MU’s schedule

[jaygall31]

thanks TAMU-----just trying to get a feel for our schedule next year.

[Rick Majerus’ Manager]

Not important enough to give up revenue, get over it.

Give up what revenue ... how much?  22k in the United Center against ND will get a higher price ticket than the new stadium?  Even 40% (and maybe its 50/50, who knows) might be about as much as home game.  ND would get far more playing us at the UC than a buy game at home in front of 9k.

Hold it in December and use it as a opportunity to invite accepted HS seniors, alumni events and the like and for the University as a whole, it is a big winner.

So, given all of this .. explain why this is a bad idea and playing Alabama State in Milwaukee on December 27 is a better idea.

(I'm new here and I get this is an anonymous message board and the convention is insulting/snarky responses like your comment, but I'm respectfully asking for an intelligent counter argument, or set of rule constraints that would make this a bad idea.)

[jsglow]

Give up what revenue ... how much?  22k in the United Center against ND will get a higher price ticket than the new stadium?  Even 40% (and maybe its 50/50, who knows) might be about as much as home game.  ND would get far more playing us at the UC than a buy game at home in front of 9k.

Hold it in December and use it as a opportunity to invite accepted HS seniors, alumni events and the like and for the University as a whole, it is a big winner.

So, given all of this .. explain why this is a bad idea and playing Alabama State in Milwaukee on December 27 is a better idea.

(I'm new here and I get this is an anonymous message board and the convention is insulting/snarky responses like your comment, but I'm respectfully asking for an intelligent counter argument, or set of rule constraints that would make this a bad idea.)

It would be fun and serve a purpose, no doubt.  I do know that MU has wanted to schedule ND but that ND (read that Brey) wants no part of it.

[GGGG]

Give up what revenue ... how much?  22k in the United Center against ND will get a higher price ticket than the new stadium?  Even 40% (and maybe its 50/50, who knows) might be about as much as home game.  ND would get far more playing us at the UC than a buy game at home in front of 9k.

Hold it in December and use it as a opportunity to invite accepted HS seniors, alumni events and the like and for the University as a whole, it is a big winner.

So, given all of this .. explain why this is a bad idea and playing Alabama State in Milwaukee on December 27 is a better idea.

(I'm new here and I get this is an anonymous message board and the convention is insulting/snarky responses like your comment, but I'm respectfully asking for an intelligent counter argument, or set of rule constraints that would make this a bad idea.)

Marquette will make more money playing in the BC against Alabama State. 

Not that your idea doesn't have merit.  As you point out, it has all sorts of other benefits to the University community at large.

You also have to have willing partners however.  And my guess is that renting the UC is a much larger financial commitment than is renting the new Milwaukee arena.

[Rick Majerus’ Manager]

It would be fun and serve a purpose, no doubt.  I do know that MU has wanted to schedule ND but that ND (read that Brey) wants no part of it.

So then do it with Illinois

[brewcity77]

thanks TAMU-----just trying to get a feel for our schedule next year.

Here's what we can currently expect or know:

• Nov 9: Home Opener
• Early November: Two campus NIT Tip-Off games (Teams this year were Monmouth, Fairleigh-Dickinson, UNC-Asheville, & Austin Peay)
• Nov 12-16: Gavitt road game
• Nov 21 & 23: Two of Kansas/Louisville/Tennessee at MSG
• Dec 8: UW-Madison (Likely date)

[Rick Majerus’ Manager]

Marquette will make more money playing in the BC against Alabama State. 

Not that your idea doesn't have merit.  As you point out, it has all sorts of other benefits to the University community at large.

You also have to have willing partners however.  And my guess is that renting the UC is a much larger financial commitment than is renting the new Milwaukee arena.

You might be correct ...

But I read here the BC rent is $25k/game and the new Stadium is $54k/game (I'm assuming this is correct).  Then you have to Pay Alabama State (no idea what that is but I'll guess it is $50k).  So even if the UC is $100k to rent and we are repsonsible for $60k of that cost.  If we get higher ticket prices on 40% of 20k (ND or Illinois would get 20k in attendance) the 8k tickets revenue after costs is 80% to 90% of Alabama State in Milw. in the new stadium.

Now figure in the side benefits and it is a deal for the MU all around.

What seems to be assumed here is the basketball revenue maximized without consideration to benefits for the larger unviersity,  So, no matter what the larger benfits might be, the basketball team automatically picks the higher revenue option.  Is this the case?

[Newsdreams]

You might be correct ...

But I read here the BC rent is $25k/game and the new Stadium is $54k/game (I'm assuming this is correct).  Then you have to Pay Alabama State (no idea what that is but I'll guess it is $50k).  So even if the UC is $100k to rent and we are repsonsible for $60k of that cost.  If we get higher ticket prices on 40% of 20k (ND or Illinois would get 20k in attendance) the 8k tickets revenue after costs is 80% to 90% of Alabama State in Milw. in the new stadium.

Now figure in the side benefits and it is a deal for the MU all around.

What seems to be assumed here is the basketball revenue maximized without consideration to benefits for the larger unviersity,  So, no matter what the larger benfits might be, the basketball team automatically picks the higher revenue option.  Is this the case?

That has been rumored/assumed. Why would we be able to charge higher ticket prices? Can't assume 20K show up. ND does not want to play us. Illinois is not as desirable a game we could be facing 2 Big 10 schools Wisconsin  for sure / maybe Gavitt games until 2022. 

[GGGG]

You might be correct ...

