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The Lens

The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

tower912

I think most Scoopers have recognized that as a strong possibility since the beginning of the Wojo era. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

DCHoopster

Quote from: tower912 on September 12, 2018, 12:54:22 PM
I think most Scoopers have recognized that as a strong possibility since the beginning of the Wojo era.

He might be a hot name in 2 years, hope I am right. 

warriorjoe

After Duke wins Coach K's sixth national title in April, the Duke AD will ask Coach K for a recommendation. He will try not to play favorites with any of his former players and/or assistants. However, I don't see the job going to someone from the Coach K coaching tree, but someone like Brad Stevens of the Celtics.

Go Warriors!

79Warrior

Quote from: warriorjoe on September 12, 2018, 01:01:13 PM
After Duke wins Coach K's sixth national title in April, the Duke AD will ask Coach K for a recommendation. He will try not to play favorites with any of his former players and/or assistants. However, I don't see the job going to someone from the Coach K coaching tree, but someone like Brad Stevens of the Celtics.

Go Warriors!

Those shoes will be awfully big to fill. While the allure of Duke is compelling, following a true legend is extremely challenging. Maybe the correct path is let the successor fail then step in to "save the program".

GGGG

Quote from: warriorjoe on September 12, 2018, 01:01:13 PM
After Duke wins Coach K's sixth national title in April, the Duke AD will ask Coach K for a recommendation. He will try not to play favorites with any of his former players and/or assistants. However, I don't see the job going to someone from the Coach K coaching tree, but someone like Brad Stevens of the Celtics.

Go Warriors!


I have no idea why people keep bringing up Brad Stevens. 

a. He has a job.
2. He's been quite successful at that job.
c. He didn't like recruiting while at Butler
4. He has no connections to Duke.

brewcity77

Quote from: #bansultan on September 12, 2018, 01:32:56 PM

I have no idea why people keep bringing up Brad Stevens. 

a. He has a job.
2. He's been quite successful at that job.
c. He didn't like recruiting while at Butler
4. He has no connections to Duke.

Brad Stevens is one of the most secure coaches in the NBA. He's not trading that in. The only reason people ever mention him is because he's clean cut and white.

Nukem2

Quote from: 79Warrior on September 12, 2018, 01:18:17 PM
Those shoes will be awfully big to fill. While the allure of Duke is compelling, following a true legend is extremely challenging. Maybe the correct path is let the successor fail then step in to "save the program".
Following a legend is hard.  See Hank Raymonds.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: #bansultan on September 12, 2018, 01:32:56 PM

I have no idea why people keep bringing up Brad Stevens. 

a. He has a job.
2. He's been quite successful at that job.
c. He didn't like recruiting while at Butler
4. He has no connections to Duke.

5. He's holding out for the Wisconsin job if for some crazy reason Popovich doesn't take it.

muwarrior69

Coach K couldn't close the deal with Nico at Duke, what make anyone think Wojo could close deal at Duke.


MU82

Quote from: WhiteTrash on September 12, 2018, 01:51:02 PM
5. He's holding out for the Wisconsin job if for some crazy reason Popovich doesn't take it.

This, for sure.

Stevens will not leave the Celtics for a college job. And yes, that was intentionally framed as a factual statement, not an opinion.

(OK, it's really only an opinion, but it's a strong freakin' opinion.)

If Wojo and his Boyz take care of bizness these next two years, and that's also when K hangs it up, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Wojo leave for Duke. I'd rather it not happen, but it would be 100% understandable, and I would wish him well.

If Wojo and his Boyz underperform these next two years, Wojo would be a harder sell at Duke (or anywhere else), and he probably should be on the hot seat at MU.

If Wojo and his Boyz succeed and he wants to stay because he realizes MU is a hell of a place to run a program, that wouldn't stun me, either.

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Babybluejeans

Let's say Wojo has a great two years here (Sweet Sixteen or beyond) and then is offered Duke. It comes down to a pretty simple threshold question: does he truly believe he can win multiple national championships at Marquette?

If not --> hegowne.

If so --> a coin flip between staying or going.

brewcity77

Quote from: Babybluejeans on September 12, 2018, 04:01:32 PM
Let's say Wojo has a great two years here (Sweet Sixteen or beyond) and then is offered Duke. It comes down to a pretty simple threshold question: does he truly believe he can win multiple national championships at Marquette?

If not --> hegowne.

