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Dodds on Chartouny
« on: August 12, 2018, 08:08:33 PM »
https://247sports.com/college/marquette/Article/PG-Joe-Chartouny-transferred-from-Fordham-to-Marquette-for-2018-19-season-120609053/

Interview and highlight video.   Two things struck me.   He is not blazing quick.    In the video, his team is always losing.   
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Re: Dodds on Chartouny
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2018, 08:23:50 PM »
Not blazing quick but uses ball fakes (both pass and shot) to get his defender off balance very well and takes advantage getting around the defender. Also always reading the court.

Just how he moves, not how he plays, reminds me of Katin.

I think he’s going to be outstanding for us.
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Re: Dodds on Chartouny
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2018, 08:32:23 PM »
https://247sports.com/college/marquette/Article/PG-Joe-Chartouny-transferred-from-Fordham-to-Marquette-for-2018-19-season-120609053/

Interview and highlight video.   Two things struck me.   He is not blazing quick.    In the video, his team is always losing.
I have gone to several Fordham games over the years and seen Chartouny . I think he will contribute the same way Trent Lockett did by being a glue guy and doing whatever is necessary to help the team. Lockett was also a bit slower than the rest of our team when he came in, but his experience allowed him to adapt. Gives us a lot of flexibility with our guards as well. Glad we picked him up.   
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Re: Dodds on Chartouny
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2018, 08:51:01 PM »
Not blazing quick but uses ball fakes (both pass and shot) to get his defender off balance very well and takes advantage getting around the defender. Also always reading the court.

Just how he moves, not how he plays, reminds me of Katin.

I think he’s going to be outstanding for us.

Not blazing quick, but I didn't expect a 6'3" PG from Fordham to be blazing quick. Some of the hilights were vs Davidson and he reminds me of players from that program - sound fundamentally, good form on his shot, uses both hands well, plays good position D and plays the passing lanes well.

I also think he'll be outstanding for us.

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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2018, 08:54:29 PM »
And my guess is that he thoroughly understands the role that he will be asked to play here.  I am not worried about him.

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Re: Dodds on Chartouny
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2018, 09:44:54 PM »
I think Wojo and company have learned from the previous development of Carlino and Kaitin, that will assist Chartouny.
Perhaps they now know better how a high usage grad transfer will work out as the season progresses.

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Re: Dodds on Chartouny
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2018, 10:05:24 PM »
I don't expect him to be a high usage guy for us or at least I hope he isn't. If he is just a facilitator like he describes himself that will be just fine.

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Re: Dodds on Chartouny
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2018, 10:25:18 PM »
We are better with him than we would be without him.

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Re: Dodds on Chartouny
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2018, 11:21:06 PM »
I love the drive and kick ability he brings. With the shooters we have that could make him extremely deadly. And if he can teach it to Markus that would be a bonus!
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Re: Dodds on Chartouny
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2018, 01:14:14 AM »
Not blazing quick but uses ball fakes (both pass and shot) to get his defender off balance very well and takes advantage getting around the defender. Also always reading the court.

Just how he moves, not how he plays, reminds me of Katin.

I think he’s going to be outstanding for us.

Also, having two guards with  hesitation-dribble skills (Markus is an artist at this)  is going to be really big for us.
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Re: Dodds on Chartouny
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2018, 07:53:38 AM »
Defense, ball distribution, overall floor leadership,  JC is just what is needed for a team with a core of talented shooters and versatile big men.   

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Re: Dodds on Chartouny
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2018, 07:59:42 AM »
We are better with him than we would be without him.

If this is true - and I suspect it is - I will be very happy.

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Re: Dodds on Chartouny
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2018, 08:09:59 AM »
I think Wojo and company have learned from the previous development of Carlino and Kaitin, that will assist Chartouny.
Perhaps they now know better how a high usage grad transfer will work out as the season progresses.


I should probably then brace myself for the "JC isn't as good as I thought he was" - type posts when he has a couple off games to start the year.