But I read here the BC rent is $25k/game and the new Stadium is $54k/game (I'm assuming this is correct).  Then you have to Pay Alabama State (no idea what that is but I'll guess it is $50k).  So even if the UC is $100k to rent and we are repsonsible for $60k of that cost.  If we get higher ticket prices on 40% of 20k (ND or Illinois would get 20k in attendance) the 8k tickets revenue after costs is 80% to 90% of Alabama State in Milw. in the new stadium.

Now figure in the side benefits and it is a deal for the MU all around.

What seems to be assumed here is the basketball revenue maximized without consideration to benefits for the larger unviersity,  So, no matter what the larger benfits might be, the basketball team automatically picks the higher revenue option.  Is this the case?

Yes.  But I also think the University has to keep in consideration the benefits to the season ticket holder.  They are the most loyal and and highest paying customers.  I don't think the University wants to sacrifice too many home games without keeping them in consideration.

[jsglow]

Sultan hits the nail on the head.  Shorting the season ticket package is a significant part of the issue.

[jesmu84]

Give up what revenue ... how much?  22k in the United Center against ND will get a higher price ticket than the new stadium?  Even 40% (and maybe its 50/50, who knows) might be about as much as home game.  ND would get far more playing us at the UC than a buy game at home in front of 9k.

Hold it in December and use it as a opportunity to invite accepted HS seniors, alumni events and the like and for the University as a whole, it is a big winner.

So, given all of this .. explain why this is a bad idea and playing Alabama State in Milwaukee on December 27 is a better idea.

(I'm new here and I get this is an anonymous message board and the convention is insulting/snarky responses like your comment, but I'm respectfully asking for an intelligent counter argument, or set of rule constraints that would make this a bad idea.)

Why are you pushing this so much?

[herboturbo]

Give up what revenue ... how much?  22k in the United Center against ND will get a higher price ticket than the new stadium?  Even 40% (and maybe its 50/50, who knows) might be about as much as home game.  ND would get far more playing us at the UC than a buy game at home in front of 9k.

I couldn't find the article i remember reading it in, but here is the illini forum talking about how depaul veto'ed a neutral site game in chicago against MU years ago(3rd post down)  https://forums.illinihq.com/topic/13134-nonconference-scheduling/

And thats not to mention the rumor is that Brey won't even consider doing a home and home against us

[Rick Majerus’ Manager]

Why are you pushing this so much?

Smart crowd here and I get good arguments.  Just trying to pull that out of people.

I also know the school is make a concerted effort to recruit Chicago more and a second game in the fall would help in that effort.

Yes.  But I also think the University has to keep in consideration the benefits to the season ticket holder.  They are the most loyal and and highest paying customers.  I don't think the University wants to sacrifice too many home games without keeping them in consideration.

Season ticket holders are going to cry that they are missing December 29 against Cententary?

[Rick Majerus’ Manager]

I couldn't find the article i remember reading it in, but here is the illini forum talking about how depaul veto'ed a neutral site game in chicago against MU years ago(3rd post down)  https://forums.illinihq.com/topic/13134-nonconference-scheduling/

And thats not to mention the rumor is that Brey won't even consider doing a home and home against us

Wow this is really interesting.  Sounds like we tried to do exactly what is being argued here (MU v IL at the UC) about 10 years ago but DePaul excercised their veto.

If true, then the answer is MU wants to indeed play a neutral site game in Chicago but DePaul will not allow it.


This board is great, the breath of people here can dig up an eight year old post on the Illini site that addresses this issue.

Thank you!

[GGGG]

Smart crowd here and I get good arguments.  Just trying to pull that out of people.

I also know the school is make a concerted effort to recruit Chicago more and a second game in the fall would help in that effort.

Season ticket holders are going to cry that they are missing December 29 against Cententary?

Yes.

[warriorchick]

So then do it with Illinois

No one is particularly interested in a Marquette Illinois game.

[rocky_warrior]

New poster here ... really enjoyed the AL games (went to both)

[snip...]

Again, I’m new here so I imagine this has been addressed before.  Can anyone link to that or enlighten?

You're not new here.  Hi Another...most recently known as Tugg.  Goodbye.  Again...

[TallTitan34]

Not that's been announced.

I wonder if we will get a decent opponent (possibly the home and home) to open up the new arena.

[muguru]

I wonder if we will get a decent opponent (possibly the home and home) to open up the new arena.

No...have heard it will be a normal buy game

[jesmu84]

You're not new here.  Hi Another...most recently known as Tugg.  Goodbye.  Again...

I did not see that coming.

In hindsight, should have recognized based on formatting.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

You're not new here.  Hi Another...most recently known as Tugg.  Goodbye.  Again...

[Windyplayer]

No one is particularly interested in a Marquette Illinois game.

Completely disagree. I think everyone who went to MU from the Chicago land area has friends and/or family that went to U of I. That game at the UC would be well attended, I’m sure of it.

[Galway Eagle]

You're not new here.  Hi Another...most recently known as Tugg.  Goodbye.  Again...

Woah he got banned?

[rocky_warrior]

Woah he got banned?

He decided to fight the moderators - and lost.

And I don't mean just for a differing opinion - as he probably believes

Oh, and it wasn't me that banned him the first time. 

He was probably most disappointed it took folks a few weeks to realize that he was gone - and that's only because I mentioned it. 

[Galway Eagle]

He decided to fight the moderators - and lost.

"I fought the law and the law won"