Author Topic: Poll: Which of our 3 frosh has the highest ceiling? (Read 10696 times)

Marcus92 · « **on:** March 21, 2018, 10:12:17 AM »

My vote goes to Cain. His athleticism, length, quickness and instincts helped him lead the team in Stl% as a freshman. I'm interested to see how his offense develops. Think he has all the tools to become a special player.

MUfan12 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 21, 2018, 10:13:40 AM »

*Elliott.

I think Cain has better ball skills than the other two, but I love all of 'em. Those guys get after it.

WayOfTheWarrior · « **Reply #2 on:** March 21, 2018, 10:17:09 AM »

Just hope Greg/Jamal freaking eat some steak, potatoes, and drink a gallon of milk a day. I voted Jamal.

Floorslapper · « **Reply #3 on:** March 21, 2018, 10:20:03 AM »

Cain...and I don't think it is even close (and I am also high on Greg and Theo). Cain can be a star.

connie · « **Reply #4 on:** March 21, 2018, 10:23:50 AM »

Do we have to choose? All three have shown some real flashes. Elliot has been most consistent, Cain seems like he may have more spots he can play, and Theo has the look of being a true force, but just seems so raw. Very much looking forward to all three developing.

Marcus92 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 21, 2018, 10:37:26 AM »

Sorry, don't know how or why I put "Greg Williams" in the poll instead of "Greg Elliott." Fixed now. Connie, you don't have to choose; voting in the poll isn't required. Just meant to be something fun for discussion, and to take everyone's minds off the fact that there is no MU basketball to watch for about 7 months.

tower912 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 21, 2018, 11:03:19 AM »

A tough decision. All showed enough glimpses to generate optimism.

TallTitan34 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 21, 2018, 11:04:26 AM »

Theo's behind the back into an attempted dunk last night.... Can't wait to see him as a senior.

I like the ceiling of all three though.

OhioGoldenEagle · « **Reply #8 on:** March 21, 2018, 11:11:52 AM »

Highest Ceiling or Best Pro Prospects?

I voted Theo because I see he has best path to the NBA, however Jamal probably has the highest ceiling.

Jamal Cain = Jamil Wilson???

TAMU, Knower of Ball · « **Reply #9 on:** March 21, 2018, 11:12:57 AM »

Cain but still love the other two. Theo might have as much potential but he is limited by his position. Today's game just doesnt have a lot of room for superstar centers. Greg I think has the most potential as a lockdown defender

Juan Anderson's Mixtape · « **Reply #10 on:** March 21, 2018, 11:18:27 AM »

1. Cain

Best case: Mikal Bridges
More likely: Jamil Wilson

2. Elliott

Best case: Better shooting Vander Blue
More likely: Trent Lockett in Vander Blue's body

3. John

Best case: Faisal Abraham with bit more offense
More likely: Faisal Abraham

GGGG · « **Reply #11 on:** March 21, 2018, 11:20:20 AM »

Quote from: Lazar's Headband on March 21, 2018, 11:18:27 AM

1. Cain

Best case: Mikal Bridges
More likely: Jamil Wilson

2. Elliott

Best case: Better shooting Vander Blue
More likely: Trent Lockett in Vander Blue's body

3. John

Best case: Faisal Abraham with bit more offense
More likely: Faisal Abraham

This was well done.

Lighthouse 84 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 21, 2018, 11:20:27 AM »

I said it during the EIU game and I've been saying it since. Jamal is going to be good. Real good. He got better over the course of the year and with another summer with Todd in the weight room, the kid is going to be a beast.

Goose · « **Reply #13 on:** March 21, 2018, 11:22:34 AM »

Lazar

For Cain and Elliott those are pretty lofty expectations. I think the most likely predictions are lofty. Hope you are right.

Marcus92 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 21, 2018, 11:33:25 AM »

The one I might disagree with is Faisal Abraham.

In his freshman year, Faisal averaged 1.4 ppg and 1.5 rpg in the Great Midwest Conference. Granted, that was on a team with seniors Damon Key and Jim McIlvane, plus sophomore Amal McCaskill. But Theo surpassed those numbers pretty easily, averaging 3.9 ppg and 2.3 rpg in a much tougher Big East conference.

For his career, Faisal averaged 4.4 ppg and 4.6 rpg. From what I saw this season, Theo's ceiling could be significantly higher.