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Re: Dodds on Chartouny
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2018, 09:14:05 AM »

I should probably then brace myself for the "JC isn't as good as I thought he was" - type posts when he has a couple off games to start the year.

Yep, this will absolutely happen.  I'm expecting a slow start from Chartouny, but he will become an extremely valuable role player as we get into BE play.

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Re: Dodds on Chartouny
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2018, 09:49:26 AM »
For starters he will have to get used to bigger crowds.  There are fewer people in the stands at those home games than at my nephews grade school games. 

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Re: Dodds on Chartouny
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2018, 10:04:36 AM »
Watching the highlights, I love the patience. He's always looking for the open man or the better play. So often he seemed to be committed to a drive or three, then suddenly was whipping the ball to the open man or changing it up and going inside. He looks like exactly what we need.

That said, he'll probably start slow. Lockett, Carlino, and Reinhardt all started slowly before acclimating to the team. It may not be until December or January before we see how effective he can be.
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Re: Dodds on Chartouny
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2018, 10:40:41 AM »
That said, he'll probably start slow. Lockett, Carlino, and Reinhardt all started slowly before acclimating to the team. It may not be until December or January before we see how effective he can be.

I like to think that if this happens, Scoopers, having experienced this before, will be patient and won't lose their shyte.

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Re: Dodds on Chartouny
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2018, 07:56:22 PM »
I think posters here are over excited about Chartouny, which means he has a lot of expectations to live up to. I have never seen him play or watched any of the videos. It concerns me that his team finished last in the Atl 10 last year. Usually there are three really good teams in the Atl 10. After that the league does not compare to the Big East. Of course he could of been a very good player surrounded by bad players. I am likely to be happier with Chartouny than a lot of poster here, because I have lower expectations.

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Re: Dodds on Chartouny
« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2018, 08:28:52 PM »
I think posters here are over excited about Chartouny, which means he has a lot of expectations to live up to. I have never seen him play or watched any of the videos. It concerns me that his team finished last in the Atl 10 last year. Usually there are three really good teams in the Atl 10. After that the league does not compare to the Big East. Of course he could of been a very good player surrounded by bad players. I am likely to be happier with Chartouny than a lot of poster here, because I have lower expectations.
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Yes there will be a slight adjustment for Chartouny, however he is an intelligent player who understands what his role is going to be at MU. My expectations are that he is another Trent Lockett, starting off slow and  then finding his niche by the end of the season and making important contributions when they matter. 
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« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2018, 08:31:17 PM »
My expectations are that he is another Trent Lockett
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Re: Dodds on Chartouny
« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2018, 08:45:24 PM »
So he's going to be like Trent Lockett?

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Re: Dodds on Chartouny
« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2018, 08:59:04 PM »
Trent Lockett who was valuable and efficient enough that he briefly signed an NBA contract and now plays at a very high level in Europe?  I'd be MORE than fine with that level from JC.

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« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2018, 09:04:20 PM »
He is a point guard with size who is a plus defender........that alone should get people excited.

Nobody expects him to be all conference.........we expect him to be a guy who fills an important role on a good team.

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« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2018, 09:22:08 PM »
He is a point guard with size who is a plus defender........that alone should get people excited.

Nobody expects him to be all conference.........we expect him to be a guy who fills an important role on a good team.

Exactly.

I expect 7-10 ppg, 4-6 apg, and 3-5 rpg on average shooting.

And I expect he will be awesome for us.
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« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2018, 09:32:14 PM »
Plus, Chartouny will join Matt as one of two seniors on the roster. Along with juniors Ed, Sacar, Sam and Markus, Marquette will have plenty of experience and leadership to count on this season.

Together, these six players have appeared in 409 career games and logged a total of 9,882 minutes. That's an average of 68 career games played and 24.1 mpg. Such deep experience at virtually every position can be a real difference maker in college basketball.
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