DJ Carton to Ohio State

[Doo]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2786055-5-star-pg-prospect-dj-carton-commits-to-ohio-state-over-michigan-more

[tower912]

Would have preferred he chose Michigan, as they probably would have stopped chasing the Rocket.

[🏀]

How does an Iowa kid end up at OSU under Holtmann?

[GGGG]

How does an Iowa kid end up at OSU under Holtmann?

In this day and age?  Does this really matter anymore?

[Nukem2]

In this day and age?  Does this really matter anymore?

No, but it is rather unusual.

[brewcity77]

How does an Iowa kid end up at OSU under Holtmann?

How does an Arizona kid end up at Marquette under Wojo? How do Minnesota or Michigan kids end up at Marquette under Wojo? Would you be wondering the same had Carton committed here? Is it that different?

[Nukem2]

How does an Arizona kid end up at Marquette under Wojo? How do Minnesota or Michigan kids end up at Marquette under Wojo? Would you be wondering the same had Carton committed here? Is it that different?

Difference here is that Carton is from Big 14 country in Iowa but he was considering 3 Big 14 teams from 2 or 3 states away (OSU, UM and IU).  Huge loss for Iowa.  When was the last time Bucky lost a big name home-state 5 star recruit to a fellow Big 14 member(other than that weird Stone situation).

[brewcity77]

Five-stars anywhere are uncommon, but in recent years there have been a number of kids crossing state lines in the Big 10. Michigan took Jordan Poole from Wisconsin and Zavier Simpson from Ohio. Michigan State got Nick Ward from Ohio and Jaren Jackson from Indiana. Indiana brought in Jerome Hunter from Ohio, Justin Smith from Illinois and Race Thompson from Minnesota. Even Wisconsin brought Reuvers in from Minnesota. Plenty of those kids cross state lines.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

How does an Iowa kid end up at OSU under Holtmann?

I don't think this was necessarily THE reason, but something I have been told about Carton from the beginning is that he is a huge college football fan. Hard to beat Ohio State out when it comes to college football.

[MuMark]

IU and Purdue lost Jaren Jackson to MSU.

Minnesota loses kids to UW all the time.

Iowa lost Utoff to UW before he transferred back.

Indiana lost quite a few kids under Crean ......Illinois loses kids all the time.

Some kids are drawn to the home state school......others not so much.

[Nukem2]

Five-stars anywhere are uncommon, but in recent years there have been a number of kids crossing state lines in the Big 10. Michigan took Jordan Poole from Wisconsin and Zavier Simpson from Ohio. Michigan State got Nick Ward from Ohio and Jaren Jackson from Indiana. Indiana brought in Jerome Hunter from Ohio, Justin Smith from Illinois and Race Thompson from Minnesota. Even Wisconsin brought Reuvers in from Minnesota. Plenty of those kids cross state lines.

Yup, but I noted that Carton was looking 2 or 3 states away in the Big 14.  Your examples are almost all just across the adjacent state line.

[GGGG]

Yup, but I noted that Carton was looking 2 or 3 states away in the Big 14.  Your examples are almost all just across the adjacent state line.

[Nukem2]

 

[brewcity77]

Yup, but I noted that Carton was looking 2 or 3 states away in the Big 14.  Your examples are almost all just across the adjacent state line.

Dude, really? It's the 21st century. We have things like cars, planes, and televisions. We even have the Internet where you can live stream internationally. And you think someone going 400 miles instead of 200 is a big deal? Come on.

[Pakuni]

Yup, but I noted that Carton was looking 2 or 3 states away in the Big 14.  Your examples are almost all just across the adjacent state line.

Let's just say this is a very limiting set of circumstances you've presented here.
Kid has to live in a Big 10 state, but commit to a Big 10 school not in his home state. And not only does that Big 10 school have to be outside his own state, it can't even border his own state. Oh, and he can't be just a good player, but he has to be one of the few five-star recruits that commits to a Big 10 school every year. Also, he can't be named Diamond Stone.

[GGGG]

Let's just say this is a very limiting set of circumstances you've presented here.
Kid has to live in a Big 10 state, but commit to a Big 10 school not in his home state. And not only does that Big 10 school have to be outside his own state, it can't even border his own state. Oh, and he can't be just a good player, but he has to be one of the few five-star recruits that commits to a Big 10 school every year. Also, he can't be named Diamond Stone.

Lol. Exactly. A masterclass in goalpost shifting.

[Mr. Sand-Knit]

How does an Iowa kid end up at OSU under Holtmann?

Tourney bids = top kids

[Ellenson Guerrero]

Honestly, it would have been more surprising if the kid had picked Iowa.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

How does an Iowa kid end up at OSU under Holtmann?

Can't believe anyone would ever want to leave Iowa.

[🏀]

How does an Arizona kid end up at Marquette under Wojo? How do Minnesota or Michigan kids end up at Marquette under Wojo? Would you be wondering the same had Carton committed here? Is it that different?

Stan Johnson, which he had a relationship with.

It's way effing different, Holtmann has been on the job for 13 months. Unless OSU assistants have some relationship with him, I don't obsess over recuiting like you.

[brewcity77]

Stan Johnson, which he had a relationship with.

It's way effing different, Holtmann has been on the job for 13 months. Unless OSU assistants have some relationship with him, I don't obsess over recuiting like you.

The point is kids often leave home to play. For a kid that grew up in Big 10 country, likes college football, and hasn't had any of these schools recruiting him for all that long (Carton's first high major offer was from UW-Madison in June 2017) it doesn't seem that surprising or revolutionary.

[🏀]

The point is kids often leave home to play. For a kid that grew up in Big 10 country, likes college football, and hasn't had any of these schools recruiting him for all that long (Carton's first high major offer was from UW-Madison in June 2017) it doesn't seem that surprising or revolutionary.

Recruit signs with school 400 (?) miles away, with a coach that has only been there for 13 months, and was never really predicted to go there until very late in the process. That better for you?

[GGGG]

Recruit signs with school 400 (?) miles away, with a coach that has only been there for 13 months, and was never really predicted to go there until very late in the process. That better for you?

And this is hardly unheard of.

[🏀]

And this is hardly unheard of.

Examples then. Be sure to nail that 13 month coach with a  top 25, highly recruited player.

[Pakuni]

Examples then. Be sure to nail that 13 month coach with a  top 25, highly recruited player.

Will Wade, hired last year by LSU, landed two 5-star players in the Class of 2018. One is from Orlando (696 miles from Baton Rouge), the other from Roselle, New Jersey (1,351 miles).
One committed to LSU six months after Wade was hired. The other waited 10 months.