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MuMark

https://twitter.com/dribblehandoff/status/1021790802996015104?s=21

In the last 25 years, only 3 players have posted two seasons of 5+ RPG while shooting over 50% from 2, 40% from 3, and 80% from the line.

Doug McDermott, Alec Peters, & Sam Hauser (@Big_Smooth10)

Hauser's looking to become the first player to do it 3 times.

wadesworld

Quote from: MuMark on July 24, 2018, 09:40:41 PM
https://twitter.com/dribblehandoff/status/1021790802996015104?s=21

In the last 25 years, only 3 players have posted two seasons of 5+ RPG while shooting over 50% from 2, 40% from 3, and 80% from the line.

Doug McDermott, Alec Peters, & Sam Hauser (@Big_Smooth10)

Hauser's looking to become the first player to do it 3 times.

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real chili 83

Too 15 this year. Maybe higher.

JB, what's your opine?


WarriorFan

When the comps are a journeyman who's played for 5 NBA teams already and a wash out who's already gone to Europe for next season I keep higher hopes for Sam. 

Unfortunately I think McDermott is a reasonable comp right now... just looking for Sam to do better than that. 
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rocket surgeon

i remember when jj redick came out of school as a pretty good college ball player.  picked #11 by orlando in the 2006 draft.  he took a few years to develop, probably more than to be expected of a 1st round, top 20 pick.  there was even a point where i recall that he was probably close to being a short footnote.  then during years 4-5-6-7 he kinda exploded back onto the scene, not in a superstar way, but a genuine player.

my point is, for most guys, making the transition from high school-college-nba still requires A LOT of hard work.  sometimes more for some than others. buckets has the ability to become a kyle korver type player sam has the talent and the work ethic to continue to improve and hopefully take it a notch up with each level he attains. 
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wadesworld

Quote from: WarriorFan on July 24, 2018, 11:13:19 PM
When the comps are a journeyman who's played for 5 NBA teams already and a wash out who's already gone to Europe for next season I keep higher hopes for Sam. 

Unfortunately I think McDermott is a reasonable comp right now... just looking for Sam to do better than that.

Unfortunately? Lol. The dude was just one of the greatest college basketball players in the modern era and just signed a $22M contract to continue playing basketball.

What a letdown that would be!

tower912

Sam is a very good college player.  I am not sure his combination of size and speed translates to the NBA.   6'7 small forward who shoots well but doesn't beat people off the dribble.  I will be I interested to see his lateral quickness this year post hip surgery.
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GGGG

I love Sam, but he isn't Doug McDermott.  McD was a three time all American and national player of the year.  Sam hasn't even made Honorable Mention all Big East.

If Sam does anything close to McD in the NBA, it will be way more than I currently am expecting.

warriorchick

Quote from: #bansultan on July 25, 2018, 07:50:11 AM
I love Sam, but he isn't Doug McDermott.  McD was a three time all American and national player of the year.  Sam hasn't even made  was robbed when he didn't make even Honorable Mention all Big East.

If Sam does anything close to McD in the NBA, it will be way more than I currently am expecting.

FIFY
Have some patience, FFS.

DCHoopster

It will be interesting if Sam can play the 3 as MU has 2 4's in Morrow and Joey.  Is he quick enough?  Can he guard 3's?  Will he be healthy enough to improve his
jumping and lateral quickness?  With Bailey and Cain MU has other 3's if he is not.  Lots of depth this year.  Maybe Sam plays as a stretch 4 with Morrow but Morrow
guards the 3's, it will be interesting.

GGGG

I have no worry about Sam guarding smaller, quicker forwards.  He'll be fine.

Floorslapper

Quote from: tower912 on July 25, 2018, 07:32:00 AM
Sam is a very good college player.  I am not sure his combination of size and speed translates to the NBA.   6'7 small forward who shoots well but doesn't beat people off the dribble.  I will be I interested to see his lateral quickness this year post hip surgery.

Agree with all of this...bolded is the real issue as far as NBA limitations/prospects.  Just not sure he'll ever be athletic enough to make it in NBA despite all of his great attributes as a player.

JJ Redick mentioned here in this thread - JJ is much quicker on his feet than Sam.  Not sure I see Sam running off tons of screens as does Redick, and being able to be effective.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: DCHoopster on July 25, 2018, 08:37:11 AM
It will be interesting if Sam can play the 3 as MU has 2 4's in Morrow and Joey.  Is he quick enough?  Can he guard 3's?  Will he be healthy enough to improve his
jumping and lateral quickness?  With Bailey and Cain MU has other 3's if he is not.  Lots of depth this year.  Maybe Sam plays as a stretch 4 with Morrow but Morrow
guards the 3's, it will be interesting.

Sam has and will continue to guard 3s. People really underestimate Sam's defense. He has been one of our top two defenders of the last two years (unfortunately not saying much)
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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Sam doesn't need to beat people of the dribble to make the NBA.  Can he defend well enough to be a 3 & D guy?