If so --> a coin flip between staying or going.

What if he won a national title in 2020? Do we think winning it all would make it more or less likely he would stay? It would certainly increase the pressure Duke would apply, but would also give him more of a tangible connection to this program.

MUBigDance


brewcity77

Quote from: MUBigDance on September 12, 2018, 04:09:02 PM
Then he runs for President.

I'd vote for him over Lovell.

Oh...not that president. That said, I think on paper, 2020 looks like our best shot at a national title since 2014 (before Vander left & we experienced a collective throwing up on our shoes season).

texaswarrior74

Quote from: warriorjoe on September 12, 2018, 01:01:13 PM
After Duke wins Coach K's sixth national title in April, the Duke AD will ask Coach K for a recommendation. He will try not to play favorites with any of his former players and/or assistants. However, I don't see the job going to someone from the Coach K coaching tree, but someone like Brad Stevens of the Celtics.

Go Warriors!

I'd take that bet. K has done less with more the last few years than any coach in America and since Capel$ left the staff his recruiting of top ten talent has also fallen off.

They will go outside the coaching tree because K has far too much power and the administration wants to change that culture. And I agree, no former assistant wants to fill those shoes....

mu03eng

If Wojo is the #1 Duke pick, that's a good thing because it means he earned it by doing great things here. Wojo will have reasons to stay and reasons to go so I'm not gonna sweat it and enjoy the ride that comes with Wojo building his Duke resume by getting to the FF this year and a NC next year  ;D
"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

brewcity77

Quote from: brewcity77 on September 12, 2018, 04:13:14 PMI think on paper, 2020 looks like our best shot at a national title since 2014 (before Vander left & we experienced a collective throwing up on our shoes season).

Jeez...looking back at what might have been and what I thought coming into the year...

PG: Vander Blue Future NBA player with a solid defender in Derrick Wilson backing him up.
SG: Todd Mayo Proven player ready to break out with top-35 Jajuan Johnson backing him up.
SF: Jamil Wilson 10/5 high-efficiency guy with a decent Juan Anderson backing him up.
PF: Jamaal McKay JUCO All-American with high efficiency Steve Taylor backing him up.
C: Davante Gardner Proven scorer and two-headed center monster with Chris Otule.

The rest of the bench was supposed to be the freshman trio of Deonte Burton, Duane Wilson, and John Dawson. Man I thought we had a shot at cutting down nets. Instead Bucky went to the first of back-to-back Final Fours and we fell headfirst into the crapper.

Spotcheck Billy

Quote from: texaswarrior74 on September 12, 2018, 04:15:05 PM
I'd take that bet. K has done less with more the last few years than any coach in America and since Capel$ left the staff his recruiting of top ten talent has also fallen off.

They will go outside the coaching tree because K has far too much power and the administration wants to change that culture. And I agree, no former assistant wants to fill those shoes....
This is Capel's 1st year at Pitt after leaving, how did K's recruiting drop already?

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: brewcity77 on September 12, 2018, 04:24:11 PM
Instead Bucky went to the first of back-to-back Final Fours and we fell headfirst into the crapper.

That was the one time Buzz flushed on his own.

brewcity77

Quote from: Waldo Jeffers on September 12, 2018, 04:25:10 PM
This is Capel's 1st year at Pitt after leaving, how did K's recruiting drop already?

Their 2018 class was fantastic, but they haven't landed any 2019 commits and are on the outside looking in of guys like James Wiseman, Armando Bacot, Bryan Antoine, and Nico Mannion. They are Duke, so it's too early to say they won't still end up with a top-2 recruiting class, but I can understand why there's some concern around their 2019 recruiting efforts.

MomofMUltiples

Quote from: Waldo Jeffers on September 12, 2018, 04:25:10 PM
This is Capel's 1st year at Pitt after leaving, how did K's recruiting drop already?

He lost Nico, didn't he?
I mean, OK, maybe he's secretly a serial killer who's pulled the wool over our eyes with his good deeds and smooth jumper - Pakuni (on Markus Howard)

texaswarrior74

Also lost Antoine who everyone said was a lock to duke. Lost Bacot (who grew up a duke fan) to UNC.

Additionally several others that they were considered to be strong leaders for have either failed to commit (after almost two years of having an offer) or have added more official visits to what had once been a short list.

The moderators at The Devils Den (Their fan site) are getting very concerned and are now talking about who K can talk into reclassifying to fill the class.

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