Mr. Sand-Knit · « **Reply #15 on:** March 21, 2018, 11:39:48 AM »

Faisal was significantly more coordinated than theo

HammerScreen · « **Reply #16 on:** March 21, 2018, 11:40:38 AM »

Excited for all three for sure. I voted Theo - I thought his touch around the rim got a lot better towards the end of the year

Mr. Sand-Knit · « **Reply #17 on:** March 21, 2018, 11:45:35 AM »

My comparison to jamal cain would be chris crawford and not just for the travels and turnovers their freshman seasons. They have/had very similar builds and games. Some will remember chris was extremely athletic too, but not to jamals level. If jamal can grind n commit to the process i think he can folliw the same ascension in his game that Crawford did , which was exponential growth each n every year. I think chris if it were not for the injuries woukd have had an even longer n more successful NBA career, every time he started killing it he gad a major injury.

Fyi i chose greg, love that kids potential.

Pakuni · « **Reply #18 on:** March 21, 2018, 11:49:35 AM »

Quote from: Lazar's Headband on March 21, 2018, 11:18:27 AM

1. Cain

Best case: Mikal Bridges
More likely: Jamil Wilson

2. Elliott

Best case: Better shooting Vander Blue
More likely: Trent Lockett in Vander Blue's body

3. John

Best case: Faisal Abraham with bit more offense
More likely: Faisal Abraham

Agree, though Theo might have a lot more offense than Faisal (who, let's face it, had almost no offensive beyond put-backs and two-footers). Theo has some semblance of a post-up game now, and should only get better over the next three years. Definitely has the potential of being a 10 ppg/8 rpg guy in a couple of years.

GooooMarquette · « **Reply #19 on:** March 21, 2018, 11:57:07 AM »

I like all their ceilings, and think this our most balanced freshman class in a while. IMHO, all will be very good but not superstars - if any of the three ever makes 1st team all Big East, I'd be pleasantly surprised, but not shocked.

I chose Jamal because of his combo of athletic ability, hustle and decent shooting. If he eats enough Beef 'n Cheddars and hits the weight room, he'll have an upset stomach and a very high upside....

lohaus · « **Reply #20 on:** March 21, 2018, 12:28:47 PM »

I picked Jamal for the simple fact he had that monster follow up dunk early in the season. Then he had the game where he nailed a bunch of 3s. Last he was on the top of the zone defense. I like his steals, finishes, and set shooting.

Theo is going to be what he is. . . A true big man. I also love watching Greg play and can't wait to see what he can do with two thumbs on the court.

Silkk the Shaka · « **Reply #21 on:** March 21, 2018, 12:51:42 PM »

Splitting hairs IMO but in order I'd go:

Jamal
Theo
Greg

Aside from the obvious measurables, Cain has a nice shooting touch and two of his KenPom statistical comps are Hollis Thompson & Caleb Martin.

Theo is next on my list for measurables, defensive instincts, intensity, and improved skill set. Also, interestingly one of his statistical comps is Harry Giles, a one & done big from Duke last year.

Greg's fram looks like the least likely to put on weight, and his shot needs the most work. Wild card is if his hand injury prevented his ball handling from being as tight as needed and that healing causes him to drastically improve in that area. That would givie us a long bouncy PG with a good feel for the game. He's a nice passer already and has good defensive instincts.

Lot of upside with these guys and they each made nice contributions right away. Jamal and Greg are young for thier class, so that gives them a higher ceiling too. Excited to see them develop over their careers.

bilsu · « **Reply #22 on:** March 21, 2018, 01:44:53 PM »

Cain easily. I think by the end of next season he will be better than Sam.

tower912 · « **Reply #23 on:** March 21, 2018, 01:48:27 PM »

Only if Sam is slow to recover.

SaveOD238 · « **Reply #24 on:** March 21, 2018, 01:49:17 PM »

Quote from: Lazar's Headband on March 21, 2018, 11:18:27 AM

1. Cain

Best case: Mikal Bridges
More likely: Jamil Wilson

2. Elliott

Best case: Better shooting Vander Blue
More likely: Trent Lockett in Vander Blue's body

3. John

Best case: Faisal Abraham with bit more offense
More likely: Faisal Abraham

Could I deal with a team that had a newer version of Jamil Wilson, Trent Lockett, and Faisal Abraham in their senior years? Yes. Yes I could.

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