No one disputes the Eagles have played better this year under Foles. (Curiously, people seem to forget the Eagles were 11-2 under Wentz last year).
But that doesn't make Foles a better QB than Wentz. It means the team seems to step it up more when Foles in in the game, likely because they know to have to with a lesser QB in the game.

[jesmu84]

https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/1084584534610493449?s=19

MLB getting involved with Murray.

Multiple NFL teams have told Murray he's a first round pick for them. That means, if MLB wants him, more money has to come

[Cheeks]

https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/1084584534610493449?s=19

MLB getting involved with Murray.

Multiple NFL teams have told Murray he's a first round pick for them. That means, if MLB wants him, more money has to come

Yup, posted that earlier today.  Panic time.  Also means nfl teams think he is 1st round quality

[Pakuni]

Yup, posted that earlier today.  Panic time.  Also means nfl teams think he is 1st round quality

Nobody's panicking. It's a negotiation. Murray's trying to get the best deal he can.
For which I say, bully for him.

[nyg]

An analyst on NFL network said that if Murray goes to the NFL combine, he may be found to be 5 ft 8 inches.  That’s really short for NFL, but the kid has a rocket arm and is lightning quick.  Another analyst debating stated he would only draft him as a WR/ slot guy, aka Hines Ward. 

Believe Russel Wilson is 5ft 11, And Doug Flutie was listed as 5ft 10. 

Franchise QB?, don’t think so, but some team will take a shot. 

[jesmu84]

Nobody's panicking. It's a negotiation. Murray's trying to get the best deal he can.
For which I say, bully for him.

Maybe I just don't know enough, but isn't it a big deal that MLB execs are going with A's execs?

Edit: I would say. Considering they're going to change their rules/laws for him: https://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu/kyler-murray-demands-15-million-from-the-oakland-as-or-else-hes-entering-the-nfl-draft-tomorrow

[Jockey]

No one said that.
No one disputes the Eagles have played better this year under Foles. (Curiously, people seem to forget the Eagles were 11-2 under Wentz last year).
But that doesn't make Foles a better QB than Wentz. It means the team seems to step it up more when Foles in in the game, likely because they know to have to with a lesser QB in the game.

So..... guys don’t play as hard when Wentz is in the game?

Got it.

[DegenerateDish]

Usually I don’t like seeing rematches in conference title games, but this year we get two great rematches.

[GB Warrior]

Maybe I just don't know enough, but isn't it a big deal that MLB execs are going with A's execs?

Edit: I would say. Considering they're going to change their rules/laws for him: https://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu/kyler-murray-demands-15-million-from-the-oakland-as-or-else-hes-entering-the-nfl-draft-tomorrow

This would be a terrible idea, IMO.

a) because while he has a very high ceiling, he also hAs a very low floor due to inexperience.

b) this would be exhibit A in the CBA negotiations, with Exhibit B being Ohtani

[MU B2002]

So..... guys don’t play as hard when Wentz is in the game?

Got it.

The only explanation for the Foles / Wentz situation that i heard that made sense revolved around mobility.  Generally speaking the OL knows that Foles will be playing from the pocket, so it makes it easier to block.  Whereas Wentz is likely to be on the move more, and that makes it harder to keep him clean.


But I have no clue.

[Pakuni]

So..... guys don’t play as hard when Wentz is in the game?

Got it.

Yes, that's what I said.

[Lennys Tap]

So..... guys don’t play as hard when Wentz is in the game?

Got it.

If only Foles had been out too and the 3rd stringer would have played! Team would have tried even harder and the Eagles would be playing next week!

[jutaw22mu]

So..... guys don’t play as hard when Wentz is in the game?

Got it.

Haha yeah, that seems like an odd thing for him to say.  I think Foles is a better QB than Wentz.  Book is out on him, which contributed to their issues this year.

[DegenerateDish]

I’m not saying I support it, but I can envision the Bears signing Hunt, if he is still unsigned come March.

Ultimately I think he’ll get a second chance, teams will view him as cheap/impactful talent, he will need to show reconciliation. I think a team like the Eagles, Bears, a team that’s contending, in a big enough media market with other distractions around will be where he ends up.

Re-posting this because the Bears today left the door wide open to an eventual contract with Hunt. If I had to peg a timeframe, I would say during the draft or right after the draft, a two year deal with little guaranteed money, something along those lines. I think they'd aim for that timeframe so Hunt can show them contrition, and it would allow the news of his signing to get buried nationally in the news surrounding the draft (somewhat at least). Of course if more Hunt stuff comes out or he gets into more trouble, everything would be off the table.