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WarriorDad

What is going on on the east side the last 24 hours?  Three transfers and some of their in bound recruits backing out.


https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/uwm/2018/04/23/uw-milwaukees-top-3-players-leaving-basketball-program/542606002/
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Mr. Sand-Knit

Quote from: WarriorDad on April 24, 2018, 12:30:06 AM
What is going on on the east side the last 24 hours?  Three transfers and some of their in bound recruits backing out.


https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/uwm/2018/04/23/uw-milwaukees-top-3-players-leaving-basketball-program/542606002/

Well chicos you surely know the coach, AD, president or quite possibly all three.  Please expound on what the article doesnt already tell us.
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

GGGG

Superbar.

But anyway, the leadership of the athletic department is a mess and I don't think the University cares all that much.  They hired Lavall Jordan instead of Milwaukee native TJ Otzelberger, now Jordan is gone and apparently they have no decent players, while TJO just wrapped up his second tournament appearance at South Dakota State. 

Skip Intro

The three current players transferring out (actually, five total now) is one thing, because they weren't Baldwin's players.  But losing three of the four incoming recruits seems to point to some major issue with Baldwin or another aspect of the program, because they all signed on last fall, while he was already the coach. 

The current players' comments sure do make it sound like it's probably an issue with Baldwin.  Wonder if Todd Townsend will be their HC by this time next year?

TAMU, Knower of Ball

If Baldwin gets canned,  does that help or hurt our chances of getting his kid?
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Nukem2

Quote from: TAMU McEwen on April 24, 2018, 09:14:28 AM
If Baldwin gets canned,  does that help or hurt our chances of getting his kid?
Probably hurt as papa would be hired by a school that would take the kid.

Mr. Sand-Knit

Quote from: Nukem2 on April 24, 2018, 09:26:08 AM
Probably hurt as papa would be hired by a school that would take the kid.

Fire Stan?
Open a spot?
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

brewcity77

Quote from: #bansultan on April 24, 2018, 07:56:51 AM
Superbar.

But anyway, the leadership of the athletic department is a mess and I don't think the University cares all that much.  They hired Lavall Jordan instead of Milwaukee native TJ Otzelberger, now Jordan is gone and apparently they have no decent players, while TJO just wrapped up his second tournament appearance at South Dakota State.

I remember at the time thinking that not grabbing TJO was a huge mistake. Nothing against Jordan, but they had a home run hire who's a local guy. I get why they went the route they did, but think they will regret it in the long run.

The Lens

Quote from: brewcity77 on April 24, 2018, 10:23:28 AM
I remember at the time thinking that not grabbing TJO was a huge mistake. Nothing against Jordan, but they had a home run hire who's a local guy. I get why they went the route they did, but think they will regret it in the long run.

If I was UWM I definitely would have hired TJO.  That being said, there's always been a little bit of Bruce Pearl type smoke around TJ.  Hiring a guy off of John Beilein's staff who also played at Butler is a safe, smart and squeaky clean move.
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mu03eng

Quote from: The Lens on April 24, 2018, 10:39:52 AM
If I was UWM I definitely would have hired TJO.  That being said, there's always been a little bit of Bruce Pearl type smoke around TJ.  Hiring a guy off of John Beilein's staff who also played at Butler is a safe, smart and squeaky clean move.

Yeah but why does a UWM want/need to play it safe? I hate Bruce Pearl but they were relevant with him. This isn't a school with some tremendous legacy they can build off of, if I was them I'd cut as many corners as I could to become relevant.
"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Skip Intro on April 24, 2018, 08:04:29 AM
The three current players transferring out (actually, five total now) is one thing, because they weren't Baldwin's players.  But losing three of the four incoming recruits seems to point to some major issue with Baldwin or another aspect of the program, because they all signed on last fall, while he was already the coach. 

The current players' comments sure do make it sound like it's probably an issue with Baldwin.  Wonder if Todd Townsend will be their HC by this time next year?

sounds like poaching since all said they want to play at the "high major level." More reasons the proposal for immediate eligibility for transfers needs to be defeated.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

GGGG

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 24, 2018, 11:19:12 AM
sounds like poaching since all said they want to play at the "high major level." More reasons the proposal for immediate eligibility for transfers needs to be defeated.

No.  They should be able to play.

wadesworld

Quote from: mu03eng on April 24, 2018, 10:53:11 AM
Yeah but why does a UWM want/need to play it safe? I hate Bruce Pearl but they were relevant with him. This isn't a school with some tremendous legacy they can build off of, if I was them I'd cut as many corners as I could to become relevant.

Because they were cheating with Bruce Pearl and I believe they were ineligible for postseason play for a time because of an APR that was too low.

GGGG

Quote from: wadesworld on April 24, 2018, 11:24:42 AM
Because they were cheating with Bruce Pearl and I believe they were ineligible for postseason play for a time because of an APR that was too low.


That was well into Jeter's tenure.

wadesworld

Quote from: #bansultan on April 24, 2018, 11:26:08 AM

That was well into Jeter's tenure.

Yeah that's what I mean.  I have no idea if they went with Baldwin to help clean up/give the program a clean image, but that would be the reason they felt that need if that's what they were going for.

DCHoopster

Quote from: wadesworld on April 24, 2018, 11:24:42 AM
Because they were cheating with Bruce Pearl and I believe they were ineligible for postseason play for a time because of an APR that was too low.

Proof??

Mr. Nielsen

TJ is white. Lavall Jordan is black. Lena Taylor made it a race thing, when see rushed in on a press conference. Lena Taylor said Amanda Braun was a racist.
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alexius23

Sad implosion. It does matter as UWM is part of this State's basketball 🏀 culture.

GGGG

Quote from: alexius23 on April 24, 2018, 11:37:51 AM
Sad implosion. It does matter as UWM is part of this State's basketball 🏀 culture.



It really doesn't matter.  There are low level D1 schools all over the place that aren't part of their state's culture in any meaningful way.

Mr. Sand-Knit

Quote from: alexius23 on April 24, 2018, 11:37:51 AM
Sad implosion. It does matter as UWM is part of this State's basketball 🏀 culture.

😂😂😂 dumb and funny

Unless it was teal, if teal bravo 👏👏
Political free board, plz leave your clever quips in your clever mind.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on April 24, 2018, 09:30:54 AM
Fire Stan?
Open a spot?

Yes, because once we get Pat Baldwin, Jr., MU won't need to ever recruit another basketball player, and who needs the guys on the roster who are close to Stan anyway?
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

GoldenDieners32

Also a player from Chicago decommited from UWM last week

MuMark

Illinois transfer TeJon Lucas just committed to Milwaukee, he tells @Rivals.

brewcity77

Quote from: MuMark on April 24, 2018, 03:22:15 PM
Illinois transfer TeJon Lucas just committed to Milwaukee, he tells @Rivals.

Maybe their entire roster was afraid of losing minutes?

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: #bansultan on April 24, 2018, 11:23:42 AM
No.  They should be able to play.

sure, after a year. You make a commitment to an institution, who thus makes a commitment to you, you should play your whole career there, and unless you are run off or the coach with whom you signed leaves, you sit.  The power conference schools want the changes so they can poach even more than they are doing now.
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