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Jockey

Quote from: GooooMarquette on February 14, 2018, 03:34:10 PM
Nobody would have died if everyone in the building was packing heat. They would have pulled out their guns, and the only person to be killed or wounded would be the perp...because that's just how guns would work if we didn't have any of those inconvenient rules.

Except for maybe a dozen or three bystanders what with all of the bullets whizzin' around.

That's all I got to say - it's way too soon.

Vander Blue Man Group

I'm just shocked this has happened again.  Shocked.  How have all those thoughts and prayers not worked?!?

Bump stocks remain legal.  I'm just stunned. 

Again, if nothing changed after a bunch of 6 and 7 years-olds were killed nothing ever will. 

I'm just tired of it.  F*ck the NRA.  And f*ck you if you support that organization. 


#UnleashSean

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 14, 2018, 04:31:57 PM
I'm just shocked this has happened again.  Shocked.  How have all those thoughts and prayers not worked?!?

Bump stocks remain legal.  I'm just stunned. 

Again, if nothing changed after a bunch of 6 and 7 years-olds were killed nothing ever will. 

I'm just tired of it.  F*ck the NRA.  And f*ck you if you support that organization.

Ya it's the nras fault for this. Not the absolutely barbaric and devastating state of our mental healthcare system.

Pakuni

Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on February 14, 2018, 04:35:00 PM
Ya it's the nras fault for this. Not the absolutely barbaric and devastating state of our mental healthcare system.

Crazy thought ... it could be a complex, multi-layered problem requires complex, multi-layered solutions.
But that's hard. And we don't like hard.

In the meantime, a real, actual tweet today from a U.S. senator who apparently has been napping for the past 20 years.

"Just spoke to Broward School Superintendent. Today is that terrible day you pray never comes."

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on February 14, 2018, 04:35:00 PM
Ya it's the nras fault for this. Not the absolutely barbaric and devastating state of our mental healthcare system.

Of course that is also a serious issue that needs to be addressed. 

Galway Eagle

CNN reporting sixteen dead now, suspect is Nicolas Cruz 19yr old former student
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

#UnleashSean

Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on February 14, 2018, 05:10:56 PM
CNN reporting sixteen dead now, suspect is Nicolas Cruz 19yr old former student

I feel horrible for saying this but is this and the sandyhook the only two ones that weren't done by current students?

Galway Eagle

#157
Saying AR-15

For those interested his instagram is f*cked up
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

RJax55

Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on February 14, 2018, 05:17:20 PM
I feel horrible for saying this but is this and the sandyhook the only two ones that weren't done by current students?

Why does that matter?

Galway Eagle

Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

Jay Bee

Some of you folks are sick.

It's cute you think you have an easy answer to nutcases killing innocent people, but man...
The portal is NOT closed.

#UnleashSean

Quote from: RJax55 on February 14, 2018, 05:22:43 PM
Why does that matter?

Because statistics are a thing and statistically most mass shooters commit acts at a place they frequent around the times of the act.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: Jay Bee on February 14, 2018, 05:30:57 PM
Some of you folks are sick.

It's cute you think you have an easy answer to nutcases killing innocent people, but man...

Who said there's an easy answer?

I know what doesn't work - doing jack-sh*t.

#UnleashSean

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 14, 2018, 05:39:50 PM
Who said there's an easy answer?

I know what doesn't work - doing jack-sh*t.

This man's not wrong. For a week (it used to be three... Sigh) we will all talk about this and bicker back and forth with each other about the problem and get stuck at each other's throats. Then we will disappear until another 22 kids die.

Galway Eagle

Armed gaurd? Check

Sent to school therapy then expelled for the safety of other students? Check

School does multiple shooting preparation drills? Check

Any suggestions on what adjustnents you'd all make to help address this issue or minimize casualties? I'm not interested in being called sick by our resident jacka$$ so figured I'd ask
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

nyg

Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on February 14, 2018, 05:43:44 PM
Armed gaurd? Check

Sent to school therapy then expelled for the safety of other students? Check

School does multiple shooting preparation drills? Check

Any suggestions on what adjustnents you'd all make to help address this issue or minimize casualties? I'm not interested in being called sick by our resident jacka$$ so figured I'd ask

Watching local news down here.  FYI Parkland is beautiful place, was voted most safest city in Florida at end of 2017.

