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Next up: A long offseason

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How do you view the overall state of Marquette's basketball program today?

A -- On the right path, headed for being a strong if not elite program. It's just a matter of time.
B -- Good program with some weaknesses that need to be addressed in the off-season.
C -- Average program for an upper level NCAA school. Needs to improve substantially to become strong if not elite.
D -- Borderline program that has significant deficiencies, including coaching and on-court personnel.
F --  Abject failure. Burn the thing to the ground and start over.

Lennys Tap

#25
Quote from: dgies9156 on April 10, 2018, 03:14:35 PM
Damn straight, though I gave them a "B" and I do think we are headed in the right direction.  ;D

I'm a tough grader, but I show up when I'm in town and watch when I am not.

dg -
Giving the program a "B" for where it is now is not being a tough grader. This Warrior fan will be ecstatic if you're correct!

Herman Cain

Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 10, 2018, 02:20:38 PM
Gail Pudvan, soooo hot. Wanta touch da heine, ahoooo, aina?
Never to late to make your dreams come true.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

D'Lo Brown

Quote from: MU82 on April 10, 2018, 02:46:49 PM
In all seriousness, couldn't this thread/poll have waited until we see what the offseason brings in terms of reinforcements for 2018-19?

If Wojo lands one of the best grad transfer PGs and also a top recruit, I would think folks might be a little more optimistic overall than if we go into next season with the status quo.

Agree. Honestly this is also thoroughly discussed after every loss. I think people were firmly entrenched in their positions about 100 threads ago

bilsu

I would have given Buzz a B his first five years. We were not elite, but we were very good. We had a greater chance of reaching the Sweet 16 under Buzz than we currently have reaching the NCAA tournament.

dgies9156

Quote from: yetipro on April 10, 2018, 05:11:43 PM
Agree. Honestly this is also thoroughly discussed after every loss. I think people were firmly entrenched in their positions about 100 threads ago

Not sure I agree. There's a difference between venting after a loss, particularly after a big loss and views about the direction in which we are headed. One of the reasons why I did this now is to move away from the anger of not getting in the tournament; of losing games we should not have lost; and, asking objectively, what do you really think?

So far, I'm surprised. The "B" grade is by far the leader in the first turn. It's not what I expected given the animus of not making the tournament and of the general "fire Wojo" concerns. My sense is that most folks who are Scoopers rather know the challenges our coach faced when Buzz torched the place. We want that Final Four Chick suggested would make me happy (hint, Chick, it would) but we know Rome was not built in a day.

I'm not clairvoyant but it will be interesting to compare the results this year to any polling on the same subject done a year from now. I'm hoping MU 82 is right and we have that Point Guard who will lead us and we've got an inside presence that's gnarly and unforgiving, I doubt there will be any "D"s or "F"s and a lot more "A"s.


dgies9156

Quote from: The Lens on April 10, 2018, 02:18:27 PM
And Gail Pudvan for head cheerleader!

You guys do realize Gail Pudvan is at least 60 years old?

Yeah, believe it or not. She may even be a grandmother.

Would you want someone saying that about YOUR grandmother?

D'Lo Brown

Quote from: dgies9156 on April 10, 2018, 05:46:40 PM
Not sure I agree. There's a difference between venting after a loss, particularly after a big loss and views about the direction in which we are headed. One of the reasons why I did this now is to move away from the anger of not getting in the tournament; of losing games we should not have lost; and, asking objectively, what do you really think?

So far, I'm surprised. The "B" grade is by far the leader in the first turn. It's not what I expected given the animus of not making the tournament and of the general "fire Wojo" concerns. My sense is that most folks who are Scoopers rather know the challenges our coach faced when Buzz torched the place. We want that Final Four Chick suggested would make me happy (hint, Chick, it would) but we know Rome was not built in a day.

I'm not clairvoyant but it will be interesting to compare the results this year to any polling on the same subject done a year from now. I'm hoping MU 82 is right and we have that Point Guard who will lead us and we've got an inside presence that's gnarly and unforgiving, I doubt there will be any "D"s or "F"s and a lot more "A"s.

