Bubble Watch 2018

[BM1090]

Well, there goes one spot...Louisville will be in...thanks Florida St.

They need to win tomorrow to feel safe. But yeah this doesn't help.

[PGsHeroes32]

Florida State sucks. A lot. And honestly their resume isn't any good either. They have a 1 point home win over UNC and a road win over Florida. That's it.

Team is trash

Like absolutely garbage

[muguru]

They need to win tomorrow to feel safe. But yeah this doesn't help.

I really don't think so...most feel if they win today, they are in.

[PGsHeroes32]

Best part is FSU chokes in the tourney every year

Just leave them out

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Not sure why a Q1 road win should count more than a Q1 home win.  Q1 road win is against a top 70 team or better and a Q1 home win is against a top 30 team or better.  Doubt road Q1 wins are generally more difficult to come by than Q1 home wins.  At least I think that was the whole idea around segregating them that way.

Bottom line is that unless we beat Villanova we leave our fate in the hands of a committee with several teams close enough to us that we don't have a great argument if we get left out, nor do those bubbly teams around us if we get in and they get left out.  Lets hope after this year we take the decision out of the committee's hands for a few years.

The committee chair has blatantly said that road wins are like gold.  The quadrant system underscore that even further.  We can only go off the info we've been provided. 

[BM1090]

I really don't think so...most feel if they win today, they are in.

Who? Where?

[mu03eng]

Fine.  But there are at least a dozen other teams that merit bubble discussion.  All they talk about is ND and Cuse.  It is nauseating.

That's because both have a natural bias. ND pushes views love AND hate, and Syracuse, like Northwestern, has a large alumni contingent at the WWL which they can't help but push the narrative on.

[Windyplayer]

That's because both have a natural bias. ND pushes views love AND hate, and Syracuse, like Northwestern, has a large alumni contingent at the WWL which they can't help but push the narrative on.

Right. Emotion drives content; indifference kills.

[Windyplayer]

Florida State is the perfect example of a team that "bracketologist" have just had in for months, whereas, the committee is going to take a fresh look and I'm not so sure their resume is going to look so great held up to light.

EDIT: to be fair, they have road wins against Va Tech, Louisville, and Florida; and a trophy win against UNC.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Two teams that Bracketmatrix has in but I don't think make it:

St. Mary's

Best Wins
@Gonzaga, New Mexico St, @BYU

Horrible SOS (170)

USC

Best Wins
Middle Tennessee St, New Mexico St, @Utah

Their three best wins all happened before Bennie Boatwright was lost for the season.

Both have good rpi's but pretty empty resumes.  I'd take Marquette over both of them.  I'm growing more optimistic that a win tonight will be enough to squeak into the field.  Too many moving parts to say that definitively though.

[Shark]

Two teams that Bracketmatrix has in but I don't think make it:

St. Mary's

Best Wins
@Gonzaga, New Mexico St, @BYU

Horrible SOS (170)

USC

Best Wins
Middle Tennessee St, New Mexico St, @Utah

Their three best wins all happened before Bennie Boatwright was lost for the season.

Both have good rpi's but pretty empty resumes.  I'd take Marquette over both of them.  I'm growing more optimistic that a win tonight will be enough to squeak into the field.  Too many moving parts to say that definitively though.

I agree if a couple bubble games go our way. Need USC and Cuse to lose their next games.

[wisblue]

At this point I want to see what happens the next two days. If MU wins tonight and loses tomorrow it will be time to look more closely at how MUs team sheet compares to other bubble teams whose seasons have ended.

I know I won't be able to figure out how or why St. Mary's should be in the field unless the Selection Committee blatantly ignores things it says are important like quality wins, quality road wins, and teams putting themselves out there in the non conference games.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

NC State should be safe with wins over UNC, Duke and Clemson, but BC is currently giving them the biz, up 13 in the 1H.

[nyg]

NC State should be safe with wins over UNC, Duke and Clemson, but BC is currently giving them the biz, up 13 in the 1H.

They are safe.  Almost all have the ACC with 8 locks, then add in possibility of Louisville, Cuse and ND.  Louisville might have wrapped up theirs today, so sort of mandatory that ND and Cuse lose tonight. 

[PGsHeroes32]

NC State should be safe with wins over UNC, Duke and Clemson, but BC is currently giving them the biz, up 13 in the 1H.

Another team that isn't very good

Unless they play the tourney at home

[nyg]

Another team that isn't very good

Unless they play the tourney at home

NC State went 21-10, 11-7 in conference, tied with North Carolina, Clemson and Miami.  They are safe. 

[PGsHeroes32]

NC State went 21-10, 11-7 in conference, tied with North Carolina, Clemson and Miami.  They are safe.

Not sure where I said they weren't

Just said they are not good

[skianth16]

Not sure where I said they weren't

Just said they are not good

Their resume is awfully similar to us when you look at the quadrant breakdown. They have a signature win (Duke) which we don't, we have a better SOS (26 vs. 66). Doing a blind resume, they do look more like a bubble team than a lock.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Arizona St down 4 at the half vs Colorado.

[PGsHeroes32]

Their resume is awfully similar to us when you look at the quadrant breakdown. They have a signature win (Duke) which we don't, we have a better SOS (26 vs. 66). Doing a blind resume, they do look more like a bubble team than a lock.

Yup. They take care of business at home tho. We missed some of those big opportunities

But away from home they are very hit or miss.

Like today.

[Oldgym]

NC State loses to Boston College by four.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Arizona State down 7 to Colorado with 6 to go.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Any way to stream this ASU game through the P12 network? 

[MUfan12]

Any way to stream this ASU game through the P12 network?

If you get it through TV provider, log in here- http://pac-12.com/live

[MuMark]

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