Two Police Officers, not armed guards.  They were on duty at that time and shooter still went thru with his plans.
Major mental issues and I heard through a friend, he may have been turned to Islamic trends.
AR-15 is just a terrible weapon and I have seen what damage a .223 round can do to a human body. Just a shame.   

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Jay Bee on February 14, 2018, 05:30:57 PM
Some of you folks are sick.

It's cute you think you have an easy answer to nutcases killing innocent people, but man...
You're right, we should continue to do nothing and just accept this sort of thing as normal.  That's working well so far.  Why change?
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Galway Eagle

#167
Quote from: nyg on February 14, 2018, 05:51:36 PM
Watching local news down here.  FYI Parkland is beautiful place, was voted most safest city in Florida at end of 2017.

Two Police Officers, not armed guards.  They were on duty at that time and shooter still went thru with his plans.
Major mental issues and I heard through a friend, he may have been turned to Islamic trends.
AR-15 is just a terrible weapon and I have seen what damage a .223 round can do to a human body. Just a shame.

Thanks the superintendent was a little unclear he would say squad cars but not say police when asked to clarify so I was confused.

Based on this Instagram post calling Libyans "sand durkahs" I'm not sure if he did turn to Islam.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: nyg on February 14, 2018, 05:51:36 PM
Two Police Officers, not armed guards.  They were on duty at that time and shooter still went thru with his plans.
Must be fake news, rocket informed us this was the way to stop mass shootings. 
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

GB Warrior

Quote from: nyg on February 14, 2018, 05:51:36 PM
Watching local news down here.  FYI Parkland is beautiful place, was voted most safest city in Florida at end of 2017.

Two Police Officers, not armed guards.  They were on duty at that time and shooter still went thru with his plans.
Major mental issues and I heard through a friend, he may have been turned to Islamic trends.
AR-15 is just a terrible weapon and I have seen what damage a .223 round can do to a human body. Just a shame.

That's great, because President Pumpkin needs to be able to avoid focusing on the underlying root causes and blame someone (Radicals! Dems! James Comey!) for it.

nyg

Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on February 14, 2018, 05:56:49 PM
Thanks the superintendent was a little unclear he would say squad cars but not say police when asked to clarify so I was confused.

Based on this Instagram post calling Libyans "sand durkahs" I'm not sure if he did turn to Islam.

Yes, they are called in law enforcement, School Resource Officers", if you ever hear that term again.  They are police officers usually assigned to larger schools or problem schools across the country.

The guy I spoke to stated the Islamic trend is based on people calling in reference his background and they are checking all angles.  But definitely a mental deficiency aspect.

You know, I have stayed away from these guns/law enforcement topics on purpose.  Why are you guys always yelling and screaming and calling each other out for all the time? 

MarquetteDano

Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on February 14, 2018, 05:56:49 PM
Based on this Instagram post calling Libyans "sand durkahs" I'm not sure if he did turn to Islam.

That is a shame because if we have learned anything about our American culture is that if a foreigner, or Islam, or anything other than a typical American is to blame we will do something about it.

If it is your average American who did this absolutely nothing, nada, will meaningfully be done about it.

Vander Blue Man Group

I'll be curious to see how he got the AR-15.

No reason for any civilian to own a weapon like that.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: Jockey on February 14, 2018, 04:29:17 PM
Except for maybe a dozen or three bystanders what with all of the bullets whizzin' around.

That's all I got to say - it's way too soon.

Agree.  My post was implied teal.

tower912

Quote from: Jay Bee on February 14, 2018, 05:30:57 PM
Some of you folks are sick.

It's cute you think you have an easy answer to nutcases killing innocent people, but man...
Arrest them, right?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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