Recovering from hip surgery will be key.  Need to see what kind of lateral quickness and agility Sam has when he's healthy.

Sam also needs to quicken his release.  It's fine for college but guys like Kyle Korver and Klay Thompson have lightning quick releases. But Novak was able to do it as he put in the reps.  Sam could do the same.

Loose Cannon

Quote from: Lazar's Headband on July 25, 2018, 09:46:59 AM


Sam also needs to quicken his release.  It's fine for college but guys like Kyle Korver and Klay Thompson have lightning quick releases. But Novak was able to do it as he put in the reps.  Sam could do the same.

Good point.  Yes, I'll be focused on this as the season progresses.
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GGGG

Novak at 6'11" isn't really a good comp.  But yeah he was able to quicken the release.

brewcity77

Quote from: #bansultan on July 25, 2018, 07:50:11 AM
I love Sam, but he isn't Doug McDermott.  McD was a three time all American and national player of the year.  Sam hasn't even made Honorable Mention all Big East.

I wonder what Sam's numbers would look like if he was the focal point of a mid-major offense like McDermott was. Sam was more efficient each of his first two years. eFG% were similar (slight edge to Sam as a freshman, & McDermott as a sophomore). McDermott was a slightly better rebounder, Sam has a better assist & turnover rates.

The biggest difference was usage. But if Sam isn't deferring to guys like JJ, Reinhardt, Luke, Rowsey, & Howard what would those numbers look like?

If Sam was on a team in the A-10, MVC, or Mountain West, might he have posted All-American numbers? Maybe he benefitted more from having Howard & Rowsey around, but maybe he averages 22/8 and is an All-American as the focal point against lower level competition.

Herman Cain

I think it is safe to say that Sam is maximizing the tools that are available to him at the Big East college level.  His on court performance shows it by both stats and the eye test.

Only time will tell if he can develop the requisite skills for the NBA.  The 3 and D role that seems to be in the NBA vanguard these days appears to be a logical fit.   The G League is the ideal venue for a young man like Sam to hone those skills, as the pace of play is very fast.

In the meantime I am going to thoroughly enjoy his next two season for MU. Once he is healthy we should see another outstanding year of progress.

JJJ put it very well about Sam:
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real chili 83

Quote from: #bansultan on July 25, 2018, 09:54:51 AM
Novak at 6'11" isn't really a good comp.  But yeah he was able to quicken the release.

This isn't on you Sultan...I've stood next to and chatted with Novak. He's the smallest 6'11" guy I've met.

MU82

Quote from: real chili 83 on July 25, 2018, 08:06:38 PM
This isn't on you Sultan...I've stood next to and chatted with Novak. He's the smallest 6'11" guy I've met.

Was gonna say similar.

I'd be very surprised if Novak was more than an inch taller than Sam (if that). Sam also seems to have at least as big a wingspan, and he is certainly more athletic than Novak ever was.
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

IDK. I've stood next to Sam and I've stood next to Novak. I would say Novak has at least 3 inches on Sam. Could be wrong though.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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WarriorFan

Just for fun let's do a Henry comp...

Sam is a better shooter, better passer, better defender, better 3point shooter, better free throw shooter, and better shooting percentage/EFG.

Hank was a better rebounder. 

... and hank went in the first round, pick 18 in what I think was a pretty weak draft.

Sam should do better than that, even next year.
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wadesworld

Quote from: WarriorFan on July 26, 2018, 07:12:14 AM
Just for fun let's do a Henry comp...

Sam is a better shooter, better passer, better defender, better 3point shooter, better free throw shooter, and better shooting percentage/EFG.

Hank was a better rebounder. 

... and hank went in the first round, pick 18 in what I think was a pretty weak draft.

Sam should do better than that, even next year.

Hank was also an 18 year old compared to a 21 year old Sam Hauser.

I am as big of a Sam Hauser fan as there is.  I would give you huge odds that Sam will not be a top 20 pick in the NBA Draft.

brewcity77

Quote from: WarriorFan on July 26, 2018, 07:12:14 AM
Just for fun let's do a Henry comp...

Sam is a better shooter, better passer, better defender, better 3point shooter, better free throw shooter, and better shooting percentage/EFG.

Hank was a better rebounder. 

... and hank went in the first round, pick 18 in what I think was a pretty weak draft.

Sam should do better than that, even next year.

Sam is a better college player, but I think it's hard to sell that Henry wasn't the much better pro prospect. And of those skills, rebounding is the one that typically translates best to the next level. I also think those other skills are ones that are more teachable/refineable, whereas size is not.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: brewcity77 on July 26, 2018, 08:04:43 AM
Sam is a better college player, but I think it's hard to sell that Henry wasn't the much better pro prospect. And of those skills, rebounding is the one that typically translates best to the next level. I also think those other skills are ones that are more teachable/refineable, whereas size is not.

But how do easy rebounds translate?
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