There will be D's and F's. Unless you remove those options from the poll, of course (and especially if you include Arby's as an option).

I agree with you on the positivity - I think most of us hold a reasoned, positive outlook with some caveats.

My point was that this is the most thoroughly discussed topic on the board, conversations tend to veer in this direction. That's all.

94Warrior

Quote from: dgies9156 on April 10, 2018, 05:49:58 PM
You guys do realize Gail Pudvan is at least 60 years old?

Yeah, believe it or not. She may even be a grandmother.

Would you want someone saying that about YOUR grandmother?

Pics????

Nukem2

Quote from: 94Warrior on April 10, 2018, 06:39:19 PM
Pics????
Whats really weird is that 4 Ever might be her grandfather (age wise).

4everwarriors

Nukey baby, watt year did ya graduate? And, if you say you woodant due her, yer ether lying or dead, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

real chili 83

Quote from: 94Warrior on April 10, 2018, 06:39:19 PM
Pics????

Funny how Butch Lee's pic comes up when you google Gail.

4everwarriors

Sew duz Purvis Short and Oil Can Boyd, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: dgies9156 on April 10, 2018, 03:18:40 PM
Gee, if we think Arby's is excellent dining, why don't we just take some old blue books, remove the staples and eat them too.

Bet they taste the same as an Arby's Roast beef if you put some Horsey Sauce on them.


willie warrior

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 10, 2018, 04:14:24 PM
dg -
Giving the program a "B" for where it is now is not being a tough grader. This Warrior fan will be ecstatic if you're correct!
Definitely a soft grader.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

Newsdreams

Quote from: real chili 83 on April 10, 2018, 06:49:02 PM
Funny how Butch Lee's pic comes up when you google Gail.
But of course
Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

Herman Cain

Quote from: dgies9156 on April 10, 2018, 05:49:58 PM
You guys do realize Gail Pudvan is at least 60 years old?

Yeah, believe it or not. She may even be a grandmother.

Would you want someone saying that about YOUR grandmother?
Yes. Yes I would.
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

MARQUETTE185

A lot of optimism or delusional?

jaygall31

Quote from: 1SE on April 10, 2018, 03:50:42 PM
This, big difference if we swing and miss on our grad transfer vs. landing our man.

Do you think that determines if we make NCAA or not?
It's not about ME,
It's about US.

Newsdreams

Quote from: jaygall31 on April 12, 2018, 07:06:48 PM
Do you think that determines if we make NCAA or not?
As of what we have right now unless one of the guards take a big step on handles, yes could go from maybe to it would be a disappointment "fire Wojo"
Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

dgies9156

Quote from: MU82 on April 10, 2018, 02:46:49 PM
In all seriousness, couldn't this thread/poll have waited until we see what the offseason brings in terms of reinforcements for 2018-19?

If Wojo lands one of the best grad transfer PGs and also a top recruit, I would think folks might be a little more optimistic overall than if we go into next season with the status quo.

Well, how do you feel now?

Has anyone who gave the program a "C" changed their mind and upgraded to a "B". Likewise, any Bs headed to "A"s?

MU82

Quote from: dgies9156 on April 20, 2018, 08:51:11 PM
Well, how do you feel now?

Has anyone who gave the program a "C" changed their mind and upgraded to a "B". Likewise, any Bs headed to "A"s?

I'm not the best to ask because I never take these polls. I felt the state of the program was good before we got JC. Now I'm feeling all the better about it.

Bullish on Wojo and the Warriors!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

HouWarrior

#46
Quote from: 94Warrior on April 10, 2018, 06:39:19 PM
Pics????
Here is a recent Gail Pudvan Photo....credit:

Facebook page of Tim Gross for:
HS Class of 1975 40th reunion (2015) William Fremd HS Palantine Ill
(nothing tricky here..go to facebook and search Gail Pudvan)
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

🏀

Cell phone holster, tough look.

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

real chili 83

Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 27, 2018, 09:48:51 PM
Yikes,

Out in California....

I'll be impressed if someone gets the music reference.

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